What Dave Hart needs to do when he meets with Dooley

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Our new AD needs to sit down with our coach and restructure this contract. We have leverage. If Dooley ever wants to be a head coach he needs to succeed at UT. If he doesn't, he's sitting in the booth announcing C-USA games for the rest of his life.

Dooley gets a new 2-year contract. 3 million dollar buyout after 1 year. Pay remains the same, but the incentives are going to be restructured.

This would be relatively quiet and gives us a better position after a year. If the state of the program has improved, we're good with Dooley and we can kick into a better contract that would be getting renegotiated anyways.
 
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Why don't we just fire Dooley like all the negavols want. That way all our recruits will go else where. Some of the players on this roster will transfer. And we can go through all this for anouther 4 years. They when that coach has to rebuild us again we can get rid of him because he couldn't win either.
 
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Dave Hart should hire you as his personal mentor since you have knowledge of running a major college athletic department and drawing up serious contractual agreements.
 
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madbamahater said:
Dave Hart should hire you as his personal mentor since you have knowledge of running a major college athletic department and drawing up serious contractual agreements.
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Jimmy Sexton rolled all over Hamilton for the last 3 hires and we're still paying for it. Time to fix the Hamilton era.
 
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Wii60 said:
Our new AD needs to sit down with our coach and restructure this contract. We have leverage. If Dooley ever wants to be a head coach he needs to succeed at UT. If he doesn't, he's sitting in the booth announcing C-USA games for the rest of his life.

Dooley gets a new 2-year contract. 3 million dollar buyout after 1 year. Pay remains the same, but the incentives are going to be restructured.

This would be relatively quiet and gives us a better position after a year. If the state of the program has improved, we're good with Dooley and we can kick into a better contract that would be getting renegotiated anyways.
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You do understand Dooley would have to agree to that, right? There's no way in Hell that happens. None.
 
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rickyyrs said:
Why don't we just fire Dooley like all the negavols want. That way all our recruits will go else where. Some of the players on this roster will transfer. And we can go through all this for anouther 4 years. They when that coach has to rebuild us again we can get rid of him because he couldn't win either.
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That's a BS argument.

So we lost all our recruits when Fulmer left? Kiffin finished with a top 10 class.

Worse than when Kiffin bailed right before NSD? We still pulled in a top 15 class.

Has it hurt Michigan? They're currently #1 on Scout. By that argument, OSU shouldn't have hired CUM.

If the current players cared, they'd have made an effort yesterday. Right now, many of them definitively do not care. If Hart hires the right guy, then not only will the right guys stay, but we'll also get the right players in here in the future.

There is no blaming yesterday on youth or anything else other than a poorly coached team playing badly. Dooley has to go. Otherwise another year is wasted in trying to pull this program out of the dregs.
 
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LawVol13 said:
You do understand Dooley would have to agree to that, right? There's no way in Hell that happens. None.
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I think we have a little more leverage than people give us credit for. If Dooley fails here, he's effectively done.
 
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Wii60 said:
I think we have a little more leverage than people give us credit for. If Dooley fails here, he's effectively done.
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It doesn't matter if we have leverage. He's under contract. Why in the Hell would he agree to less job security than he already currently has when he doesn't have to? If they went to Dooley with this, he'd laugh at them. It's preposterous.
 
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LawVol13 said:
It doesn't matter if we have leverage. He's under contract. Why in the Hell would he agree to less job security than he already currently has when he doesn't have to? If they went to Dooley with this, he'd laugh at them. It's preposterous.
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Because its either the end of your professional coaching career or another chance.
 
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rickyyrs said:
Why don't we just fire Dooley like all the negavols want. That way all our recruits will go else where. Some of the players on this roster will transfer. And we can go through all this for anouther 4 years. They when that coach has to rebuild us again we can get rid of him because he couldn't win either.
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Alabama fired coaches for years before they got smart and dropped the cash for Saban. How many mediocre coaches did they let have a try before they realized that? I hope Hart doesn't follow that road of just settling for mediocrity!
 
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Wii60 said:
I didn't take his whole buyout away, just knocked it down to 3 from 5.
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Again, under what possible scenario would Dooley, whose seat is currently on fire, would agree to change his buyout from $5 million to $3 million? What person would ever, ever even consider that? And, if so, what could possibly be their motivation? "I like less job security and in the event I get fired, which looks likely at this point, I'd like $2 million less in buyout money." Come on, man.
 
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LawVol13 said:
Again, under what possible scenario would Dooley, whose seat is currently on fire, would agree to change his buyout from $5 million to $3 million? What person would ever, ever even consider that? And, if so, what could possibly be their motivation? "I like less job security and in the event I get fired, which looks likely at this point, I'd like $2 million less in buyout money." Come on, man.
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Yes I agree! Enter Chris Berman "Come ON, MAN"!!!!!!!!!:)
 
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LawVol13 said:
Again, under what possible scenario would Dooley, whose seat is currently on fire, would agree to change his buyout from $5 million to $3 million? What person would ever, ever even consider that? And, if so, what could possibly be their motivation? "I like less job security and in the event I get fired, which looks likely at this point, I'd like $2 million less in buyout money." Come on, man.
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Dooley wasn't truly in the hot seat until he lost to Kentucky. Now he kind of is. He has performed poorly for two years and is getting paid too much. He is getting security in 3 million in buyout + one year of salary and the possibily of a career vs upfront 5 million and nothing more for the rest of his life.
 
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huskyvol said:
Alabama fired coaches for years before they got smart and dropped the cash for Saban. How many mediocre coaches did they let have a try before they realized that? I hope Hart doesn't follow that road of just settling for mediocrity!
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Who are you suggesting we throw 5 million a year at? You?
 
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He needs to tell him 9 wins or your out of here!!dont settle for anyting less.let him know whats on the line.it dont work move on.quit being tight with the money and go get a big name coach and pay the money!
 
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madbamahater said:
Who are you suggesting we throw 5 million a year at? You?
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No! You since all you do is bash people all the time! Get over your self man! I said Alabama went through how many mid level coaches before they hired Saban. I just don't want that to be what happens at UT!
 
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Wii60 said:
Dooley wasn't truly in the hot seat until he lost to Kentucky. Now he kind of is. He has performed poorly for two years and is getting paid too much. He is getting security in 3 million in buyout + one year of salary and the possibily of a career vs upfront 5 million and nothing more for the rest of his life.
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Look, that's not going to happen. It'd be absurd.
 
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