VOTE NOW!!! VOLS Smokey Gray Helmet BEST CFB Helmet in 2024

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Buzzbait said:
Yes I’m blind. Didn’t blow the pic up enough to see it clearly and also thought I had read that graphic was being dropped last year. My apology to any who were offended.
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So I can now come out of my safe place?
 
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TAF said:


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Now you’ve done it. Bringing up alternate unis, everyone starts showing up w/ torches and pitchforks.
 
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Imo, the Navy helmet is just wrong. Pirates were deserters, who prayed on the defenseless merchant ships. They murdered people for personal gain. They were sea-going thieves and homicidal maniacs. The Navy is supposed to ferret out and defend against seafaring threats, domestic and abroad. So, I find major fault with the design and theme of our nations Navy flying the colors of criminals. I'm certain there are better themes from the Navy and Marines that don't promote Piracy
 
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... I think this opens the door for us to put the 'Davey with the musket' logo back into circulation, somehow, without any push-back from the cancel culture, pacifists, a/o PC police. Imo, it's a more righteous symbol of vigilance and fighting spirit. Fighting against tyranny, and for the expansion of our great nation, the Volunteers set the standard for civilian-soldiering. I'll stack that against any and all pirate themes or colors.
 
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10seV4L said:
Imo, the Navy helmet is just wrong. Pirates were deserters, who prayed on the defenseless merchant ships. They murdered people for personal gain. They were sea-going thieves and homicidal maniacs. The Navy is supposed to ferret out and defend against seafaring threats, domestic and abroad. So, I find major fault with the design and theme of our nations Navy flying the colors of criminals. I'm certain there are better themes from the Navy and Marines that don't promote Piracy
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Well the Navy doesn’t . Which is why these uniforms were chosen to honor the VF-17 Jolly Roger Squadron from WWII.
 
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10seV4L said:
Imo, the Navy helmet is just wrong. Pirates were deserters, who prayed on the defenseless merchant ships. They murdered people for personal gain. They were sea-going thieves and homicidal maniacs. The Navy is supposed to ferret out and defend against seafaring threats, domestic and abroad. So, I find major fault with the design and theme of our nations Navy flying the colors of criminals. I'm certain there are better themes from the Navy and Marines that don't promote Piracy
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You might consider educating yourself before spouting off. It’s not just a generic pirate theme, it’s to commemorate a Naval fighter squadron known as the Jolly Rogers. They have quite the illustrious record dating back to World War II.

The military, including the academies, doesn’t often do stuff just for the vibes.
 
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I hate the gray unis and helmet. Probably just 'hate by association' but those unis/helmet remind me of Butch and I'd just as soon forget him and everything associated with him.
 
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Vol in Buckeye Land said:
You might consider educating yourself before spouting off. It’s not just a generic pirate theme, it’s to commemorate a Naval fighter squadron known as the Jolly Rogers. They have quite the illustrious record dating back to World War II.

The military, including the academies, doesn’t often do stuff just for the vibes.
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Thanks for the history lesson. While that does lend credence and merit to the theme, I think the optics are bad to the lay person. It's an easy misunderstanding and one that errs on the side of Google for explanation. I imagine most would require the explainer to make the connection you aspire to
 
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10seV4L said:
Thanks for the history lesson. While that does lend credence and merit to the theme, I think the optics are bad to the lay person. It's an easy misunderstanding and one that errs on the side of Google for explanation. I imagine most would require the explainer to make the connection you aspire to
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I don’t know that someone who didn’t give it any thought at all would arrive at the conclusion you did. They’d probably just go, “Oh, that looks cool,” and move on.

The USNA put a lot out there about the inspiration for the uniform, both on social media as well as the broadcast for the game. Not sure what more they realistically could have done, so we may just be at an impasse (ie you think it was fundamentally uncool and I think it’s fundamentally very cool) which is fine. Have a good one.
 
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Vol in Buckeye Land said:
I don’t know that someone who didn’t give it any thought at all would arrive at the conclusion you did. They’d probably just go, “Oh, that looks cool,” and move on.

The USNA put a lot out there about the inspiration for the uniform, both on social media as well as the broadcast for the game. Not sure what more they realistically could have done, so we may just be at an impasse (ie you think it was fundamentally uncool and I think it’s fundamentally very cool) which is fine. Have a good one.
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Fair and thoughtful. I would add that if/when the USNA put out their marketing campaign, to include the abundance of related info, I would deduce that to say it was a preemptive attempt to intercept any misunderstanding, such as I suggested. Nevertheless, as you pointed out, it was for a greater cause and inspiration, and the attention and proceeds went to the good guys regardless. Good chatting and respect
 
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