We basically OWN the Gator's "Fab 4" ...

[cotton]

Yeah, Michigan really proved they deserved a chance for the National Championship this year. As for Auburn, they pretty much admitted they weren't expecting to win it all when they scheduled Citadel. Then, they took all that anger about being left out of the championship game and used it to barely beat a not-so-great Virginia Tech team. Had USC played Auburn, the Tigers would have lost by 21.

As for it working by accident, that is the most illogical thing I have ever heard.

IIRC, Auburn scheduled the citadel because someone else dropped off of their schedule, and Auburn's SOS was higher than USC's. Also, Auburn dominated the Sugar Bowl that year until late scores by the Hokies made the game seem closer than it actually was. By the way, what was your prediction for the Texas/USC title game?

All of that, however, is beside the point. When an undefeated team from the SEC is left out of the title game, you are left with a system that does no better job a crowning a "true champion" than any other flawed system we have had before.

Cotton kinda implied it, but I may have taken that out of context. There are, however, quite a few posters on here that like to brag about his/her "own" playoff solution.

That was the point of my post and was said somewhat tongue-in-cheak; however, the current system isn't better than anything, except, perhaps, at guaranteeing Notre Dame and a Mid-Major a big payday.

 

[kptvol]

IIRC, Auburn scheduled the citadel because someone else dropped off of their schedule, and Auburn's SOS was higher than USC's. Also, Auburn dominated the Sugar Bowl that year until late scores by the Hokies made the game seem closer than it actually was. By the way, what was your prediction for the Texas/USC title game?

All of that, however, is beside the point. When an undefeated team from the SEC is left out of the title game, you are left with a system that does no better job a crowning a "true champion" than any other flawed system we have had before.

Wrong. Had it not been for the BCS, none of the big 3 that year would have played each other. Auburn, USC, and Oklahoma all would have beat up on some inferior opponent, which would have made crowning a champ all but impossible. Regardless, USC absolutely murdered an excellent team full of NFL talent. Auburn managed to beat a VT team by less than USC did.

As for the USC-Texas game, I predicted a Texas win. Vince Young is one of the best college players this century.

 

[cotton]

Wrong. Had it not been for the BCS, none of the big 3 that year would have played each other. Auburn, USC, and Oklahoma all would have beat up on some inferior opponent, which would have made crowning a champ all but impossible. Regardless, USC absolutely murdered an excellent team full of NFL talent. Auburn managed to beat a VT team by less than USC did.

As for the USC-Texas game, I predicted a Texas win. Vince Young is one of the best college players this century.

Putting 2 of the 3 undefeated teams in the country against each other still made crowning a champ all but impossible. It is as easy to choose between 3 undefeated teams as it is to choose between two, both of which coming off of a victory over an undefeated or 1-loss team from a major conference.

As for Texas, good for you; you were overwhelmingly in the minority.

 

[kptvol]

Putting 2 of the 3 undefeated teams in the country against each other still made crowning a champ all but impossible. It is as easy to choose between 3 undefeated teams as it is to choose between two, both of which coming off of a victory over an undefeated or 1-loss team from a major conference.

As for Texas, good for you; you were overwhelmingly in the minority.

Virginia Tech had two losses. One of them was to NC State. What a powerhouse. The fact is that USC beat them by 11 when their offense was still out of sync and struggling to find a way to keep going without Keary Colbert and Mike Williams. Auburn beat them by only 3, just after an unimpressive performance against UT.

 

[cotton]

Virginia Tech had two losses. One of them was to NC State. What a powerhouse. The fact is that USC beat them by 11 when their offense was still out of sync and struggling to find a way to keep going without Keary Colbert and Mike Williams. Auburn beat them by only 3, just after an unimpressive performance against UT.

Does that mean leaving an undefeated SEC team out of the title mix was right? Does it mean the system worked? I'm not so sure that just because Oklahoma got rolled by 5 touchdowns against USC means that Auburn didn't belong in the game, or that just because USC beat a team by a touchdown more than Auburn means the Trojans are clearly superior.

The BCS is no better than a system that would put AP #1 vs #2, and that isn't a system at all.

 

[kptvol]

Does that mean leaving an undefeated SEC team out of the title mix was right? Does it mean the system worked? I'm not so sure that just because Oklahoma got rolled by 5 touchdowns against USC means that Auburn didn't belong in the game, or that just because USC beat a team by a touchdown more than Auburn means the Trojans are clearly superior.

The BCS is no better than a system that would put AP #1 vs #2, and that isn't a system at all.

The only year I have any problem with in the BCS era is the year USC and LSU shared the title. Auburn knew that out of conference scheduling is an important factor in the BCS. They chose to schedule crap. They had a strong hand in determining their future.

I imagine they were fearful of such competition after the raping they received from USC the year prior.

 

[cotton]

The only year I have any problem with in the BCS era is the year USC and LSU shared the title. Auburn knew that out of conference scheduling is an important factor in the BCS. They chose to schedule crap. They had a strong hand in determining their future.

I imagine they were fearful of such competition after the raping they received from USC the year prior.

So now last year's results have a bearing on this year's championship? And why does OOC schueduling count towards your team's credibility, but conference wins don't?

If you like the BCS system, I'm not going to change your mind. I do think, however, that a system that, as admitted by a proponent, works less than 90% of the time, could be improved.

 

[kptvol]

So now last year's results have a bearing on this year's championship? And why does OOC schueduling count towards your team's credibility, but conference wins don't?

If you like the BCS system, I'm not going to change your mind. I do think, however, that a system that, as admitted by a proponent, works less than 90% of the time, could be improved.

Last year's results don't mean much, but I'm that was the last time I recall Auburn scheduling an OOC opponent worth a crap. The Auburn administration understood what they were doing by scheduling patsies. They were hoping they could add a few wins to get to a better bowl at the end of the season. They weren't planning on making a run at the BCS. If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. Auburn didn't make an effort to even play the best. I don't feel sorry for them.

 

[cotton]

Last year's results don't mean much, but I'm that was the last time I recall Auburn scheduling an OOC opponent worth a crap. The Auburn administration understood what they were doing by scheduling patsies. They were hoping they could add a few wins to get to a better bowl at the end of the season. They weren't planning on making a run at the BCS. If you want to be the best, you have to beat the best. Auburn didn't make an effort to even play the best. I don't feel sorry for them.

I don't feel sorry for them either; in fact, the list is very short of teams I for which I have less sympathy.

That doesn't mean a 13-0 team coming out of the SEC without a shot at the national title didn't get the shaft.

 

[kptvol]

I don't feel sorry for them either; in fact, the list is very short of teams I for which I have less sympathy.

That doesn't mean a 13-0 team coming out of the SEC without a shot at the national title didn't get the shaft.

Although an Auburn fan would never admit it, I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't just glad they can hang their hat on that undefeated season and play the injustice card. I'd say quite a few of them prefer the way things worked out to having to face USC again.