What makes UT attractive?

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I've been here through four actual and a couple pretend coaching searches and have read quite a bit about the things that make UT and attractive place to coach and play and the things that turn off coaches and recruits. It's been a while, and I'm wondering what the consensus is on these issues.

My thoughts and understandings:
Positives
- Competes in the SEC
- Some of the top facilities in the country, with regular improvements being made
- The Grand Cathedral of College Football, Neyland Stadium
- Near several recruiting hot spots, and in state quality is improving
- Quality land grant institution
- Quality local schools (for coach's children)
- Local access to air travel

Negatives
- Seemingly constant University/AD turmoil
- Limited shopping
- Limited nightlife
- Distance to the beach, large city amenities and activities

What's on your list, and what can actually be fixed to make it a more attractive place overall?
 
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AshG said:
I've been here through four actual and a couple pretend coaching searches and have read quite a bit about the things that make UT and attractive place to coach and play and the things that turn off coaches and recruits. It's been a while, and I'm wondering what the consensus is on these issues.

My thoughts and understandings:
Positives
- Competes in the SEC
- Some of the top facilities in the country, with regular improvements being made
- The Grand Cathedral of College Football, Neyland Stadium
- Near several recruiting hot spots, and in state quality is improving
- Quality land grant institution
- Quality local schools (for coach's children)
- Local access to air travel

Negatives
- Seemingly constant University/AD turmoil
- fan expectation for immediate success
- Limited shopping
- Limited nightlife
- Distance to the beach, large city amenities and activities

What's on your list, and what can actually be fixed to make it a more attractive place overall?
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Define immediate success? I think most of us just want to see improvement.
 
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I agree to bad we couldn't have been the one with Black and Gold that would have been sweet. I would have even settled for the Blue and Gray that Memphis has but nope Orange and white WHY!!.
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I've heard someone say it's so you can get out of prison and go straight to the game without changing clothes. I said "or straight from hunting".
 
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AshG said:
I've been here through four actual and a couple pretend coaching searches and have read quite a bit about the things that make UT and attractive place to coach and play and the things that turn off coaches and recruits. It's been a while, and I'm wondering what the consensus is on these issues.

My thoughts and understandings:
Positives
- Competes in the SEC
- Some of the top facilities in the country, with regular improvements being made
- The Grand Cathedral of College Football, Neyland Stadium
- Near several recruiting hot spots, and in state quality is improving
- Quality land grant institution
- Quality local schools (for coach's children)
- Local access to air travel

Negatives
- Seemingly constant University/AD turmoil
- fan expectation for immediate success
- Limited shopping
- Limited nightlife
- Distance to the beach, large city amenities and activities

What's on your list, and what can actually be fixed to make it a more attractive place overall?
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Tuscaloosa, Athens, Baton Rouge, Gainesville are real hot night spots! Shouldn’t be there for the night life anyway. Go to school, practice, watch film, lift weights, go home, church on Sunday and be in bed by 10:30 pm. Repeat. Zero else needed.
 
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AshG said:
I've been here through four actual and a couple pretend coaching searches and have read quite a bit about the things that make UT and attractive place to coach and play and the things that turn off coaches and recruits. It's been a while, and I'm wondering what the consensus is on these issues.

My thoughts and understandings:
Positives
- Competes in the SEC
- Some of the top facilities in the country, with regular improvements being made
- The Grand Cathedral of College Football, Neyland Stadium
- Near several recruiting hot spots, and in state quality is improving
- Quality land grant institution
- Quality local schools (for coach's children)
- Local access to air travel

Negatives
- Seemingly constant University/AD turmoil
- fan expectation for immediate success
- Limited shopping
- Limited nightlife
- Distance to the beach, large city amenities and activities

What's on your list, and what can actually be fixed to make it a more attractive place overall?
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Typical, It is always the fans’ fault post.

So, what would be the difference in Tennessee, Alabama, and Georgia from your assessment? Because I do not see any.
 
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onevol74 said:
Typical, It is always the fans’ fault post.

So, what would be the difference in Tennessee, Alabama, and Georgia from your assessment? Because I do not see any.
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Would it help if I move the one solitary comment about fans down a few? University turmoil is at the top of the negative list for a reason.

And your second paragraph gets at exactly what I'm trying to put my finger on. Of Athens, Knoxville, and Tuscaloosa, I find Knoxville to be a much better choice to live and raise a family. So what is it that isn't working?
 
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AshG said:
I've been here through four actual and a couple pretend coaching searches and have read quite a bit about the things that make UT and attractive place to coach and play and the things that turn off coaches and recruits. It's been a while, and I'm wondering what the consensus is on these issues.

My thoughts and understandings:
Positives
- Competes in the SEC
- Some of the top facilities in the country, with regular improvements being made
- The Grand Cathedral of College Football, Neyland Stadium
- Near several recruiting hot spots, and in state quality is improving
- Quality land grant institution
- Quality local schools (for coach's children)
- Local access to air travel

Negatives
- Seemingly constant University/AD turmoil
- fan expectation for immediate success
- Limited shopping
- Limited nightlife
- Distance to the beach, large city amenities and activities

What's on your list, and what can actually be fixed to make it a more attractive place overall?
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If you think fans for other schools outside of Vanderbilt and Kentucky are less passionate than UT fans, then I don’t know what to tell you. If Georgia fans had endured the crap we have over the last two decades, do you think they would be patiently standing by, quietly observing the turmoil with a golly gee attitude? Quit being naive
 
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I think being a football coach is probably much like other professions. Challenge, opportunity, and reward are the three poles holding the tent up.

Challenge: SEC, check. High expectations, check. Rebuilding requirement, check.

Opportunity: Facilities, check. Winning tradition, check. Rich recruiting grounds within the magical 300 mile range, check. Extreme competition to get to the top past UGa, FL, Bama...well, maybe we put that part with the challenges, heh.

Reward: here's where we've been missing. Must be willing to bet the bank on a proven championship winner. We've never done that. Have always grown our own, whether Neyland from a young captain into the General of the gridiron, or Johnny marching home, or Phillip rising from Johnny's entourage. This go-round, I think we need to spend top dollar rather than finding one at home.
 
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AshG said:
Would it help if I move the one solitary comment about fans down a few? University turmoil is at the top of the negative list for a reason.

And your second paragraph gets at exactly what I'm trying to put my finger on. Of Athens, Knoxville, and Tuscaloosa, I find Knoxville to be a much better choice to live and raise a family. So what is it that isn't working?
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Horrendous coaching and AD hires, the solution to which would be the firing of everyone within the AD and the entire coaching staff. Barring a miracle, it is unlikely that would ever happen
 
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AshG said:
Would it help if I move the one solitary comment about fans down a few? University turmoil is at the top of the negative list for a reason.

And your second paragraph gets at exactly what I'm trying to put my finger on. Of Athens, Knoxville, and Tuscaloosa, I find Knoxville to be a much better choice to live and raise a family. So what is it that isn't working?
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I see the difference in leadership. Tennessee does not have the desire to be an excellent program. Mediocrity is our game.

There is no difference in the fans’ attitude for winning at the leading SEC schools. Only one has to put up with incompetent administrative leadership. I can easily see why our boosters might be hesitant to continue to invest in our mediocre program.
 
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AshG said:
I've been here through four actual and a couple pretend coaching searches and have read quite a bit about the things that make UT and attractive place to coach and play and the things that turn off coaches and recruits. It's been a while, and I'm wondering what the consensus is on these issues.

My thoughts and understandings:
Positives
- Competes in the SEC (positive from a TV point of view and overall exposure)
- Some of the top facilities in the country, with regular improvements being made (a very good thing, but not as big as it used to be. with all the money flying around, everyone has facilities)
- The Grand Cathedral of College Football, Neyland Stadium (no one who isn't a Vol cares in the slightest or is impressed. What they are impressed by is the 100,000 that fill it)
- Near several recruiting hot spots, and in state quality is improving (this is more a negative than a positive. see negative.)
- Quality land grant institution (what? name a kid that picked Tennessee for academic reasons and I'll hang up and listen)
- Quality local schools (for coach's children): (seems like a good place to raise kids, but when you are making 4 mil+ every place is a good place to raise kids)
- Local access to air travel (not a big deal)

Negatives
- Seemingly constant University/AD turmoil (as long as they give me what I need when I ask for it, don't really care. the thing that I disagree with a lot of folks here about is how cheap the school is or that they aren't willing to spend money. They are and have. They're just throwing it at the wrong people)
- fan expectation for immediate success (anywhere where I want to coach has fans with expectations)
- Limited shopping (wife's problem. she'll get it over it with the salary I'm making)
- Limited nightlife (ain't going clubbing at the average age of a head coach)
- Distance to the beach, large city amenities and activities (again, with the money I'm making if the family wants to go somewhere, we're good)
- Competes in the SEC (problem is I'm staring at a schedule with Alabama, Florida and Georgia and that's without looking at the rest of the schedule)
- Recruiting: (While I am near several hotspots, they all are out of state and it's still more work to pull an Alabama kid from Alabama, Georgia kid from Georgia, etc. In addition, the in-state kids are not from East Tennessee and in several cases may as well be out of state recruits)

What's on your list, and what can actually be fixed to make it a more attractive place overall?
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My opinion
 
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AshG said:
I've been here through four actual and a couple pretend coaching searches and have read quite a bit about the things that make UT and attractive place to coach and play and the things that turn off coaches and recruits. It's been a while, and I'm wondering what the consensus is on these issues.

My thoughts and understandings:
Positives
- Competes in the SEC
- Some of the top facilities in the country, with regular improvements being made
- The Grand Cathedral of College Football, Neyland Stadium
- Near several recruiting hot spots, and in state quality is improving
- Quality land grant institution
- Quality local schools (for coach's children)
- Local access to air travel

Negatives
- Seemingly constant University/AD turmoil
- Limited shopping
- Limited nightlife
- Distance to the beach, large city amenities and activities

What's on your list, and what can actually be fixed to make it a more attractive place overall?
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Like any other SEC school....pretty girls.
 
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