Vols Offensive Gameplan vs Mountaineers

#52
#52
Depends on who starts at QB. If JG has progressed enough to win the job then UT can be more aggressive. He simply has a much, much better arm than KC. UT can run between the tackles then when WVU tries to cheat help in from their secondary, he can hurt them. They can get some of that with KC... but not nearly as much. They'll have to lean of the run game and D even more. With a "good" headed JG... I'm willing to say I think this game tilts more than 50% to UT. With KC... I'd say 30%.
 
#53
#53
WVU is going to be a different team on defense than it was a year ago. Stopping the run might not be their weakness in 2018.

The Mountaineers are very high on their DL. They lost two starters to transfer (Shuler and McDougle) but added Kenny Bigelow from USC and Jabril Robinson from Clemson. Behind the scenes WVU thinks its better off without Shuler and McDougle because one was lazy and the other selfish.

They (WVU) feels the DL was transformed from a weakness to a strength because of the new additions including man-child and the best recruit to come out of WV since Sam Huff... Dante Stills. Dante was ready to step in from day 1. He has the size, strength and speed to be force. He's nearly 300 lbs but runs like a 235 lb linebacker. WVU plans to use him, at least in his frosh year, as a pass rush specialist on 3rd down.

Bigelow was a 5* recruit who has underperformed due to injury but is healthy for the fist time in his college career. Robinson was simply behind the numbers at Clemson. The Clemson people say he would have started anywhere else. both have come in and been leaders.

WVU is equally set at LB...

If I was scheming against WVU I would pick on their CBs. Derrick Pitts is another home grown product who picked WVU over Penn State and a host of others. It's his first year starting at QB after redshirting last year. At LCB is Hakeem Bailey. Bailey started last year, lost his job, then regained it near the end of the season. Bailey has talent but was a "deer in the headlights" in his first year in the program.

In my opinion if WVU's new DL is as stout as its been reported to be in fall camp then the best bet is to pick on the r-frosh RCB and see if Bailey is ready for the pressure to play LCB when it counts. WVU's 3-3-5 - to work well, requires the CBs to play on an island... If WVU can play single coverage they use the safeties to flex the defense into many fronts including a 4-2 or other bear looks. If the Vols can beat single coverage and get the ball to the receivers then they force WVU into being less aggressive than they like.

One final thought on WVU's defense. The best player in a Mountaineer uniform is FS Kenny Robinson. Robinson hits like a LB but has the coverage skills of a shutdown corner. Robinson started at CB last year as a true freshman. Robinson played in only 10 games but had 46 tackles, 32 of them solo, 2 sacks and 3 interceptions with 2 TDs off those interceptions.
 
#56
#56
UT-Rex said:
And of that, KU determined they needed only 2 attempts (for 6 yards) from the QB.

KU - Rushing
Player Att. Gain Loss Net TD Lg. Avg.
Herbert,Khalil 36 294 3 291 2 67 8.1
Martin,Taylor 11 61 2 59 1 19 5.4
Williams,Dom 1 14 0 14 0 14 14.0
Bender,Peyton 2 6 3 3 0 0 1.5
TOTALS 50 375 8 367 3 67 7.3
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One of the reasons why I think we just crush them. Their tongues are hanging out on D by the second half. We score at will. If we can't and our defensive effort is lackluster we are in for a beat down. If they can't stop our running game and we put up a mediocre defense, we win big as their offense becomes forced to play from behind and becomes predictable, at that point, CJP feasts.
 
#58
#58
It seems we all want to compare this team with last years. In its simplest form for me the inability last year to establish continuity on the OL and be effective in every area of the offensive line put us in a bad position most of the games. Of course there were other issues but unless that’s better (I suspect it will be however I am concerned about the 4th quarter) we’ll struggle to control the game which we did not controlled ANY SEC game last year up front at all. Maybe the last drive against S.Carolina but that’s probably it. So I think we can speculate about our offense and defense but EVERYTHING hinges in the OL. Man let’s hope the OL is deeper, stronger, quicker, smarter, healthier, and more physical than last year. And as a side note we don’t have to slander the former staff anymore when we analyze this year. JMO of course.
 
#59
#59
smokey0625 said:
That's the definition of a qb. If he cant do that then he is not a qb. Why I feel Chryst is the guy when it's all said and done. Hes shown that he can win at a p5 level. He wont be great but I think he makes better decisions than jg.
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He has shown he can be part of a winning team, I doubt anyone would claim he has gone out and snatched a victory with his own play.
 
#60
#60
Electric Orange said:
So after finally having enough of Butch Jones and his lackluster, soft, and all too predictable version of the spread, UT is finally ready to get back to doing what made it great: running the ball downhill and through people. West Virginia's 3-3-5 defense is not built to stop power running teams, and their nose tackle and mlb aren't good enough to cover up that flaw. UT should be able to use extra blockers (te, fb, extra ot) in the backfield and on the same side of the line to take advantage of a scheme that primarily faces spread offenses in the pass happy Big 12. I think bubble screens will also help keep the defense honest and prevent stacking the box too much. The WR/TE slot seams will be open, especially if lined up in a trips or bunch formation. It's the same old story, use the run to set up play action, chew clock, give the defense time to rest, and it'll be a good day. I think we run a lot of iso up the middle, counters, traps that let a guard pull, and generally try to get upfield fast and wear them down. Our best chance running is to avoid plays to the outside and avoid slow developing, lateral moving Butch Jonesesque plays. Run it at em with a lead blocker and this defense will know what's coming but be unable to stop it. Controlling the clock is key. Think how many games we could have won if we could have milked the clock instead of running hurry up 3 and outs. I think our defense holds its own as long as they're not on the field too much. Hopefully Pruitt has more common sense than Jones, and will show it during the game. By getting rid of gamecharts, weird wr stances, odd clock management, and slow developing runs, Pruitt could return this offense back into a respectable unit and the Mountaineers defense will crumble even more than usual.
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I'm sure Pruitt will do his best to keep WV's offense off the field with as many time consuming drives as possible.
He had better
 
#61
#61
They bring back a defense that was 91st vs the pass and 104th vs the run. We’ll be better, crisper, more motivated, much more physical....and we’re gonna have better athletes across the board. If we’re executing, I think we’ll be able to call our shots offensively.

Defense is what concerns me. Our LBs and safeties I feel good about. DTs and DEs worry me greatly and although I’m excited about Alontae at corner, CB has to be a big area of concern, especially vs Grier and his very good WR corps.
 
#62
#62
photovol said:
WV will load the box until the Vols can show they can move the chains throwing the football, let's just hope we can hit some pass plays to open the running game or it could get ugly early
Fingers crossed that this is not the case, however
Go Vols
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I think they will stack it too. We're gonna have to hit them in the mouth with some pass plays to get them off balance.
 
#63
#63
WVMULE said:
WVU is going to be a different team on defense than it was a year ago. Stopping the run might not be their weakness in 2018.

The Mountaineers are very high on their DL. They lost two starters to transfer (Shuler and McDougle) but added Kenny Bigelow from USC and Jabril Robinson from Clemson. Behind the scenes WVU thinks its better off without Shuler and McDougle because one was lazy and the other selfish.

They (WVU) feels the DL was transformed from a weakness to a strength because of the new additions including man-child and the best recruit to come out of WV since Sam Huff... Dante Stills. Dante was ready to step in from day 1. He has the size, strength and speed to be force. He's nearly 300 lbs but runs like a 235 lb linebacker. WVU plans to use him, at least in his frosh year, as a pass rush specialist on 3rd down.

Bigelow was a 5* recruit who has underperformed due to injury but is healthy for the fist time in his college career. Robinson was simply behind the numbers at Clemson. The Clemson people say he would have started anywhere else. both have come in and been leaders.

WVU is equally set at LB...

If I was scheming against WVU I would pick on their CBs. Derrick Pitts is another home grown product who picked WVU over Penn State and a host of others. It's his first year starting at QB after redshirting last year. At LCB is Hakeem Bailey. Bailey started last year, lost his job, then regained it near the end of the season. Bailey has talent but was a "deer in the headlights" in his first year in the program.

In my opinion if WVU's new DL is as stout as its been reported to be in fall camp then the best bet is to pick on the r-frosh RCB and see if Bailey is ready for the pressure to play LCB when it counts. WVU's 3-3-5 - to work well, requires the CBs to play on an island... If WVU can play single coverage they use the safeties to flex the defense into many fronts including a 4-2 or other bear looks. If the Vols can beat single coverage and get the ball to the receivers then they force WVU into being less aggressive than they like.

One final thought on WVU's defense. The best player in a Mountaineer uniform is FS Kenny Robinson. Robinson hits like a LB but has the coverage skills of a shutdown corner. Robinson started at CB last year as a true freshman. Robinson played in only 10 games but had 46 tackles, 32 of them solo, 2 sacks and 3 interceptions with 2 TDs off those interceptions.
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Kenny Robinson = David Amerson
 
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#64
#64
Shawn Bryson 2.0. A quick handoff to the FB. Defense will be in the backfield looking for the ball and we will be 30+ yards down the field forcing a puny CB to make the tackle of his life!
 
#66
#66
Run the ball, between the tackles, stay in bounds, eat up clock, punt on 4th , wait for them to make mistakes,
 
#67
#67
LordBolton said:
Our team needs to watch film of the 2006 Cal game. We had just come off an embarrassing losing season. Cal came in ranked #9 if I recall. They left with many bruises and few points as we beat them like the government mules they were.
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Montario Hardesty got in the game in the fourth quarter and ran over and drug about 4 cal defenders 15 yards. That was the loudest game I’d ever been to until the Oklahoma game a couple years ago when baker mayfield beat us.
 
#68
#68
WVMULE said:
WVU is going to be a different team on defense than it was a year ago. Stopping the run might not be their weakness in 2018. - I'm sure it has been an area of focus for them...still, stopping the run may be difficult in the opener. WVU may be better on run defense...but I believe UT will be significantly better on run offense than last year, as well.

The Mountaineers are very high on their DL. They lost two starters to transfer (Shuler and McDougle) but added Kenny Bigelow from USC and Jabril Robinson from Clemson. Behind the scenes WVU thinks its better off without Shuler and McDougle because one was lazy and the other selfish. - Bigelow does appear to have the size to plug things up in the middle.

They (WVU) feels the DL was transformed from a weakness to a strength because of the new additions including man-child and the best recruit to come out of WV since Sam Huff... Dante Stills. Dante was ready to step in from day 1. He has the size, strength and speed to be force. He's nearly 300 lbs but runs like a 235 lb linebacker. WVU plans to use him, at least in his frosh year, as a pass rush specialist on 3rd down. - Freshmen pass rushers have had some success over the years...I like our chances if he is lined up against Trey Smith. I agree that WVU's defense should look significantly different than last year...since you run a 3 man front, and have brought in a high level recruit and two grad transfers.

Bigelow was a 5* recruit who has underperformed due to injury but is healthy for the fist time in his college career. Robinson was simply behind the numbers at Clemson. The Clemson people say he would have started anywhere else. both have come in and been leaders. - Transfers can immediately bring in talent and leadership...UT is hoping that bringing Brandon Kennedy from Alabama at Center will do the same.

WVU is equally set at LB... - Is Benton going to start at SAM? He is listed at 213, which seems a little light for the position. Tonkerly at 222, is a bit better for the MIKE, as is Tonkerly at the WILL. Size-wise, that would appear to be very well suited for pass protection, but a running team with a big FB/HB could create some issues. I would say that WVU's linebackers are a bit too small for a heavy run oriented team, and UT's LBs are a bit heavy to be effective in Pass Protection.

If I was scheming against WVU I would pick on their CBs. Derrick Pitts is another home grown product who picked WVU over Penn State and a host of others. It's his first year starting at QB after redshirting last year. At LCB is Hakeem Bailey. Bailey started last year, lost his job, then regained it near the end of the season. Bailey has talent but was a "deer in the headlights" in his first year in the program.

In my opinion if WVU's new DL is as stout as its been reported to be in fall camp then the best bet is to pick on the r-frosh RCB and see if Bailey is ready for the pressure to play LCB when it counts. WVU's 3-3-5 - to work well, requires the CBs to play on an island... If WVU can play single coverage they use the safeties to flex the defense into many fronts including a 4-2 or other bear looks. If the Vols can beat single coverage and get the ball to the receivers then they force WVU into being less aggressive than they like. - The area I see UT possibly taking advantage of a mismatch would be Tight End. He has a significant size advantage over your linebackers (height and weight), and could prove hard to bring down.

One final thought on WVU's defense. The best player in a Mountaineer uniform is FS Kenny Robinson. Robinson hits like a LB but has the coverage skills of a shutdown corner. Robinson started at CB last year as a true freshman. Robinson played in only 10 games but had 46 tackles, 32 of them solo, 2 sacks and 3 interceptions with 2 TDs off those interceptions.
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- Regardless of how good he is...there is no question that Will Grier is the best player in a Mountaineer uniform. Robinson may well be the best defensive player that WVU has, but if your safety is making most of your tackles...it means the other team is moving the ball on you pretty well.
 
#69
#69
If we line up with 11 Men on Defense and the 12th Vol shows up (aka Neyland Crowd), we just might be able to wreak enough havoc to slow down their potent O and give our possibly potent O enough chances for the W
 
#70
#70
KC has a lot of experience and JG has shown steady improvement.
Other than Dobbs what QB could have played well on our offense last year. JG was not stellar but it is hard to make reads while running for your life. I have confidence in both these guys if the supporting cast is solid. Our passing game will be good enough to win this game.
 
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