What if We Just Throw It?

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I'm not convinced we can't run the ball if we open up the whole playbook. But let's forget that for a moment.

Has anyone noticed that:

1. Tyler Bray has a NFL-strong and pinpoint accurate arm.
2. Our receivers are exceptionally good.

Had we thrown the ball 40 times instead of 25 it would have been embarassing.

Why not pass first, run second?
 
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WiseOlVol said:
I'm not convinced we can't run the ball if we open up the whole playbook. But let's forget that for a moment.

Has anyone noticed that:

1. Tyler Bray has a NFL-strong and pinpoint accurate arm.
2. Our receivers are exceptionally good.

Had we thrown the ball 40 times instead of 25 it would have been embarassing.

Why not pass first, run second?
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Does the Chaney playbook have a "run first" page?

From the last two years we seem to have four running plays: left right off-center, left-right Da'Rick end around.

Certainly we've established with Bray against sub-par competition we should be pass first. I'm not so sure about par competition though, and if there is any part of the playbook I'd like to see opened, it's the running game.
 
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We probably will game plan to pass more against real teams if they are loading up to stop the run. But, against a team like Montana, its good to get the reps for the running game even if it isn't working as well as you would want it to. We are definitely going to need the running game to get on track for us to do well during the rest of the season and this was a great way to get some real practice for our guys.
 
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When we mix it up and do both, the run game will open up.
 
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WiseOlVol said:
I'm not convinced we can't run the ball if we open up the whole playbook. But let's forget that for a moment.

Has anyone noticed that:

1. Tyler Bray has a NFL-strong and pinpoint accurate arm.
2. Our receivers are exceptionally good.

Had we thrown the ball 40 times instead of 25 it would have been embarassing.

Why not pass first, run second?
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We would've had it been a better opponent. Once we got up big, Dooley and Chaney made an emphasis to find something that didn't look good so they could work on it this week in practice.
 
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WiseOlVol said:
I'm not convinced we can't run the ball if we open up the whole playbook. But let's forget that for a moment.

Has anyone noticed that:

1. Tyler Bray has a NFL-strong and pinpoint accurate arm.
2. Our receivers are exceptionally good.

Had we thrown the ball 40 times instead of 25 it would have been embarassing.

Why not pass first, run second?
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Because teams will start defending the pass instead of putting 8-9 men in the box...then you will see a big difference in the passing stats! Will never work...unless we have a 3rd and 4th receiver to step up!
 
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He'll throw it a lot more against Cincinnati, considering their linebackers/secondary are far from being anything special. Their defensive line is pretty solid, though, so I doubt we'll see too much running unless we're able to open up a good amount of holes.
 
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We shall see. The pass run mix will be @ 70/30 soon. They know they need to run, but if you can't, you go to your strenths to win. It's obvious what our strenth is.
I will say, dd's teams will entertain. Fakes, flickers, throwing the ball all over the field. It's exciting to watch for a change. I'm not so sure that defense wins championships anymore. Its a different game.
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We're gonna be one of those teams that uses the pass, to open up the run game. I'm okay with it as long as Bray's under center, and we have the receiver talent that is currently at our disposal. :loco:
 
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utgibbs said:
Does the Chaney playbook have a "run first" page?

From the last two years we seem to have four running plays: left right off-center, left-right Da'Rick end around.

Certainly we've established with Bray against sub-par competition we should be pass first. I'm not so sure about par competition though, and if there is any part of the playbook I'd like to see opened, it's the running game.
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If the O line would have not missed so many blocks, we would have looked alot better, expect an improvement next game, if not, it will be a long year in the SEC.
 
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huntin4bear said:
Because teams will start defending the pass instead of putting 8-9 men in the box...then you will see a big difference in the passing stats! Will never work...unless we have a 3rd and 4th receiver to step up!
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That is what you call using the pass to open up the running game. When they pull back to defend the pass you run the ball. It doesn't mean you keep throwing it every down.
 
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We did try alittle more running plays Saturday! Draws, sweeps, strait up the gut! But its hard to run on any team when they know your going to so it! Once we play a quality team and balance runs with passes the holes will open up! We will be just fine!
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WiseOlVol said:
I'm not convinced we can't run the ball if we open up the whole playbook. But let's forget that for a moment.

Has anyone noticed that:

1. Tyler Bray has a NFL-strong and pinpoint accurate arm.
2. Our receivers are exceptionally good.

Had we thrown the ball 40 times instead of 25 it would have been embarassing.

Why not pass first, run second?
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If you are planning on getting the QB killed this would be an awesome idea.
 
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utgibbs said:
Certainly we've established with Bray against sub-par competition we should be pass first. I'm not so sure about par competition though, and if there is any part of the playbook I'd like to see opened, it's the running game.
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Actually we've already established that he's effective against par competition (SC and NC last year) so I'm not worried.

But to answer the OP's question: No, we shouldn't just throw. We'll never even smell an SEC East crown without a running game.
 
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The NFL and college game has moved away from the old "you must establish the run game" at all costs mentality

it is more pronounced of a change in the NFL where all of your best teams seem to lean more toward the pass than the run

I would be just fine with 60-40 leaning toward pass
 
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utgibbs said:
Does the Chaney playbook have a "run first" page?

From the last two years we seem to have four running plays: left right off-center, left-right Da'Rick end around.

Certainly we've established with Bray against sub-par competition we should be pass first. I'm not so sure about par competition though, and if there is any part of the playbook I'd like to see opened, it's the running game.
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I would too. Being able to run it, and wanting to run it are 2 different things.
 
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interesting article on how important it is to be able to run the ball - basically the ability to pass is way more important than the ability to run in the NFL

this may be different at the college level but I would doubt it - our passing game looking as good as it did is a big deal

Advanced NFL Stats: What Makes Teams Win? 3
 
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Poole seems so tentative. If he would stop holding back, maybe he could be the explosive player everybody wants him to be. He's a good player that needs to be great. Poole, Lane and Neal plus Hunter and Da'Rick all playing at full potential would give us some serious tools.
 
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Escape Goat said:
Im confused.
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I'm not one that believes passing the ball 40 times a game is good for Tyler's health.

Bray took 3 sacks on 24 attempts, Saturday. Our line has great potential, I just don't think they are ready to pass block that much.
 
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Blackburn said:
We probably will game plan to pass more against real teams if they are loading up to stop the run. But, against a team like Montana, its good to get the reps for the running game even if it isn't working as well as you would want it to. We are definitely going to need the running game to get on track for us to do well during the rest of the season and this was a great way to get some real practice for our guys.
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