Was Lofton really better than Redick?

#2
#2
Lofton was easily a better player. Redick had players around him at DUKE. Lofton just did his thing with a little bit of talent around him. Now last year Tennessee was one of the best teams in the nation and he had a great team around him. I'm just talking about his sophomore and junior seasons. Redick always had great players around him...its DUKE for godsakes. But i will say TENNESSEE is gettin there. Especially with the 2010 recruiting class
 
#3
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I wouldnt go by just %'s. I loved evrything Lofton did for UT and he was a GREAT player. But IMHO.....JJ is who I would want.
 
#4
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Lofton was better than Redick. This is coming from someone who watched all of both players' games and is the biggest fan of both players. Lofton could hit tough, contested, shots and never had the talent around him like JJ did.
 
#7
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The thing that really sticks out to me is FTs attempted though. Jesus man, JJ must have been paying the refs under the table or something. I knew he got a lot of ticky tack calls, but damn, I didn't realize he took that many foul shots.
 
#8
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But you have to take in the fact that Redick was playing in the ACC not the SEC, so that plays a big factor
 
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dickens821 said:
3 sweet 16 teams in 06-07 and 2 Final Four teams in 05-06. That is strong. It's not the big east this year, but it is strong.
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Sweet 16 outfits happen by luck. Final 4s don't. We were definitely top heavy and seriously weak middle to bottom.
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#15
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Hard for me to judge between the two. But I like guys with "Tennessee" on their jersey a lot better than guys with "Duke" on their jersey. So that's my tiebreaker.
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ZZ13 said:
Hard for me to judge between the two. But I like guys with "Tennessee" on their jersey a lot better than guys with "Duke" on their jersey. So that's my tiebreaker.
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All day long.
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#17
#17
I hate dook and will hate dook until my last breath, but Redick was better in his four years. I love Lofton, and he has meant more to this program than anyone, but Redick's ability to catch and shoot made him the most feared player in college basketball. Lofton never reached that status.
 
#18
#18
Lol - JJ wasn't feared. JJ was a lot easier to shut down than Lofton - he always had to be set and wasn't nearly as good at contested shots. More often than not - Lofton would shut himself down rather than an opposing team... JJ was definitely a better pure shooter though.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
Lol - JJ wasn't feared. JJ was a lot easier to shut down than Lofton - he always had to be set and wasn't nearly as good at contested shots. More often than not - Lofton would shut himself down rather than an opposing team... JJ was definitely a better pure shooter though.
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I don't think a whole lot of teams liked to "LOL" when Redick worked them off a screen at least 5 times a game...whether you want to admit it or not, he was public enemy number 1 in college basketball during his time, and for good reason, he could flat out shoot.
 
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VOLS85 said:
I don't think a whole lot of teams liked to "LOL" when Redick worked them off a screen at least 5 times a game...whether you want to admit it or not, he was public enemy number 1 in college basketball during his time, and for good reason, he could flat out shoot.
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It wasn't hard to shut JJ down - just do the same thing that Ole Miss or that we did to Meeks (the second game). Face guard him and just deny him the ball (at the cost of leaving other people open like we did) - and JJ is a lot less athletic than Meeks and not as strong. So yes JJ "pale boy" Redick deserves a good 'lol'.

Yes - you suffer because other plays are open - but to say he was feared is wrong... you put him on any average team with average talent and he scores 15 a game - Duke's supporting cast was just so good that you really couldn't afford to face guard him that much and flat out deny him the ball. The guy couldn't create his own shot at all and that's really what I'd say makes someone "feared".. where you can't really do much and just hope he's having a bad day - all they did to get him open was run him off 20 screens per possession and he ended up wearing himself out half the time.

He was a great set shooter - one of the best of this era - but he couldn't do much more than that. But, I would have rather shut down the ugliest man on the court before focusing on JJ if I wanted to beat Duke back when they both played there.
 
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#23
#23
Lofton's FG% was better by 2.1% but Redick made 135 more FGs.
Lofton's 3pt% was better by 1.6% but Redick made 26 more 3s.
Redick was much better at getting to the foul line which suggests he was much more than a "just" a catch and shoot man. JJ was alot better taking the ball to the hole than Lofton.

Both of these players were GREAT for their universities. JJ "was" the most feared player in college his last two years. He was face guarded all the time too.
 
#24
#24
this thread has no relevance. I'm pretty sure no one cares about Redick on this board.
 
#25
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JJ got to the free throw line a lot more because he was "Mr. All-American" boy (and the fact that Chris rarely did his first two years because that wasn't a part of his game) and people played JJ tight so much that it wasn't really hard for him at all just to beat someone off the dribble since the defender had no room to make up ground if he did decide to drive.

JJ is just a spot up shooter and that's all he's ever been and its very evident in the pros. I was specifically referring to the fact that Lofton never had to set his feet or jump at a perfect angle (like JJ) for his shot to go in. He also was 10x the contested shooter JJ was. Not so much the fact that one could drive better than the other. Neither of them are very good at that - but JJ was bigger and that helped - but Chris had a good way of getting the ball up with his body positioning and didn't get his junk blocked a lot unlike a lot of smaller guards who aren't known for going to the hole.
 
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