What does it take to win?

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VolFan4Life87

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I don't mean this game against Alabama (though it certainly applies) but any and all games. In a very simplistic breakdown, IMO, it requires one or all of the following legs up on your opponent.

1) Better football players - No one can deny that to defeat your opponent 9 times out of 10 you need to have better players on the field.

2) Better coaching staff - A team is much like a gun in that it can be a hand cannon or a pea shooter, and neither are worth a crap in the hands of a piss poor shot (coaches).

3) Luck - Football games are won many times on lucky calls, lucky bounces, and one in a million mistakes committed by the opposing team.

Now, which of these does our team possess in comparison to our year in year out opponents (SEC teams).

Dooley & Co are certainly hands down the lesser coaches in this conference. Our roster is not much in comparison to Bama, Florida, LSU, Georgia, etc. Also, while Dooley isn't recruiting poorly, he's NOT out-recruiting these teams. Finally, Dooley is just about the unluckiest guy I've ever had the misfortune of watching coach college football. From injuries to bad calls, the ball just NEVER seems to bounce his way.

Guys, I don't think Dooley is ever going to get it done. Ever
 
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General Neyland's 7 Maxims

1. The team that makes the fewest mistakes will win.

2. Play for and make the breaks and when one comes your way - SCORE.

3. If at first the game - or the breaks - go against you, don't let up... put on more steam.



4. Protect our kickers, our QB, our lead and our ball game.



5. Ball, oskie, cover, block, cut and slice, pursue and gang tackle... for this is the WINNING EDGE.



6. Press the kicking game. Here is where the breaks are made.



7. Carry the fight to our opponent and keep it there for 60 minutes.
 
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IMO here is the bottom line:
It takes discipline, focus, toughness to win the type games we've played in the last several weeks. As a team, we don't have enough of either of these elements to close the deal at the end. We had FL on the ropes, we lost focus on defense and they scored a couple of quick ones to seal the deal. We had the ball with a chance to tie or win against UGA. We fumbled. We had the ball, behind by three, running almost at will, with a great chance to beat MS St. We fumbled. Lack of the three big ones above bit us all three times and I suspect the same thing will happen tomorrow agains Bama. We have a lot of players with those elements I mentioned above, but it takes a team. I feel for those guys in the trenches like Tiny, Stone, James etc who kicked butt all night only to have a skilled player who lacks the discipline to close, ruin it for the team.

Is this coaching? I truly don't know. Dooley says all the right things, but then the results are not shown on the field. To his credit, he has done an excellent job of recruiting under the circumstances. We are a couple of 5 star, early contributors, away from being the team we need to be, provided we can improve on discipline, toughness, and focus. I'm for giving him one more year to show vast improvement and turn it around. I like him and I hope he can do that. JMO.
 
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Haven't you heard? Just "wanting it more" is all it takes. Forget personnel, player packages, talent, routes, play calling, coaching etc.

Show up. Want it more. Win.

That's what I hear anyway. :whistling:
 
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gnm53108 said:
General Neyland's 7 Maxims

1. The team that makes the fewest mistakes will win.

2. Play for and make the breaks and when one comes your way - SCORE.

3. If at first the game - or the breaks - go against you, don't let up... put on more steam.



4. Protect our kickers, our QB, our lead and our ball game.



5. Ball, oskie, cover, block, cut and slice, pursue and gang tackle... for this is the WINNING EDGE.



6. Press the kicking game. Here is where the breaks are made.



7. Carry the fight to our opponent and keep it there for 60 minutes.
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Sums it up. Hard to lose doing the above. Maybe why he won so much. :unsure:
 
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Discipline and focus show up most in the times leading up to the games. In your training and preparation. The game is merely an exhibition of your ability. The ability you have honed and sharpened all of the off season. Saturday's outcome is determined way before Saturday.
 
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VolFan4Life87 said:
I don't mean this game against Alabama (though it certainly applies) but any and all games. In a very simplistic breakdown, IMO, it requires one or all of the following legs up on your opponent.

1) Better football players - No one can deny that to defeat your opponent 9 times out of 10 you need to have better players on the field.

2) Better coaching staff - A team is much like a gun in that it can be a hand cannon or a pea shooter, and neither are worth a crap in the hands of a piss poor shot (coaches).

3) Luck - Football games are won many times on lucky calls, lucky bounces, and one in a million mistakes committed by the opposing team.

Now, which of these does our team possess in comparison to our year in year out opponents (SEC teams).

Dooley & Co are certainly hands down the lesser coaches in this conference. Our roster is not much in comparison to Bama, Florida, LSU, Georgia, etc. Also, while Dooley isn't recruiting poorly, he's NOT out-recruiting these teams. Finally, Dooley is just about the unluckiest guy I've ever had the misfortune of watching coach college football. From injuries to bad calls, the ball just NEVER seems to bounce his way.

Guys, I don't think Dooley is ever going to get it done. Ever
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Luck's a very small factor. If you play the game right, one or two plays really shouldn't dictate the game. It's those close battles that it really gets you. And a lot of times, it's your fault for letting it get that close.

And the most important thing to winning LONG TERM is definitely coaching.
 
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AstonRoyal said:
Luck's a very small factor. If you play the game right, one or two plays really shouldn't dictate the game. It's those close battles that it really gets you. And a lot of times, it's your fault for letting it get that close.

And the most important thing to winning LONG TERM is definitely coaching.
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Finally someone who actually addressed the points made. And the conclusion you arrived at is exactly the one I mean to make. And I don't think Dooley is that coach.
 
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gnm53108 said:
General Neyland's 7 Maxims

1. The team that makes the fewest mistakes will win.

2. Play for and make the breaks and when one comes your way - SCORE.

3. If at first the game - or the breaks - go against you, don't let up... put on more steam.



4. Protect our kickers, our QB, our lead and our ball game.



5. Ball, oskie, cover, block, cut and slice, pursue and gang tackle... for this is the WINNING EDGE.



6. Press the kicking game. Here is where the breaks are made.



7. Carry the fight to our opponent and keep it there for 60 minutes.
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Hard to win doing none of the above.
 
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Luck is involved when building a program nearly all the time. When sustaining one, if you are relying on luck it will not be a strong program for long.
 
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VolFan4Life87 said:
I don't mean this game against Alabama (though it certainly applies) but any and all games. In a very simplistic breakdown, IMO, it requires one or all of the following legs up on your opponent.

1) Better football players - No one can deny that to defeat your opponent 9 times out of 10 you need to have better players on the field.

2) Better coaching staff - A team is much like a gun in that it can be a hand cannon or a pea shooter, and neither are worth a crap in the hands of a piss poor shot (coaches).

3) Luck - Football games are won many times on lucky calls, lucky bounces, and one in a million mistakes committed by the opposing team.

Now, which of these does our team possess in comparison to our year in year out opponents (SEC teams).

Dooley & Co are certainly hands down the lesser coaches in this conference. Our roster is not much in comparison to Bama, Florida, LSU, Georgia, etc. Also, while Dooley isn't recruiting poorly, he's NOT out-recruiting these teams. Finally, Dooley is just about the unluckiest guy I've ever had the misfortune of watching coach college football. From injuries to bad calls, the ball just NEVER seems to bounce his way.

Guys, I don't think Dooley is ever going to get it done. Ever
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Under Dooley....it is always something with Tennessee.

Better athletes...obviously that is key. But when you face a team that has just as much talent or slightly more athleticism than your players you better be able to out scheme or coach the other side line.

For example....Stanford under Harbaugh...USC had superior athletes but Stanford reflected their HC on the field and made dog fights out of those Carroll/Harbaugh meetings.
 
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Other than against Kentucky it is usually better players on the other sideline. And a few of the best coaches money can buy. Right now he has neither. We got what we paid for and now we have to roll with it or buy better. What we gone do?
Edit: In response to DMV two posts up.
 
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Winning against Bama will take an incredibly high intensity level for 60 minutes and a trust among our players, especially on defense. This, along with leadership from Bray and a solid running game will take down the bubbas.
 
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To win in the SEC you must have great athletes on both sides of the ball. Another poster made the comment that UT has had top 25 recruiting clases consistently and most everyone will agree. The Very best teams in the SEC such as Alabama, LSU, SC, Florida, Georgia, Auburn (I know Auburn's down this year) all have Top recruiting classes as they have out recruited Tennessee the last few years. I understand coaching is a large factor in the process of developing the recruits but 1st the recruits must be great athletes. Tennessee simply doesn't have the caliber of athletes across the board that the Top SEC teams have.....plain and simple!
We must somehow recruit better talent and then coach them up.... and this is not happening currently.
 
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PimpVol said:
Discipline and focus show up most in the times leading up to the games. In your training and preparation. The game is merely an exhibition of your ability. The ability you have honed and sharpened all of the off season. Saturday's outcome is determined way before Saturday.
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Don't necessarily agree. You have to carry that discipline, focus and toughness for the 60 minutes of the game.
 
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