What are the chances of Butch retaining Shoop next year?

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I know this has been talked about before but what do you think are the chances of Butch keeping Shoop for the next couple of years? He's a very intelligent DC who knows how to do his job and he will make a great HC one day. Question is, when will he take that next step? I know it's still early in the season but hopefully Butch gives him a nice raise cause so far, he's been worth every penny. I'd also hate to go through another position change next year. Thoughts?
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
I know this has been talked about before but what do you think are the chances of Butch keeping Shoop for the next couple of years? He's a very intelligent DC who knows how to do his job and he will make a great HC one day. Question is, when will he take that next step? I know it's still early in the season but hopefully Butch gives him a nice raise cause so far, he's been worth every penny. I'd also hate to go through another position change next year. Thoughts?
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He is under contract
 
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I'd say we get 3 years out of Shoop. Most schools are looking for offensive minded head coaches.
 
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believe he'll be around another couple years...after that...he probably gone...somebody will come calling with an offer he can't refuse...:thumbsup:

GO VOLS!
 
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Break out the garbage truck and dump a huge pile of money on his lawn. He's an amazing DC and we need to do whatever it takes to keep him.
 
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I hope it doesent come down to that.

He literally just checked off the biggest challenge according to his boss, Butch Jones.
 
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Does he own any property in East Tennessee? I guess it's too late to marry a UT cheerleader.
 
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We don't know how good he is just yet. Our defense is in the upper-middle pack of the country right now. However, the defense has played better while under pressure which is a huge difference from last year. I'd like to see them put a complete game together, though.

I say he will be here for a couple years at least. He has been a head coach before and it didn't go so well.
 
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So let's worry about the "what ifs" instead of enjoying the ride we're on! SMH Why is so hard for many fans to enjoy the good... instead of creating/worrying about "the bad" that's not even an issue right now?
 
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I would be surprised if hes here past another year. Someone is gonna drop about 4 mil a year on him to teach players how to run around on a field. If we are 10-2 or better after this year with a top 25 D, then if the right program calls hes gone as well.
 
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Very good for next year. And who knows beyond that?

I don't think he will be a candidate for a Power 5 HC job after one year at UT. He'd need to take a pay cut to take a lower level HC job.

Beyond that, as the pay improves for coordinators it is likely that more of them will choose a different career path. If I were an UGA fan, there would already be a few things about Smart that would make me feel uneasy. Muschamp was once one of the hottest names because of his success as a coordinator.

Maybe Shoop's dream is to be an HC. Maybe he'll take the plunge when the time comes. Or maybe... he'll be more like Chavis and a few others who don't want the HC job.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
I know this has been talked about before but what do you think are the chances of Butch keeping Shoop for the next couple of years? He's a very intelligent DC who knows how to do his job and he will make a great HC one day. Question is, when will he take that next step? I know it's still early in the season but hopefully Butch gives him a nice raise cause so far, he's been worth every penny. I'd also hate to go through another position change next year. Thoughts?
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Shoop is suppose to be the real deal. If we had been talking about him maybe being overrated during halftime Saturday, I might not have argued with you, But he got us through without Kirkland, Reeves-Maybin, and Sutton, and making less trusted backup players like Jumper, McDowell, and Moseley look like solid players.

You do everything you can to keep a DC who can do that happy. So, unless there is a major falling out later in the season, the odds of Butch trying to retain Shoop is high. That is taking your topic line at face value.

As to Shoop taking a HC spot, who knows? Most assume he wants that, but there are plenty of career coordinators who have never wanted a HC job, or have been a HC and it didn't work out. Then, there is the David Cutcliffes who do well the second time around.

No way I can know Shoop's mindset. He and I don't frequent the same Waffle Houses. But as of today, and based on the last 30 minutes I have seen of his work, I am damn glad we have him, and hope that doesn't change for awhile.
 
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white65 said:
I would be surprised if hes here past another year. Someone is gonna drop about 4 mil a year on him to teach players how to run around on a field. If we are 10-2 or better after this year with a top 25 D, then if the right program calls hes gone as well.
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The questions will be: Does he want to be a HC badly enough to take a pay cut and go to a lower level? Will the number of Power 5 openings be large enough that he might get an opportunity somewhere like UK? Would he actually take a chance on a program like UK knowing that it could just as easily end his career as an HC as launch it?
 
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TNnative said:
Shoop is suppose to be the real deal. If we had been talking about him maybe being overrated during halftime Saturday, I might not have argued with you, But he got us through without Kirkland, Reeves-Maybin, and Sutton, and making less trusted backup players like Jumper, McDowell, and Moseley look like solid players.

You do everything you can to keep a DC who can do that happy. So, unless there is a major falling out later in the season, the odds of Butch trying to retain Shoop is high. That is taking your topic line at face value.

As to Shoop taking a HC spot, who knows? Most assume he wants that, but there are plenty of career coordinators who have never wanted a HC job, or have been a HC and it didn't work out. Then, there is the David Cutcliffes who do well the second time around.

No way I can know Shoop's mindset. He and I don't frequent the same Waffle Houses. But as of today, and based on the last 30 minutes I have seen of his work, I am damn glad we have him, and hope that doesn't change for awhile.
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Just to add to one portion of your post, I'm pretty sure Shoop has been a HC before.
 
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With the recruits, the opportunities, and the lifestyle he is offered here, it would take a monumental paycheck to make him leave. He dropped everything to be a part of this program. People WANT to be here right now. You can thank stone cold Jones for that next time you see him.
 
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Did he flame out pretty hard the last time he was a HC? I was under the assumption he didn't want to be a HC anymore??
 
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I think his family also loves being in TN. Seems like I remember reading that they wanted to stay in the state if at all possible.
 
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The_Big_Orange said:
Did he flame out pretty hard the last time he was a HC? I was under the assumption he didn't want to be a HC anymore??
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He was the HC at Columbia University (FCS Ivy League) from 2003-2005 and was fired after compiling a 7-23 record there.
 
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1truevol said:
So let's worry about the "what ifs" instead of enjoying the ride we're on! SMH Why is so hard for many fans to enjoy the good... instead of creating/worrying about "the bad" that's not even an issue right now?
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Maybe because this is a message board and people like to discuss things.
 
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