Watching Last Year's OU-A&M Game On ESPNU...

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hatvol96

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I have finally realized exactly why I so detest Fulmer. Seeing Stoops go for it on 4th and inches on his own 29 leading 17-16 with a minute and change to go brought it into focus. Stoops, Carroll, Rodriguez, etc. are willing to toss the book out the window and risk being skewered. It shows a confidence in their players that is infectuous and breeds success. Fulmer and his ilk would rather play by some archaic dogma which shields them from criticism. Make the safe play. That way, it's never your fault.
 
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hatvol96 said:
I have finally realized exactly why I so detest Fulmer. Seeing Stoops go for it on 4th and inches on his own 29 leading 17-16 with a minute and change to go brought it into focus. Stoops, Carroll, Rodriguez, etc. are willing to toss the book out the window and risk being skewered. It shows a confidence in their players that is infectuous and breeds success. Fulmer and his ilk would rather play by some archaic dogma which shields them from criticism. Make the safe play. That way, it's never your fault.
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My biggest ilk is hearing, "He's just not ready to play yet. He has tremendous ability, but until he learns the offense, I'm just not ready to play him just yet."
 
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Jasongivm6 said:
My biggest ilk is hearing, "He's just not ready to play yet. He has tremendous ability, but until he learns the offense, I'm just not ready to play him just yet."
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You mean like playing Mark Levine in front of Jamal Lewis?
 
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I have always said Fulmer is too conservative and wont go outside the box, that would be an interesting stat to see, how many times he went for it.
 
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I've always said Fulmer coaches not to lose instead of coaching to win. It drives me crazy that our team has no killer instinct.
 
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I agree, hat.

Another thing I don't like is when he says things like "There isn't a Robert Meachem or Arron Sears out there."

You know what? There never will be! Let these players make their own names? I feel it's a little unfair and puts some extra pressure on the players.
 
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hatvol96 said:
I have finally realized exactly why I so detest Fulmer. Seeing Stoops go for it on 4th and inches on his own 29 leading 17-16 with a minute and change to go brought it into focus. Stoops, Carroll, Rodriguez, etc. are willing to toss the book out the window and risk being skewered. It shows a confidence in their players that is infectuous and breeds success. Fulmer and his ilk would rather play by some archaic dogma which shields them from criticism. Make the safe play. That way, it's never your fault.
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bold move by stoops and i wouldn't disagree with it. on the other hand, if fulmer makes the call to punt in that situation, that's a smart decision. in a 17-16 game, chances are you're defense is playing well, so turn it back over to them and let them win the game. just play you're normal defense and stay out of the prevent. i'm not a fulmerite but he doesn't deserve criticism for this.
 
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volsgal03 said:
I have always said Fulmer is too conservative and wont go outside the box, that would be an interesting stat to see, how many times he went for it.
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the stats of how many times wouldn't tell the story. many factors go in to those type decisions. how you o-line and defense is playing mainly.
 
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hatvol96 said:
I have finally realized exactly why I so detest Fulmer. Seeing Stoops go for it on 4th and inches on his own 29 leading 17-16 with a minute and change to go brought it into focus. Stoops, Carroll, Rodriguez, etc. are willing to toss the book out the window and risk being skewered. It shows a confidence in their players that is infectuous and breeds success. Fulmer and his ilk would rather play by some archaic dogma which shields them from criticism. Make the safe play. That way, it's never your fault.
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"Vintage Hat". I do wonder what would you say or ask Coach Fulmer if you ran into him face to face?
 
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Okay, let's consider this. It is UT vs UF and same situation. We go for it and a Gator defender blows through the line and blows the play up. UF holds on to the ball and kicks a last second FG to win. You know as well as I do that every UT fan in the world would be calling him an idiot and talking about how horrible he is at making big decisions. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
 
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FWIW, Fulmer faced that scenario and elected to punt it away to Jay Cutler's offense.
 
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You have to play the stats and the odds. Odds are that if you go for it on 4th down you will make it 1 of 5 times. I personally don't believe 20% is worth the risk. 8-9 wins per season is fine with me as long as we win the bowl game to make it to 9-10 wins, that's the only gripe I have with Fulmer right now.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
You have to play the stats and the odds. Odds are that if you go for it on 4th down you will make it 1 of 5 times. I personally don't believe 20% is worth the risk. 8-9 wins per season is fine with me as long as we win the bowl game to make it to 9-10 wins, that's the only gripe I have with Fulmer right now.
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If your team can only convert 4th and six inches one out of five times, you deserve to lose.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
8-9 wins per season is fine with me as long as we win the bowl game to make it to 9-10 wins, that's the only gripe I have with Fulmer right now.
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That's just sickening. Then again, when I consider the source, mediocrity does probably look pretty good.
 
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hatvol96 said:
If you team can only convert 4th and six inches one out of five times, you deserve to lose.
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If the odds were in your favor to go for it on 4th down, everyone would go for it no matter where you were on the field. Six inches or 2 yards doesn't matter.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
If the odds were in your favor to go for it on 4th down, everyone would go for it no matter where you were on the field. Six inches or 2 yards doesn't matter.
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Except for the fact that if it was 6 inches, you could trip and still get it by falling into the line.
 
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hatvol96 said:
I have finally realized exactly why I so detest Fulmer. Seeing Stoops go for it on 4th and inches on his own 29 leading 17-16 with a minute and change to go brought it into focus. Stoops, Carroll, Rodriguez, etc. are willing to toss the book out the window and risk being skewered. It shows a confidence in their players that is infectuous and breeds success. Fulmer and his ilk would rather play by some archaic dogma which shields them from criticism. Make the safe play. That way, it's never your fault.
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He coaches not to lose, not the kind of coach that wants to put a team away.
 
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