What Most of You Don't Want to Hear - The Truth

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The facts are that no Tennessee coach has gone as long as Phil Fulmer between SEC Titles and not been replaced! Think about that! I know we are all too soft these days to put the old bull out to pasture, but I'm real testosterone-filled man behind this keyboard and am fully prepared to let someone else handle this.

So to all the sunshine pumpers who come one here saying we can just replace the OC, but leave Fulmer and John "Third-and-Chavis" in place, stop deluding yourself.

These two guys have a lot of belly, but no fire in those bellies. Fulmer has no recruits lined up that I personally believe in, and I wouldn't believe in them as players even if they came here and fought every down like their lives depended on it.

Chavis will never coach again after Tennessee fires him, and he certainly won't have a good defense in a major conference.

Sure we were in the SEC Championship Game last year, but how many years before we get back there . . . 3 or 4?

That is the kind of patience this fanbase can't be unfairly asked to exhibit. I mean, I am editing this at a redlight and it has been 37 seconds so far and I am really angry. This morning I had to tell a crossing guard off because she thought some snot-nosed runt's safety was more important than me getting to my job at Subway . . . a little late sure, but most people don't realize we serve breakfast so the owner lets me slide . . .

Anyway, please don't tell me Fulmer is the 3rd winningest coach by percentage in SEC history. Look at what he inherited! A program in its prime.

Anybody on this message board would have been in the NCAA Hall of Fame with that situation. Any kindergartner knows that you just have to put 3 or 4 fullbacks in and play power football and all opposition will run toward its own goal line in cowering fear.

I am sick and tired of waiting for Tennessee to be relevant again!

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It is time to sack Fulmer! We don't have time to worry about who might be out there to replace him! I saw Mike Hamilton once at the next urinal in an Applebee's and I can just tell that he is a winner who will make the right hire!

Somebody else has the money to make this happen today! Fire Fulmer now! And if anybody tries to come into this thread spewing facts and reason, I'll shake my head and call them an idiot.
 
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No their not valid. He deserved to be fired.

Exactly! The guy is useless. 152-52 and only one BCS Championship.

The other cool thing is that Mike Hamilton is a fund-raiser primarily, not a football guy, so he will be able pick someone who really helps us on that front and will represent the University with a modern money-first perspective and make us proud.

Hopefully, it will be someone who never played for UT and has no allegiance to our traditions and how we do things.

Neyland left a lot of bad ideas lying around: Honor, Loyalty, Family. There is no place for that in today's fast-paced world.
 
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I'm impressed...I thought for sure my 32 hour straight post game "ease the pain" bender was a record setter. You must be going on hour number 40 or so. When Elvis appears and says to slow down you should listen to him.
 
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Exactly! The guy is useless. 152-52 and only one BCS Championship.

The other cool thing is that Mike Hamilton is a fund-raiser primarily, not a football guy, so he will be able pick someone who really helps us on that front and will represent the University with a modern money-first perspective and make us proud.

Hopefully, it will be someone who never played for UT and has no allegiance to our traditions and how we do things.

Neyland left a lot of bad ideas lying around: Honor, Loyalty, Family. There is no place for that in today's fast-paced world.

Well then maybe Phil shouldn't have pushed for Hamilton to get the AD job.
 
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Exactly! The guy is useless. 152-52 and only one BCS Championship.

The other cool thing is that Mike Hamilton is a fund-raiser primarily, not a football guy, so he will be able pick someone who really helps us on that front and will represent the University with a modern money-first perspective and make us proud.

Hopefully, it will be someone who never played for UT and has no allegiance to our traditions and how we do things.

Neyland left a lot of bad ideas lying around: Honor, Loyalty, Family. There is no place for that in today's fast-paced world.

Not useless, just needed to go.
 
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Well then maybe Phil shouldn't have pushed for Hamilton to get the AD job.

Exactly, my point, Fulmer is an idiot. The fact that he thought that Hamilton was going to let football coaches worry about football and fundraisers worry about fundraising . . . . that isn't how things work.

If Hamilton is smart he will simply set up a system that allows Volnation to crowdsource the coaching duties.
 
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Well then maybe Phil shouldn't have pushed for Hamilton to get the AD job.

Exactly! Fulmer had too much leverage and pushed for the guy who would give PF raises and extensions. I know Fulmer is well loved by many. I don't hate the guy, but reality is that he would not have had the sucess he enjoyed without David Cutcliffe. CDC was responsible for discipline (remember the Fulmer cup?) and recruiting Peyton Manning. Fulmer took a lot of credit, but I will say he had good coordinators in Cutcliffe and Chavis.
 
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I think it's a poor attempt to say Fulmer shouldn't have been fired.

I think we're supposed to hire him...then fire him? :unsure:...after the redlight? :stop: Damn black market luudes! :blink:
 
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Exactly! Fulmer had too much leverage and pushed for the guy who would give PF raises and extensions. I know Fulmer is well loved by many. I don't hate the guy, but reality is that he would not have had the sucess he enjoyed without David Cutcliffe. CDC was responsible for discipline (remember the Fulmer cup?) and recruiting Peyton Manning. Fulmer took a lot of credit, but I will say he had good coordinators in Cutcliffe and Chavis.

Fire Fulmer. Bring in Cutcliffe.

That could work actually, but we probably need someone with a little more wow factor! Also, the recruits really are not interested in this "discipline" you speak of.

I also fear that Cutcliffe was too loyal to Fulmer, and being an honorable person who just signed a contract at Duke, he probably would not come if asked.

I think our ideal coach would not be encumbered by that type of thinking - you know, someone that would just bolt from all their obligations as soon as their "dream job" came open.

Wonder if there is someone like that out there?
 
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I think it's a poor attempt to say Fulmer shouldn't have been fired.

Pretty much.... while ignoring the fact that the ditch UT has been in over the last 6 years is EXACTLY where Fulmer put the program. You can blame others for not correcting it... but not for causing it.

His recruiting was horrible at the end. If he got talented players, his team discipline was so poor that they were far more likely to be gone before making the two deep than ever contributing in a meaningful way. He left the team with ONE... DT. Not one plus a bunch of guys who weren't SEC level talents. Nope. Just one.

He hadn't been able to recruit OL's or DT's for several cycles.

Both Kiffin and Dooley struggled in part because of the roster Fulmer left. If you blame Dooley for leaving Jones a bad roster then honesty demands that you are honest about the mess Fulmer left in his wake.

As for Chavis, LSU is now mid-pack in scoring and total D after being a perennial top 3 D in the SEC before he arrived. Versus FBS opponents, UT actually ranks higher than LSU in total D, scoring D, yds per play, rushing D, sacks, and INT's.

UT doesn't have more talent on D and the Vols have played a stronger schedule.

I know there's a strong emotional attachment to Chavis but IMO he was always overrated as a DC. Great LB coach. Good at developing talent. But not much help recruiting and weak at playcalling and gameplanning.
 
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