We could see more of William Wright

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unfrozencvmanvol said:
If you look at the 247 team talent composite (which last I looked went back to 2015), we have consistently from 2015 to now been typically rated as having between the 15th and 20th most talented rosters in CFB, all but 1 year or 2 where we nosed slightly above that or fell slightly below that. Heupel had a strong class last year but other than that it is not true that Heupel has had more talent than Butch and Pruitt but rather that Heupel gets more out of his players than Butch or Pruitt did.

In any event, you're missing the point, I am not saying that we INTENTIONALLY try to obtain a roster full of 3 stars but rather that now more than ever character and a desire to play at Tennessee matter. We are better off getting a 3 star with those qualities than a talented, high maintenance, distracting problem like Boo.
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For sure, but fans that provide negative value add to the program not only over value their talent evaluation skills, but their own self worth. Humility is a terrible thing to waste. They can’t even spell it, even when they post ad nauseam. Arrogance is rarely a virtue.
 
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Freak said:
From Hubbs on SportsTalk. Good to see a guy like this getting more opportunities.

Well, I mean, you know, he's a good story. He's done a good job. You go back to 2022 and he's been a factor. I mean, listen, nobody's celebrating the Boo Carter news, but that's news. Boo Carter is the reality is Boo Carter was one of the 11 most talented defensive players on this roster. And that's a guy. He's a guy that Tennessee this time last year, heading into December and roster retention time, put a lot of stock in and a lot of belief in that he would really elevate his game from year one to year two. I mean, when you think about where they were December 1st last year, you're sitting there looking at Ricky Gibson, Jermod McCoy and Boo Carter, and you were going to basically build a lot of your defense around that, particularly in the back seven and obviously the secondary specifically, and you haven't really played with any of the three this year. Because Boo Carter has just been a non-factor and McCoy has not played, Ricky Gibson has not played, so it's a story. But there are plenty of great stories on this team and all those good stories should be celebrated. I love William Wright. I love everything he does. When given an opportunity, he gives you everything you have and he's made plays. Has he given up plays? I'm some, but everybody does. I mean, he wants to be here, and those are the guys that you want to have, and that you need to be a part of. Now, all of a sudden, with Boo Carter's departure, William Wright's role could potentially grow, whether it's as a nickelback or whether he plays cornered, you've slid Colton Hood inside, depending on what that would look like behind Jalen McMurray. So he's a big part, and he's obviously one of the most liked and beloved guys on this team by his teammates.

Here's a good article on him talking about his interception against New Mexico State.

www.utdailybeacon.com

William Wright ‘taking advantage of every opportunity’ for Tennessee football

The college football landscape has evolved over the last six years.
www.utdailybeacon.com www.utdailybeacon.com
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after trying to read that, are we sure Hubbs wasn't having a stroke?
 
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casual-observer said:
Yeah, I don't know that I would agree with "Way behind" either.

CJH has used roster management to pull Tennessee out of the muck and mire. A few notable's he's picked up from the roster:

Hendon Hooker
Bru McCoy
JaVonta Payton
Gabe Judy-Lally
Jermod McCoy
Kamal Hadden
Amari Jefferson
Wendell Moe Jr.
Joe Milton III
Dont'e Thorton Jr.
John Campbell Jr.
Javontez Spraggins
Gerald Mincey
Omarr Norman-Lott
Chris Brazzell II
Lance Heard
Holden Staes
Start Thomas
Joey Aguliar
Sam Pendleton

This list is not nothing.
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CJH and staff have been absolutely masterful in the portal and now landing top10 HS classes as well. We have a much better hit rate in the portal than other programs. Including the best season ever by a UT qb in Hooker, a slew of NFL WRs including this year again with Brazzle, Joey Upgrade spotted and becoming a MUCH better QB than Nico ever was for us etc.

The opposite view is so backward. We can make an easier and better case that this staff has failed to develop highly rated HS players into SEC starters than to say they fail at roster management/portal. We have struggled to develop HS kids into starting QBs and Starting Oline players under this staff. Theres some truth to that...but this staff has proven repeatedly that we can grab several starters and put them in the NFL from the portal every season WHILE being very selective and not adding many players overall as transfers each year.

Some people look for any means to rip our coaches. We are very lucky to have this staff. Ask the 14 or so FBS schools searching desperately right now...including 4 SEC schools so far.
 
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marcusluvsvols said:
CJH and staff have been absolutely masterful in the portal and now landing top10 HS classes as well. We have a much better hit rate in the portal than other programs. Including the best season ever by a UT qb in Hooker, a slew of NFL WRs including this year again with Brazzle, Joey Upgrade spotted and becoming a MUCH better QB than Nico ever was for us etc.

The opposite view is so backward. We can make an easier and better case that this staff has failed to develop highly rated HS players into SEC starters than to say they fail at roster management/portal. We have struggled to develop HS kids into starting QBs and Starting Oline players under this staff. Theres some truth to that...but this staff has proven repeatedly that we can grab several starters and put them in the NFL from the portal every season WHILE being very selective and not adding many players overall as transfers each year.

Some people look for any means to rip our coaches. We are very lucky to have this staff. Ask the 14 or so FBS schools searching desperately right now...including 4 SEC schools so far.
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Nice observation and I agree. Has been better picking up portal talent vs developing players.

Do you think this because: he is not good at developing young players or he's not good at selecting young players?
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
If you look at the 247 team talent composite (which last I looked went back to 2015), we have consistently from 2015 to now been typically rated as having between the 15th and 20th most talented rosters in CFB, all but 1 year or 2 where we nosed slightly above that or fell slightly below that. Heupel had a strong class last year but other than that it is not true that Heupel has had more talent than Butch and Pruitt but rather that Heupel gets more out of his players than Butch or Pruitt did.

In any event, you're missing the point, I am not saying that we INTENTIONALLY try to obtain a roster full of 3 stars but rather that now more than ever character and a desire to play at Tennessee matter. We are better off getting a 3 star with those qualities than a talented, high maintenance, distracting problem like Boo.
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The only coach I can think of (without pouring through the stats) that is doing more with less would be Curt Cignitti at Indiana.
 
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Clad in Big Orange said:
In the NIL era, the most successful programs are going to be the ones that are the very best at roster management. So far, Heupel is way behind in this regard.
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I hate to spend money on things beyond players, but there is a strong argument to get a GM to handle NIL and roster management.
 
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TikiVol said:
I hate to spend money on things beyond players, but there is a strong argument to get a GM to handle NIL and roster management.
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I haven’t had time to do this, but it would be interesting to see the programs who have a GM or roster manager versus the ones who do not
 
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unfrozencvmanvol said:
Certainly, we should try to get blue chip guys who have good character and want to be here also, I'm just saying, even in the WORST case scenario, if you could get only 3 stars, if those guys wanted to be here and played as a team, you wouldn't be any worse off than you are with a bunch of locker room:

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I totally agree. Star gazing hasn’t bode well for Tennessee football. I think it’s a symptom of societal decline. Hard work and sacrifice has been replaced by entitlement. The fans and coaches coddle these 4and 5 star players giving them the sense that they don’t really have to work for anything . It creates a culture of laziness and apathy and is counterproductive to what needs to be present for a good team and that is teamwork. Without teamwork a whole squad of 5 stars won’t win diddly! Watch the movie the Replacements to understand!
 
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casual-observer said:
Yeah, I don't know that I would agree with "Way behind" either.

CJH has used roster management to pull Tennessee out of the muck and mire. A few notable's he's picked up from the roster:

Hendon Hooker
Bru McCoy
JaVonta Payton
Gabe Judy-Lally
Jermod McCoy
Kamal Hadden
Amari Jefferson
Wendell Moe Jr.
Joe Milton III
Dont'e Thorton Jr.
John Campbell Jr.
Javontez Spraggins
Gerald Mincey
Omarr Norman-Lott
Chris Brazzell II
Lance Heard
Holden Staes
Start Thomas
Joey Aguliar
Sam Pendleton

This list is not nothing.
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Some dudes on that list
 
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casual-observer said:
Yeah, I don't know that I would agree with "Way behind" either.

CJH has used roster management to pull Tennessee out of the muck and mire. A few notable's he's picked up from the roster:

Hendon Hooker
Bru McCoy
JaVonta Payton
Gabe Judy-Lally
Jermod McCoy
Kamal Hadden
Amari Jefferson
Wendell Moe Jr.
Joe Milton III
Dont'e Thorton Jr.
John Campbell Jr.
Javontez Spraggins
Gerald Mincey
Omarr Norman-Lott
Chris Brazzell II
Lance Heard
Holden Staes
Start Thomas
Joey Aguliar
Sam Pendleton

This list is not nothing.
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They’ve done well in certain areas, but RB and Safety should not be this bad in year 5. They are at Dooley levels right now. We kind of lucked into Aguilar or QB would be in about the same boat.

Really did a good job upgrading at corner (prior to injuries) in the portal. Obviously have brought in a zillion portal OL.
 
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