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#76
I must admit this is a beautiful thing to see VN rising in medical prognosticating and physiology design abilities....maybe its like a crime prediction percentage spreadsheet...percentages say we haven't had an armed robbery in 4.3 weeks in zone Alpha in the Charlie precinct...STAKE OUT TIME!!!! While sabermetrics are fun and seemingly useful it may just be more entertaining to guess/argue/pontificate about said injuries and the cause/effect ratio on the fly. Surely it sharpens out court room skills...
 
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Behr said:
How do you say it one way but pronounce it another? I no unnerstandz.

I don't know. As a kid I always thought it was Nana nana. I see Nanner Nanner around here though.

Type it or say it however you want, Ill know what it means.
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I got 5 year olds breathing down my neck critiquing every word and action.

The boy twin wanted me to tell him what the middle finger means. I told him he would have to learn that from somebody else. I did tell him it was rude and crude. He asked if it started with an “A” then asked if it started with a “S” or a “B”. I was glad that he ran out of letters to ask about.
 
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Iam4utalways said:
I got 5 year olds breathing down my neck critiquing every word and action.

The boy twin wanted me to tell him what the middle finger means. I told him he would have to learn that from somebody else. I did tell him it was rude and crude. He asked if it started with an “A” then asked if it started with a “S” or a “B”. I was glad that he ran out of letters to ask about.
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I taught our daughters the common curse words and what the bird finger means (all the way back to the folk tales about Agincourt) when they were like 6 or 7 years old.

Figured they were gonna start hearing and seeing things from the other kids, so should be armed with knowledge so they could tell when kids were being bad.

Not the sexually oriented words, but the common ones: h***, d***, a**, s***, b****, and b******. Like that.

Did it over dinner one evening. My wife, daughter of a Baptist preacher, was looking at me like I'd come down with leprosy.

But it worked out well. To this day, the young ladies are well and cleanly spoken, and credit the information I gave them with knowing which kids to avoid in school.

My wife still thinks I'm nuts. :)
 
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Iam4utalways said:
That’s fair.
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#87
#87
njvols said:
How are we gonna let the other 100K fans in the stands know. Maybe bring back Bobby Denton announcement... Please pay these prices and Woo no more!
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That's a great idea. We can supplement with a couple of "knock it off'ers" in each section.

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I've said it, Boca has said it and many many others way smarter than Boca have said it...woo ain't going nowhere.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
No.

Not a single person has denied that.

What I and others deny is that you have a clue. What we know is that you're guessing. Because neither you nor anyone else have done the analysis it would take to find and understand patterns among all the injuries.
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So you admit what I said is true... but then declare I don't have a clue. Yeah. That's a strong case you have there.

You're just making a wild guess, which may be right or may be utterly wrong. You simply don't know.
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Nope. Educated speculation based on what CAN contribute and what CAN be different from one coach to another.

I listed possibilities. Good ones. You are the one who has tried to demand that I say more than I KNOW... and then accused me of being wrong in general because I don't "know" the specific cause of each injury.

I can say with near absolute CERTAINTY... that it isn't just "bad luck".

But by all means continue to make a fool of yourself burning your strawman.
 
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sjt18 said:
So you admit what I said is true... but then declare I don't have a clue. Yeah. That's a strong case you have there.

Nope. Educated speculation based on what CAN contribute and what CAN be different from one coach to another.

I listed possibilities. Good ones. You are the one who has tried to demand that I say more than I KNOW... and then accused me of being wrong in general because I don't "know" the specific cause of each injury.

I can say with near absolute CERTAINTY... that it isn't just "bad luck".

But by all means continue to make a fool of yourself burning your strawman.
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Lol. Haven't you noticed how you keep falling over yourself reminding us all how smart you are? Yea, he's making a fool of himself. Haha.
 
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VFL-82-JP said:
Heh, you didn't "find" me, I walked right into the thread and pointed out you're not wearing any clothes. :)

So here's the challenge: get a list of the injuries for either the '16 or '17 season (or both, that'd be awesome).

Start with the first injury. Gather any reports you can find telling what happened. All the Ws: where (practice field? locker room? weight room? dorm room?) ... when (spring camp? off-season? fall camp? in season practice? during a game?) ... what (twisted ankle? knee? shoulder? concussion?) ... why and how?

That last part, that's the most important, though all the other Ws help to isolate on it. How did it happen, and why? Was it lack of fitness? poor execution of a football move the player should have known how to do better? impact with another player? if so, under what conditions? freak accident, like planting your foot and your knee trying to bend backwards from the way it should (think of Chubb)?

And on, and on.

Once you've figured out THE proximate cause of that injury, once you have it categorized, good job. Now start on the second one on the list.

Go all the way through the season's injuries. Once you've done that, find the patterns. Was there any one factor that popped up frequently? Two or more common themes?

Only after you've done that analysis will you know (not guess, know) why the Vols suffered so much more than our "fair share" those two years.

Until then, you have no clothes on. Pardon me for letting you know. You have no clothes on.



p.s. The "how and why" part will go MUCH better if you have training in medicine or sports physiology. Getting down to the proximate cause is tough enough with in-depth training; sometimes near impossible for us laymen.
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If I were CJP I would start with agility drills designed to help players not fall face first on helmets and then you know work up from there :)
 
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I suspect that the essence of JP’s argument could be boiled down, in a legal context, as warning against “[assumption] of facts not in evidence.” Regardless of how sound the logical premises of an argument or how high its probability of accuracy may be in an abstract sense, educated speculation does not truly rise to the level of fact- or statistical-based analysis.

To illustrate this point from another angle, one of the most insightful and germane observations I ever heard was uttered by a Wildlife and Fisheries scientist at UT. He stated that, “When you get your Bachelor’s Degree, you think you know everything. If you obtain a Master’s Degree, you realize that you don’t know as much as you thought you did. If you persevere and complete a Doctorate, you’ll eventually realize that you really don’t know very much at all.”

Despite the seemingly paradoxical nature of his comments, he was correct. It has everything to do with the transformative nature of the educational process and the perspective gained through further education, both in terms of realizing the limitations of your own knowledge and the ability to ask more and more questions for which you don’t have answers.
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
I suspect that the essence of JP’s argument could be boiled down, in a legal context, as warning against “[assumption] of facts not in evidence.” Regardless of how sound the logical premises of an argument or how high its probability of accuracy may be in an abstract sense, educated speculation does not truly rise to the level of fact- or statistical-based analysis.

To illustrate this point from another angle, one of the most insightful and germane observations I ever heard was uttered by a Wildlife and Fisheries scientist at UT. He stated that, “When you get your Bachelor’s Degree, you think you know everything. If you obtain a Master’s Degree, you realize that you don’t know as much as you thought you did. If you persevere and complete a Doctorate, you’ll eventually realize that you really don’t know very much at all.”

Despite the seemingly paradoxical nature of his comments, he was correct. It has everything to do with the transformative nature of the educational process and the perspective gained through further education, both in terms of realizing the limitations of your own knowledge and the ability to ask more and more questions for which you don’t have answers.
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Yeah, Rex. :)

This is how the certainty of youth gives way to the wisdom of old age. You just gotta learn by experience how much you really don't know. :hi:
 
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...in college football in terms of starts lost due to injury and suspension during the 2017 season.

"In his 2018 college football preview magazine, one of the stats Steele includes every year is starts lost due to injury and/or suspension.

According to Steele, over the previous 11 seasons, there have been 160 teams that have lost 34 or more starts due to injury/suspension and had nine or fewer wins for the season. Of those 160 teams, 90 have improved their win total (56.3%) the following season while 19 have had the same record (11.9%) the following season.

Tennessee led the nation in this category in 2017 with 58 starts lost due to injury or suspension. Florida ranked third in the nation and second among Power 5 programs with 49 starts lost. South Carolina ranked eighth overall on his list with 42 starts lost while Kentucky ranked 15th in the nation with 37 lost starts."

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Injury-bitten: Tennessee led nation in starts lost due to injury/suspension
 
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