weekend in review....a moratorium

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jakez4ut

jakez4ut

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Well, i think we all saw the Bama game and have hashed that out enough, i'll make my comments short on this.

i think if there was ever a game that it was more apparent, i don't remember it, but CPF was out coached from start to finish Saturday. it was painfully obvious from the onset that CNS had his team prepared, despite not honoring the tradition of this game. Apparently you don't have to spend all week talking about games of the past, glory years, the Bear, the General and "manhood being discovered on the Third Saturday of October" to get a team ready for this game.

in a very contrasting style, CNS coached and called this game to win. CPF coached and called this game not to lose. in an era when "a punt isn't a bad play", this game may have played out differently. in this era where games are more like chess matches than boxing matches, it is evident to me that we don't have any chess players.

i have a considerable amount of apathy toward the rest of the season, and that simply sucks. 100-37 UF/UA over TN will do that to a guy i guess.

the rest of the SEC:
Poor, poor SC.......lose to VAndy at home with destiny in your hands. good for you that TN and KY lost, cause if you still win out, you're in. so you got that going for you....what you don't.......offense. need to find some for the remaining schedule, and i just don't know why the rotating qb's from SOS....you don't have DW and TD on the sidelines anymore...pick one and stick with it.

KY/FL...better game than i gave KY credit for. it's obvious that KY is a good football team and for KY fans, there are such things as moral victories. you need help for the East, but in reality, you have had and you will wind up with a fine outcome to your season. Sr. day in Lexington never seemed so daunting in football season. as for FL, the defense is starting to show signs of life as the season wears on, and also signs of youth. this group will be good in the near future, very good. offensively, i think FL is just very difficult to defend. you really don't know what's coming with them. it'd be interesting to see how they'd react to being down by 14pts or more in the 2nd half late. I think Tebow is finding out what all the hub bub is about with SEC Defenses. for hte first time all year, he looked visibly in pain during a game. as tough as he is, he's taken a pounding this year. but even with that, he's still lowering it, stiff arming and getting 5 YPC. FL can still lose another game, they're not indestructable, but i don't see anyone left on the schedule that i would be "scared" of if i were a FL fan. for all intents and purposes, FL has punched their ticket to ATL.

LSU/Auburn....what a game. Auburn has found themselves now and look to be a team to be reckoned with. they will now be forced to root for Bama in two weeks to beat LSU, but even if that doesnt' happen, Tommy T has done a nice job of turning this team around. LSU....starting to show some chinks in the armour. the d is still good. the O is still good. but one wonders how many more lives CLM has with these gutsy play calls......can't live on that forever. but as has most LSU/AUB games, this one just adds to the mystique in this series...hard hitting, fast, defense and big plays.......worth every minute of watching.

Ole Miss/ARK......didn't see this game, but judging from the final score, all i can say is Ark is better than ole miss. Good Hire by UofM obviously. Coach O has done wonders. talk about AD's that should be on the hot seat.......

elsewhere:
Cal...poor cal. you lost to a team in SoCal just not the So Cal. a pre-cursor to future events? probably. 3 losses here we come.

OK....found a way to win. that's what good teams do. the march to the Big 12 continues......Hey Bob, i hear there's some good real estate deals to be had in East TN...interested?:)

KS.....big win for the jayhawks.....do we think this team is good or not yet? we're going to find out...they play A&M, Ok. St. and Missou down the stretch.

NE/A&M. oh bill calahan.......picked the wrong game to lose.

FSU/Miami.....did they play this weekend?:p i watched some of it, but it was a pretty ugly ball game, turnovers, penalties, and the score, imo, is misleading as to how entertaing this game really was. but I think Miami at least proved it's the team that is the closest to being back on the rise.....FSU, like TN, is stale, stagnate and just very, very average.

and finally.....ND/USC.......just wow. ND is that bad. the good news, they wont' lose this weekend. Off weeks will do that for a team. i guess you can take that momentum in to the stretch run which includes AF, Navy, Duke and Stanford. and they won't win all of those games.

so, that's about it from a pretty bad sports weekend for TN fans everywhere. hope we all recover ok and tune in to the SOS vs. CPF game Saturday night in Knoxville. and please, no chants of "fire CPF" and for God's sakes, no paper bags. as Ron Burgandy would say.....stay classy knoxville.:thumbsup:
 
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jakez4ut said:
elsewhere:
Cal...poor cal. you lost to a team in SoCal just not the So Cal. a pre-cursor to future events? probably. 3 losses here we come.
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3 losses mean we beat either ASU or USC and don't choke away a different game the rest of the season. I don't see it happening. Hat was right about Cal.
 
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Amen to the comment on lack of chess players... lack of coaching seemed pretty apparent as well.
 
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droski said:
3 losses mean we beat either ASU or USC and don't choke away a different game the rest of the season. I don't see it happening. Hat was right about Cal.
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yep....Cal kind of reminds me of TN from like 93-96....you knew they were pretty good, but for some reason, they just can't put it all together for a whole season.
 
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You would think that everyone would have the fire in their belly and bring the "A" game...most especially the coaches (two of which have actually played the game against bama)

Tradition aside, wanting to beat bama should be instinctive. I have never seen such a milktoast attitude from the coaches.
 
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Plano Vol said:
You would think that everyone would have the fire in their belly and bring the "A" game...most especially the coaches (two of which have actually played the game against bama)

Tradition aside, wanting to beat bama should be instinctive. I have never seen such a milktoast attitude from the coaches.
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unfortunately, i've seen this before. we saw it in the 80's and early 90's against Bama, and we saw it throughout the 90's against FL.

i dont' know why, but we get real tight sometimes for these big games, and fall flat. do we put to much pressure on ourselves? do we put too much in to one or two games a year? i don't know the answers to that.

all i do know, is the team and game plan that showed up ready for GA was absent against Bama. two completely different games. we coached and called that GA game to win it, period. there was no doubt.

in the Bama game, we were tight, and as the game unraveled before our eyes, we got tighter and tighter.

so, yeah, it's happened plenty in the past. but this was the first time in a while that i saw it in such glaring fashion.
 
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I don't know what the business with Hardesty is all about but there is a tale to be told there. The coaches lack of aggression on a couple of the fourth down calls, play calling in general, etc. It's pretty bad when I think I could have done a better job coaching the team.
 
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Plano Vol said:
I don't know what the business with Hardesty is all about but there is a tale to be told there. The coaches lack of aggression on a couple of the fourth down calls, play calling in general, etc. It's pretty bad when I think I could have done a better job coaching the team.
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well the good news is you probably couldn't.

however, we could get a number of people to coach TN to 7, 8 or 9 wins a year for a lot less than 2 mil a year.

as for the hardesty thing, apparently they were surprised he didn't play too.:thumbsup:
 
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droski said:
3 losses mean we beat either ASU or USC and don't choke away a different game the rest of the season. I don't see it happening. Hat was right about Cal.
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Another thing is i just don't think anyone associated with Cal saw losses to UCLA or Or. St. coming.

it's almost as if you got past Ore and put it on cruise control until the SC game.

the season is a marathon, not a sprint, and unfortunatley for Cal, they haven't figured that out yet.
 
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actualy, as much as i hate to say it, I just think that cal was exposed as not that good. Our guys were up for oregon state and ucla. And yes, two plays go our way and we are currently undefeated (and yes longshore was injured for both games), but great teams don't put the other team in the situation. we have plenty of talent, but something is missing in the chemistry department. and our head coach and defensive coordinator have no balls. :)
 
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i didn't see either game, so i'll defer to your judgement.

plus looking back on it, it's hard now to look at Cal's win over TN and say that was all that big of a deal now.

turns out that was just another game that they probably should have won.
 
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jakez4ut said:
i didn't see either game, so i'll defer to your judgement.

plus looking back on it, it's hard now to look at Cal's win over TN and say that was all that big of a deal now.

turns out that was just another game that they probably should have won.
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let's just say that being out coached by karl dorrell can kind of shatter you belief in a coaching staff.
 
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we know all about being out coached.....in fact, we may have the market cornered in that respect.
 
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droski said:
let's just say that being out coached by karl dorrell can kind of shatter you belief in a coaching staff.
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Getting outcoached by almost every one on your schedule, not named Mark Richt, can pretty much have that same effect.
 
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what really depresses me is one of your first points Jake, we were as throughly outcoached as I have ever seen.
 
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orange+white=heaven said:
Callahan is the real venture capitalist in this year's market...
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yeah, you got me there......and i meant what i said above....he really picked the wrong time and wrong game to lose..........

and really......you take a look at TN, FSU and Nebraska...and are there three other programs that are more disappointing over the last few years?

and if you're a neb or FSU fan, it's not like you're in a couple of juggernauts for conferences.....

dare i say, at least we're in the SEC where the competition is just a little better week in and week out?
 
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jakez4ut said:
yeah, you got me there......and i meant what i said above....he really picked the wrong time and wrong game to lose..........

and really......you take a look at TN, FSU and Nebraska...and are there three other programs that are more disappointing over the last few years?

and if you're a neb or FSU fan, it's not like you're in a couple of juggernauts for conferences.....

dare i say, at least we're in the SEC where the competition is just a little better week in and week out?
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Lexy gets the most prescient, and succinct, quote of the day.
What we have is now... "a very factual problem."

Every aspect of this argument boils down to one simple truth. Well, two.... It's time, and It's evident.
 
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oh i agree........i guess there's still a part of me that wants it not to be as bad as i really know it is.
 
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lots of big time programs potentially looking for new coaches this year. someone is going to get the short end of the stick here.
 
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Me, I just wish we could skip past all the coming days of debate,rumor threads, opinion polls, press commentaries, short lists, airplane flight plan watching, ink is dry moments...

and move straight to the announcement of the next...TCHFCAUTK.....:)
 
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well, if it really is a consideration this year, i'll go back to what i said about this time last year when UNC hired Butch Davis and canned John Bunting....timing is everything....and you look around and see a program like Nebraska that is all but going to make a change. then there's the potential at A&M, Michigan, Florida State and Tennessee......and timing becomes very important as all of those schools likely have some similar candidates on their list.

if you are going to do it and you think you can get your guy....may want to go ahead and do it.

cause if there are that many high profile jobs open at the end of they year, i'd hate to get left out in the cold.
 
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Timing will impact recuiting as well. I can't imagine much worse than an announcement that Fulmer will retire at the end of '08. It seems it would effectively kill '07's recruiting unless there was an obvious heir apparent in the wings.

Breaking up is hard to do.....
 
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