Voting Republican if you are a Democrat.

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Fine Vol

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If you were pulling for Hillary C. and you support most all of her issues she fights for. Hillary does not get the nomination. You go and vote for McCain. How can you vote for someone who is diametrically opposed to your views? Then you go vote for McCain I think that the only way you do that is because you cant get around the race issue. This was a topic on a show I listen to. What do you think?
 
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OWB said:
The only time I would vote Republican is NEVER!
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so you'd vote for a pro-life, pro 2nd amendment, tax cutting democrat like the ones recently elected in MS and IL?

let me sharpen the question, would you vote for a democrat who vocally and publicly disagrees with Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, the Obamassiah, and Al Gore? They do exist, Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman are a couple noteworthy examples.
 
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MG1968 said:
let me sharpen the question, would you vote for a democrat who vocally and publicly disagrees with Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, the Obamassiah, and Al Gore? They do exist, Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman are a couple noteworthy examples.
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67% of Democrat voters in Connecticut voted against Lieberman - he won his election as an independent against the Democratic nominee. Zell Miller hasn't been in the US Senate in more than 3 years.
 
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TennNC said:
67% of Democrat voters in Connecticut voted against Lieberman - he won his election as an independent against the Democratic nominee. Zell Miller hasn't been in the US Senate in more than 3 years.
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What about some of the newly elected D's who ran on a conservative platform (pro gun, pro life) such as Heath Shuler?
 
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BigPapaVol said:
that's untrue.
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Watch. The Hillary supporters are crying right now, but in the end, they will fall in line and vote for Obama. had it been Hillary winning the nomination, the black voters would have been pissed for a while, but when they go into the booth, they would have voted for Hills...
 
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TennNC said:
67% of Democrat voters in Connecticut voted against Lieberman - he won his election as an independent against the Democratic nominee. Zell Miller hasn't been in the US Senate in more than 3 years.
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lieberman wouldn't have won his seat back had some of those 67% had stayed loyal to the democrat party over the man who'd served them well for all those years.

my question to OWB (and to you) stands. Are you intellectually honest enough to admit that you'd rather vote party line than for a candidate who's views best matched your own regardless of party affiliation?
 
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volsforever27 said:
What about osme of the newly elected D's who ran on a conservative platform (pro gun, pro life) such as Heath Shuler?
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TennNC and OWB would rather not deal with a question like that. Democrats like Shuler may as well be republicans in their eyes ("Uncle Tom" is another phrase used by democrats, but not publicly)
 
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I met Obama this year, and solidified my decision not to vote for him. He was incredibly cocky, and made me feel like I was not good enough to be talking to him.

Nothing to do w/ his views or race, just didn't like him.
 
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Volholla said:
I met Obama this year, and solidified my decision not to vote for him. He was incredibly cocky, and made me feel like I was not good enough to be talking to him.

Nothing to do w/ his views or race, just didn't like him.
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You're right, it's better to vote for the leader of our country based on the person you'd rather have a beer with. :ermm:
 
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MG1968 said:
lieberman wouldn't have won his seat back had some of those 67% had stayed loyal to the democrat party over the man who'd served them well for all those years.

my question to OWB (and to you) stands. Are you intellectually honest enough to admit that you'd rather vote party line than for a candidate who's views best matched your own regardless of party affiliation?
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I would vote for the candidate if they were more in line with my views. I guess my thoughts would be as to why they affiliate with one party if their beliefs were so aligned with the other party. Lieberman for example, how does he go from being Al Gore's running mate to supporting John McCain within 8 years? As a conservative would you be wary of a guy that ran with Gore only 8 years prior or do you support him based on his current actions?
 
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615 Vol said:
You're right, it's better to vote for the leader of our country based on the person you'd rather have a beer with. :ermm:
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Hey, if a future president is down to earth enough to have a beer with me, i'll vote for him.
 
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MG1968 said:
lieberman wouldn't have won his seat back had some of those 67% had stayed loyal to the democrat party over the man who'd served them well for all those years.

my question to OWB (and to you) stands. Are you intellectually honest enough to admit that you'd rather vote party line than for a candidate who's views best matched your own regardless of party affiliation?
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I just didn't think your examples of Lieberman and Miller helped your argument. Candidates go against their party leadership all the time. There's a growing number of Republicans who won't endorse McCain, for a variety of reasons (from "he's not conservative enough" to "I disagree with his stance on the Iraq war.")

Your question wasn't directed at me, but I'll answer it now and will try to be intellectually honest. I don't vote party line all the time, especially with local elections. It all depends on the position, the candidate, and the climate -- what's most important to me at the time I vote.

More times than not, I will vote for the Democrat. I should note it hasn't always been that way.
 
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Volholla said:
Hey, if a future president is down to earth enough to have a beer with me, i'll vote for him.
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Always the top criteria in anyone's decision to vote for prez, just ahead of bowling ability and how often he/she wears a flag lapel pin.

The irony in this is that W doesn't drink beer anymore, right?
 
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Volholla said:
I met Obama this year, and solidified my decision not to vote for him. He was incredibly cocky, and made me feel like I was not good enough to be talking to him.

Nothing to do w/ his views or race, just didn't like him.
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Seriously? I met him, too. I felt the opposite. I was borderline Hillary or Obama, but that experience pushed me towards Obama. He was very down to earth. Michele, on the other hand... let's just say I'm grateful she's not running for PotUS.
 
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VOLatile said:
Seriously? I met him, too. I felt the opposite. I was borderline Hillary or Obama, but that experience pushed me towards Obama. He was very down to earth. Michele, on the other hand... let's just say I'm grateful she's not running for PotUS.
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Maybe that's because Michele wasn't proud to be a American yet? :)
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Watch. The Hillary supporters are crying right now, but in the end, they will fall in line and vote for Obama. had it been Hillary winning the nomination, the black voters would have been pissed for a while, but when they go into the booth, they would have voted for Hills...
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I know a handful of Hillary supporters who will vote for McCain in November.

The consensus among them is that they feel Obama isn't trustworthy, and they have serious concerns about his associations with Wright, Ayers, Pfleger, Rezko, Johnson...and the list will likely grow as the election draws nearer.
 
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