WaPo vindicates Trump, acknowledges CDC/FDA failures for six weeks

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SpaceCoastVol said:
wow. For three years the left has persecuted him in vain weak attempts to undo 2016. Of course he will 'deflect'. Hell if a powerful body came after you 24/7 for 3 years, I would think even you would be gunshy. Good Lord. You people are something else
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A lot of people don't realize that the press and the opposition honed this approach on Nixon. They got the methods ironed out; when the dims swung way left they could really go all out against Trump. I doubt that most of us would have taken things as gracefully as Trump has; I know I think some of the opposition should have been locked up and others lynched by now. Hopefully the next republican president will have learned to clean house as he takes office.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
The libs need to log some overtime in this thrad. Trump's approval rating just climbed into the 50%+ range.

Like I said last week, all they've done by over hyping this virus is set him up to be the hero that vanquished Armageddon, for just managing people through the flu season.
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Lies....approval rating on handling the crisis was at 50. Which is high, considering he has t done anything but blame Obama and China.
 
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AM64 said:
A lot of people don't realize that the press and the opposition honed this approach on Nixon. They got the methods ironed out; when the dims swung way left they could really go all out against Trump. I doubt that most of us would have taken things as gracefully as Trump has; I know I think some of the opposition should have been locked up and others lynched by now. Hopefully the next republican president will have learned to clean house as he takes office.
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So Nixon was good?
 
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AM64 said:
A lot of people don't realize that the press and the opposition honed this approach on Nixon. They got the methods ironed out; when the dims swung way left they could really go all out against Trump. I doubt that most of us would have taken things as gracefully as Trump has; I know I think some of the opposition should have been locked up and others lynched by now. Hopefully the next republican president will have learned to clean house as he takes office.
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Yeah I doubt it. The next Republican president will be a return to the politician of old.
 
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AM64 said:
Awww, now you know very well that the NSC Pandemic team that Trump axed would have commandeered a lab, cranked out millions of immediate result test kits, sent the recipes for immunizations and cures out to get them manufactured and out for delivery the next day, and as a preventive measure shut down air traffic with China before they went off to bed. That pandemic team could do it all - didn't need no stinkin' CDC or FDA getting in their way and slowing them down.
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We'll never know will we?

Instead, we're now talking about using socialism, sorry, "stimulus" of US tax dollars to prop up the poor.
 
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0nelilreb said:
It doesn’t work like that because politicians get extremely wealthy keeping it inefficient and full of red tape . The money thrown at the military , Education , health care or any other program is almost alway ineffective because of the rot in government , the same rot that keeps politicians wealthy goes right down the chain . I know you aren’t as sewing how the military and business helps the population of our country . How big is that economy California likes to brag about without the military bases and business there ? If you are indeed in government then you know as far as tax breaks go , that’s a hell of a lot cheaper than healthcare for everyone and it’s not even in the same ball park .
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Yet people keep voting the ones that say that government doesn't work back in. Are they the gatekeepers? Why do they want six figure salaries, pension, lifelong benefits, and other perks if government doesn't work.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
The libs need to log some overtime in this thrad. Trump's approval rating just climbed into the 50%+ range.

Like I said last week, all they've done by over hyping this virus is set him up to be the hero that vanquished Armageddon, for just managing people through the flu season.
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RCP has him at -7.7
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You are seeing what you want to see, rather than what is grounded in reality. That is a form of unconditional support. Even for an acolyte, such an obsequious line must have been hard to type with a straight face.
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I ground in fact.

The WHO told the world on Jan 14 that it was not human-human transmittable. The CDC mirrored that comment at least as late as Jan 28. WHO became aware of human-human transmission Jan 20 or 21. The first U.S. case was Jan 21. The WHO did not declare a Public Health Emergency of International Concern until Jan 30th. Trump declared a Public Health Emergency on Jan 31.

I've already posted how the CDC and FDA whiffed the testing which took us all the way through Feb. to March, and referenced four articles from NYT, WaPo, Politico and Yahoo that fully corroborate.

That brings us to March when everyone knew we had a full on problem and Trump pulled together the private-public coalition. Whereas we had no viable test the first week of Mar. we now have tens of suppliers who've shipped at least two million kits and will have shipped 5-6 millions by next week, and weekly production of at least several million kits. Things are moving as they should have, but better than, in early-mid Feb.

What are you grounded in besides bitter dislike or hatred? Not much.
 
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Septic said:
I didn't even get ice in my cup of water yesterday bro-chacho. Just tepid water and stale cheeze-itz.

Thin margins when there's eight fare paying passengers on a A320.
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Don't worry. We are parking 600 airplanes. The ones that are still flying will be full again when this blows over.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
The libs need to log some overtime in this thrad. Trump's approval rating just climbed into the 50%+ range.

Like I said last week, all they've done by over hyping this virus is set him up to be the hero that vanquished Armageddon, for just managing people through the flu season.
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To this day still, the left doesn't even understand why he was elected.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
I work in government, it does not work like that.in theory it sounds good. But ask yourself this question, why do conservatives on shrink parts of government that they deem inefficient? Education, public health, etc...they throw money at the military and businesses. How does the military and businesses help the populace? Not enough money for healthcare but enough money for tax breaks......
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It’s not a surprise you work in government. You probably believe the Dept of Education is needed and the problem of public schools is “not enough money” despite us spending more money per capita than most any other country
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
I know that, could tell from your name. Two points, you can not run government like a business. Totally different skill sets and entities. Second point, conservative mantra starving to make something stronger, better. Put lick schools for instance. The public plan is to divert money to vouchers, taking money from public schools directing to private. Somehow,magically this will improve the quality of education in public education.
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OK, if you can't run government like business ... and I do agree with you on that, but not the way you want ... think Civil Service and bureaucracy protecting the incapable; then why the hell was the CDC taking responsibility for test kits and testing? CDC has a whole different function when it comes to diseases, transmission, and crises - they have no business on the front line developing or manufacturing anything. CDC should be getting the information necessary out to medical companies; assisting when asked; verifying results of and clearing the way for implementation of tests, meds, and vaccines; and otherwise staying out of the way except for monitoring. It's not a matter of government competing with private industry so much as government doesn't have the mandate, expertise, and facilities to manufacture - nor should it.

The next problem is the FDA. This may or may not be the time, but there are times the FDA needs to be told sit down and shut up if they cannot streamline regulatory approval for what has worked elsewhere.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Yet people keep voting the ones that say that government doesn't work back in. Are they the gatekeepers? Why do they want six figure salaries, pension, lifelong benefits, and other perks if government doesn't work.
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Because most of the voting populace are dim witted due to said failed education system and are told the system screws them so they will vote for more “free stuff”
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Because most of the voting populace are dim witted due to said failed education system and are told the system screws them so they will vote for more “free stuff”
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Correlating sense and education is going to get you strung up by the trumpers around these parts, best choose thine words carefully.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Lies....approval rating on handling the crisis was at 50. Which is high, considering he has t done anything but blame Obama and China.
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You want a Kleenex?

President Trump is getting a bump in the polls over his recent handling of the coronavirus pandemic but analysts warn that the uptick does not yet represent a meaningful shift in support behind the president.

Two new surveys released Friday found majority support for Trump’s handling of the health crisis. One survey showed Trump’s job approval rating moving past the 50 percent mark, a rarity since he took office.

Trump gets polling boost, but will it last?
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Orange_Crush said:
The libs need to log some overtime in this thrad. Trump's approval rating just climbed into the 50%+ range.

Like I said last week, all they've done by over hyping this virus is set him up to be the hero that vanquished Armageddon, for just managing people through the flu season.
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Which poll are you referring to? I just checked RealClearPolitics.com and Donald Trump's approval rating isn't higher than 46% in any of their polls. Even Donald Trump's own personal favorite poll, Rasmussen Reports (he regularly tweets their results), only has his approval rating at 46%. Donald Trump's Real Clear Politics Average Approval Rating is only at 44.3%.

And as for over-hyping this virus? All they've done is help to tank the stock market, which is one of Donald Trump's major selling points for re-election. Have you seen a Donald Trump rally in the last year when he didn't promote the gains made in the stock market since he took office in January of 2017? Well, those gains are almost completely gone now, and we are facing a likely recession before the end of the year because of this. The drop in Real GDP growth in the 2nd quarter could make it the worst quarter since 1958. There is a chance that it really could be -10%. Even with only one quarter of negative growth, this could still be declared a recession given it's incredible depth.

If over-hyping this virus was done to hurt Donald Trump's chances of being re-elected? I would say that it's looking pretty darn effective so far. We will see how things play out, but Donald Trump's main selling points for re-election are gone, and he is looking more vulnerable now than ever. I sincerely hope that Trump does something stupid like making use of federal funds to bail out his own properties. I don't think he is that stupid... but you never know. That would be enough to sink him.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
So Nixon was good?
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I guess a lot of that depends on whether you were around to have measured how he responded to things vs how Kennedy, LBJ, and later Carter screwed them up ... or you just got your info as framed by HS and college history. My big problems with the Nixon years were opening the doors to China and floating the dollar. Did he bungle Watergate? Yep. Did he initiate it? Questionable - I lean toward "no", but I wasn't there first hand to know. Did he make inroads on the war in Vietnam ... the one that LBJ totally bungled, and make our exit possible? Absolutely until a very anti-war congress traitorously cut virtually all aid to Vietnam, Laos , and Cambodia. There are a lot of similarities in how the opposition and media work against Trump; Nixon simply didn't have the personality to let it roll off as well as Trump does.
 
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