Wake-Up call for Vols in Destin

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vols 30 said:
Ok. People need to start using JJJ 😄
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Sorry about that. I had almost forgotten about Johnson.

Need JJJ to back up Turner. Yes, I think Turner could cost us 2-3 games in conference if he is inconsistent and we have no backup that is effective
 
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Barnes is a bit like Butch Jones. He loses players before they mature and develop.

He's lost four forwards prematurely. Three came in as freshmen and one sophomore.

Kasongo stayed one year as a sophomore.

Walker stayed two years, freshman and sophomore.

Burns stayed one year as a freshman.

Kent stayed two seasons plus a month this season.
 
#30
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1200DPI said:
Barnes is a bit like Butch Jones. He loses players before they mature and develop.

He's lost four forwards prematurely. Three came in as freshmen and one sophomore.

Kasongo stayed one year as a sophomore.

Walker stayed two years, freshman and sophomore.

Burns stayed one year as a freshman.

Kent stayed two seasons plus a month this season.
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This happens in most programs in college basketball. Coach Barnes’ coaching style is not for everyone. Of those players you listed, two were probably never going to be contributors, anyway. In my opinion, If a player can’t hack it, he is better off at another program, and UT can use the scholarships for better players.
 
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1200DPI said:
Barnes is a bit like Butch Jones. He loses players before they mature and develop.

He's lost four forwards prematurely. Three came in as freshmen and one sophomore.

Kasongo stayed one year as a sophomore.

Walker stayed two years, freshman and sophomore.

Burns stayed one year as a freshman.

Kent stayed two seasons plus a month this season.
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That might be the worst comparison I've ever seen made in this forum, and wow, is that saying something. The only similarity between Barnes and Butch Jones is that they are white males who have coached a team sport at Tennessee.
 
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"Coach Barnes’ coaching style is not for everyone. Of those players you listed, two were probably never going to be contributors, anyway. In my opinion, If a player can’t hack it, he is better off at another program, and UT can use the scholarships for better players."

That may be true but he OK'd bringing them into the program. There is a selection process and the coaches missed on these guys. Good bigs are rarer than good guards. Missing on bigs is more harmful to the program than mistakes on guards.
 
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1200DPI said:
"Coach Barnes’ coaching style is not for everyone. Of those players you listed, two were probably never going to be contributors, anyway. In my opinion, If a player can’t hack it, he is better off at another program, and UT can use the scholarships for better players."

That may be true but he OK'd bringing them into the program. There is a selection process and the coaches missed on these guys. Good bigs are rarer than good guards. Missing on bigs is more harmful to the program than mistakes on guards.
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No coach hits on every recruit
 
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1200DPI said:
Barnes is a bit like Butch Jones. He loses players before they mature and develop.

He's lost four forwards prematurely. Three came in as freshmen and one sophomore.

Kasongo stayed one year as a sophomore.

Walker stayed two years, freshman and sophomore.

Burns stayed one year as a freshman.

Kent stayed two seasons plus a month this season.
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This is happening to every program in the country with the transfer portal and players turning pro. Not sure why you are picking on Barnes.
 
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Butch Jones' name should never be mentioned in the same sentence as Rick Barnes. Butch recruited 4 and 5 star talent and "developed" them into 2 and 3 stars. Barnes has recruited 2 and 3 stars and turned them into NBA players. Butch Jones was a stubborn coach who stuck to his terrible scheme and change his system to fit the players that he had. Butch Jones was terrible at putting together coaching staffs. Might have been one of his biggest downfalls. Putting together coaching staffs might be one of Barnes greatest strengths.
 
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Josiah and Olivier still playing timid and expect that will change in the next month. We need another point guard and hopefully Vescovi will be playing for us come January. As the young players start giving more to the team up will go our ability. I think were a top twenty team right now and think we make 20 wins this season.
 
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orangemadam said:
We do have a tendency to telegraph our passes and Lamonte is somewhat inconsistent.

We need Vescovi badly. Looking more like an 18 win team than 22-24 wins, that's for sure.

I think we need to get JJ more involved with the pg situation sooner rather than later due to inconsistent play from Turner.
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I can pretty much guarantee we won’t be 24-5, only a handful of Power 5 teams will be. 18-11 gets us in the dance with our schedule. I’ve been far more encouraged by our start than discouraged. FSU was a tough matchup and we didn’t play well. It happens.
 
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Hopefully, Pember, Gaines, and Johnson can all get a good amount of minutes this Wednesday since Florida A&M has not won a game yet.
 
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