Vols Records By Decades

[VolnJC]

I was crunching the numbers to see where Butch would fall with some of the average wins per decade. Every year Coach Jones has been here, we have improved by 2 wins per year. If we win 11 this year and finish 11-2 or 11-3 his 4 year total would be an average of about 8-5 per year.
Here are the totals from the last 6 decades

60s total record 67-32 or average of 7 and 3
70s total record 75-39 or average of 8 and 4
80s total record 76-37 or average of 8 and 4
90s total record 98-22 or average of 10 and 2
00s total record 83-44 or average of 8 and 4
10s total record 37-38 or average of 6 and 6

Conclusion, I think we miss the 90s, and we appear to be heading back in that direction if we tweak the system instead of overhauling it again.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Que "Glory Days" by Springsteen

 

[VolnJC]

Que "Glory Days" by Springsteen

I don't know Bruce is probably a Rutgers fan We need to find something by the CDB

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Fulmer sucked and caused ALL the troubles Tennessee is now experiencing. Terrible coach.



Blue font for those whose sarcasm meter is broken.

 

[tvolsfan]

I was crunching the numbers to see where Butch would fall with some of the average wins per decade. Every year Coach Jones has been here, we have improved by 2 wins per year. If we win 11 this year and finish 11-2 or 11-3 his 4 year total would be an average of about 8-5 per year.
Here are the totals from the last 6 decades

60s total record 67-32 or average of 7 and 3
70s total record 75-39 or average of 8 and 4
80s total record 76-37 or average of 8 and 4
90s total record 98-22 or average of 10 and 2
00s total record 83-44 or average of 8 and 4
10s total record 37-38 or average of 6 and 6

Conclusion, I think we miss the 90s, and we appear to be heading back in that direction if we tweak the system instead of overhauling it again.

It's too bad Butch didn't win 3 games in year one and 6 games in year two. That would put us on pace for 15-0 next year.

 

[volfan102455]

I was crunching the numbers to see where Butch would fall with some of the average wins per decade. Every year Coach Jones has been here, we have improved by 2 wins per year. If we win 11 this year and finish 11-2 or 11-3 his 4 year total would be an average of about 8-5 per year.
Here are the totals from the last 6 decades

60s total record 67-32 or average of 7 and 3
70s total record 75-39 or average of 8 and 4
80s total record 76-37 or average of 8 and 4
90s total record 98-22 or average of 10 and 2
00s total record 83-44 or average of 8 and 4
10s total record 37-38 or average of 6 and 6

Conclusion, I think we miss the 90s, and we appear to be heading back in that direction if we tweak the system instead of overhauling it again.

Folks that truly believe that Tennessee historically has done better on average than 8 or 9 win seasons need to look at reality. This is reality.

I want us to get back to the 90's where we averaged 10-2. And we are headed there.

 

[VolnJC]

Folks that truly believe that Tennessee historically has done better on average than 8 or 9 win seasons need to look at reality. This is reality.

I want us to get back to the 90's where we averaged 10-2. And we are headed there.

I think it depends on when you were born...some of the younger fans heard about the General and grew up in the 90s...but like you said historically that's not reality. What makes it work is winning, I don't think kids today care as much about tradition as they do playing time and winning. Another thing that hurts the Vols, is that many times, we have to convince a kid, who grew up pulling for another school, to come play for the Vols.

 

[tvolsfan]

Folks that truly believe that Tennessee historically has done better on average than 8 or 9 win seasons need to look at reality. This is reality.

I want us to get back to the 90's where we averaged 10-2. And we are headed there.

Michigan, the winnigest program in history, probably averages about 8 wins a year. We play way more games than we used to.

 

[tvolsfan]

Tennessee is the second best team historically in the best conference in the country. Let's not try to take away from our own history so we can feel better about accomplishing so little in recent years.

 

[VolnJC]

Michigan, the winnigest program in history, probably averages about 8 wins a year. We play way more games than we used to.

That's why I also added losses, we average about 8 wins and 4 losses over the last 50 years.

 

[1972 Grad]

My frame of reference comes from the 5 football seasons while I was a student at U.T. from 1967 through 1971. I graduated in March 1972. Our record was 47-9-1. Two of the losses were by 1 point and one by 2 points.

The 9 losses were 3 to Auburn, and 1 each to Alabama, Ole Miss, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, and UCLA. The tie was to Georgia. 3 of the losses were bowl games. Of the 6 regular season losses in 5 years, only one was at Neyland. We were beaten by Auburn 10-9. I was spoiled early and badly. When I walked into Neyland on Sat. afternoon, I was sure I was going to a happy party that night.

 

[VolnJC]

My frame of reference comes from the 5 football seasons while I was a student at U.T. from 1967 through 1971. I graduated in March 1972. Our record was 47-9-1. Two of the losses were by 1 point and one by 2 points.

The 9 losses were 3 to Auburn, and 1 each to Alabama, Ole Miss, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, and UCLA. The tie was to Georgia. 3 of the losses were bowl games. Of the 6 regular season losses in 5 years, only one was at Neyland. We were beaten by Auburn 10-9. I was spoiled early and badly. When I walked into Neyland on Sat. afternoon, I was sure I was going to a happy party that night.

I remember in HS we lost one or two games per year...they used to say we reloaded instead of rebuilding...I've been out of HS over 20 years and we haven't come close to those records since then.

 

[volfan102455]

Tennessee is the second best team historically in the best conference in the country. Let's not try to take away from our own history so we can feel better about accomplishing so little in recent years.

That is true but some extended that to mean years and years of undefeated teams which just isn't true.

 

[VolnJC]

My frame of reference comes from the 5 football seasons while I was a student at U.T. from 1967 through 1971. I graduated in March 1972. Our record was 47-9-1. Two of the losses were by 1 point and one by 2 points.

The 9 losses were 3 to Auburn, and 1 each to Alabama, Ole Miss, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma, and UCLA. The tie was to Georgia. 3 of the losses were bowl games. Of the 6 regular season losses in 5 years, only one was at Neyland. We were beaten by Auburn 10-9. I was spoiled early and badly. When I walked into Neyland on Sat. afternoon, I was sure I was going to a happy party that night.

Was Dewey Warren there then? I remember him talking about some intense Auburn and Ole Miss games...he talked about the OM guys looking like they were 30 with full beards.

 

[volfan102455]

We also used to have "ties" too which deflated both the losses and the wins. Now we play OT so no more ties.

 

[1972 Grad]

Was Dewey Warren there then? I remember him talking about some intense Auburn and Ole Miss games...he talked about the OM guys looking like they were 30 with full beards.

Yes he was, as were Phil Fulmer, Jack Reynolds, Steve Kiner, Bobby Scott, Tim Priest, Curt Watson, Lester McClain, and a host of Volunteers.

 

[yoyoyoyo]

I was crunching the numbers to see where Butch would fall with some of the average wins per decade. Every year Coach Jones has been here, we have improved by 2 wins per year. If we win 11 this year and finish 11-2 or 11-3 his 4 year total would be an average of about 8-5 per year.
Here are the totals from the last 6 decades

60s total record 67-32 or average of 7 and 3
70s total record 75-39 or average of 8 and 4
80s total record 76-37 or average of 8 and 4
90s total record 98-22 or average of 10 and 2
00s total record 83-44 or average of 8 and 4
10s total record 37-38 or average of 6 and 6

Conclusion, I think we miss the 90s, and we appear to be heading back in that direction if we tweak the system instead of overhauling it again.

Alabama average by decade:
60's= 9 and 2
70's= 10 and 2
80's= 8 and 3
90's= 9 and 3
00's= 8 and 5 (including Saban going 26 & 2 last 2 years of decade)
10's= 12 and 2

All numbers are rounded, ties thrown out and credit was given for forfeited wins. Take Saban out and it's very comparable.

 

[volfan102455]

Michigan, the winnigest program in history, probably averages about 8 wins a year. We play way more games than we used to.

They averaged around 9 in the 70's, 80's and 90's and 2 to 3 losses - less in the 70's because ties were allowed. From 2000-2009 they averaged 8 wins 4 losses.

The increase in the number of games also drives to more losses.

 

[Mustng959]

Yes he was, as were Phil Fulmer, Jack Reynolds, Steve Kiner, Bobby Scott, Tim Priest, Curt Watson, Lester McClain, and a host of Volunteers.

I was about 10 or 11 when we lived just outside Cincinnati and the Bengals drafted both Dewey Warren and Bob Johnson (center) in their maiden season, I was ecstatic and got to see them both play a game under Coach Paul Brown. Can't remember the stadiums name but it was before Riverfront was built.

I remember when "Hacksaw" Reynolds cut his jeep in half after losing to Ole Miss and some QB named Archie "Who" Manning.Good times back then.

 

[Manvol]

I've seen these numbers many times and Numbers can be manipulated. Football is cyclical not necessarily by decade by decade. What if wins and losses were counted 1954-1964, 1965-1975, 1976-1986, etc, and so on. We are Historically great football school and fans who can see can tell this coaching staff on offense doesn't cut it. I'm one biggest vol fans on the planet, I'm not a negavol but reality is reality.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I've seen these numbers many times and Numbers can be manipulated. Football is cyclical not necessarily by decade by decade. What if wins and losses were counted 1954-1964, 1965-1975, 1976-1986, etc, and so on. We are Historically great football school and fans who can see can tell this coaching staff on offense doesn't cut it. I'm one biggest vol fans on the planet, I'm not a negavol but reality is reality.

Ok so I'm gonna challenge that. While numbers can be manipulated our historical record is our historical record. Decade breakups are as good as any. And yeah our teams of the late 30's and the 50's while not listed would definately improve those numbers.

However nobody posting on this board today witnessed any of those 30's or 50's games. And what about Vandy. As an awesome Vols fan I am assuming you know the charge Robert Neyland was given? And they are now a laughing stock and nobody believes they will return to that form. We at least have SEC championships and a Natty in the modern era.

Rationalize your armchair coaching however you want on our historical record. But in the modern era we have had ONE decade of something anybody could call "dominance". That is just the tale of the tape.

 

[Manvol]

Ok so I'm gonna challenge that. While numbers can be manipulated our historical record is our historical record. Decade breakups are as good as any. And yeah our teams of the late 30's and the 50's while not listed would definately improve those numbers.

However nobody posting on this board today witnessed any of those 30's or 50's games. And what about Vandy. As an awesome Vols fan I am assuming you know the charge Robert Neyland was given? And they are now a laughing stock and nobody believes they will return to that form. We at least have SEC championships and a Natty in the modern era.

Rationalize your armchair coaching however you want on our historical record. But in the modern era we have had ONE decade of something anybody could call "dominance". That is just the tale of the tape.

I usually don't respond to people but What are you talking about? I missed the part where I brought up the 30's. My point which if you missed it, is we are great football program and counting by decades or half decades to prove we are a 8 win program isn't right. We are historically top 10 program that's it that's the only number that matters. Op was trying to prove Butch is great by the numbers. I'm saying Nah. No debate.

 

[VolnJC]

I've seen these numbers many times and Numbers can be manipulated. Football is cyclical not necessarily by decade by decade. What if wins and losses were counted 1954-1964, 1965-1975, 1976-1986, etc, and so on. We are Historically great football school and fans who can see can tell this coaching staff on offense doesn't cut it. I'm one biggest vol fans on the planet, I'm not a negavol but reality is reality.

If you count success by championships, then we average about 1 every decade since 1960.

Since 1960 SEC Championships
Alabama 22
Florida 9
LSU 8
Georgia 8
Auburn 6
Tennessee 6
Ole Miss 3
Kentucky 1

 

[NorthDallas40]

I usually don't respond to people but What are you talking about? I missed the part where I brought up the 30's. My point which if you missed it, is we are great football program and counting by decades or half decades to prove we are a 8 win program isn't right. We are historically top 10 program that's it that's the only number that matters. Op was trying to prove Butch is great by the numbers. I'm saying Nah. No debate.

I got your point in your original post and I pretty much disagree with everything in your reply.

Op was not saying Butch is great by the numbers. Op was pointing out people's (like your) memories might be a tad skewed on their recollection of our historical performance.

 

[VolnJC]

I got your point in your original post and I pretty much disagree with everything in your reply.

Op was not saying Butch is great by the numbers. Op was pointing out people's (like your) memories might be a tad skewed on their recollection of our historical performance.

Exactly...if you find a 90 year old they may say our rival is Vandy, baby boomers might say Alabama, and younger generation would probably say Florida....I agree with Kiffin(yuck) but he was right our most important game might be Georgia because of recruiting...and of course if you started following in the 90s you might expect 10 wins a year...history doesn't show that.