VOLS: "Full scale 5 alarm dumpster fire"

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Reece Davis just now on ESPN Gameday.
Finebaum says we could easily be 1-7.
Pollack: "u return 18 starters and can't win the east, if not this year, when will they ever win it".
Butch being blistered over Hurd loss and team chemistry.

*On edit - I'm just the messenger here. I never said I agree with these statements. Just letting Vol fans know what was said about our program this morning on Gameday.*
 
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GOOD!

I got scolded for bumping old topics last year when I was making my arguments against the head flutist. So I won't - but I did say last year when I was shouting from the highest rooftops that he's never been the guy - that he would probably fool around and go 9-3 this year and that would be his ceiling. This year was without a doubt the best chance this bozo ever will have to win even a divisional title in the SEC and he blew it like a lot of people thought he would.

Keeping him around another year isn't the answer and I'll tell you why. We are losing a lot of players after this season. This was the perfect storm year. Next year it will be a rebuilding year. And when you have a rebuilding year with a guy that trips over his own flute at least once or twice a year it will be disaster. We already have a whole bunch of 3 stars committed for the upcoming class and no 5 stars. If they lose to Missouri, Kentucky, or Vandy that list will shrink. And if we keep him here it will be a down year in recruiting. Then, when the inevitable happens next season and we open up with a loss against Georgia Tech and it goes completely toxic around here and then he loses a few more games and gets fired that will be two years in a row with subpar classes. He could be a lame duck coach after the first game next year. Which will make it more difficult for the guy replacing him to fix.

At this point he needs to go. He's whining about feeling underappreciated. Boo hoo he has 4 freaking million reasons not to feel underappreciated. When you are winless in your lifetime against Muschamp and gave Derek Dooley his signature win against you then I can't feel sorry for you. You sell cliches and smoke and mirrors and eventually it will bite you in the hind end. You only have so many years to use the cliches as crutches until, at the very least, SEC East Championships are expected. Thankfully we got that big trophy against Virginia Tech. And hey, in his own words, we are bowl eligible again so let's pop the cork on that champagne.

I never supported this guy as a hire and he never gave me one indication that he was the right guy for the job. I just hope to God when Blackburn comes (hopefully) that mediocrity will no longer be tolerated at the University of Tennessee. Butch Jones can't get the job done.

Someone says change offensive coordinators. What good will it do? Jones has a system that he is live and die by. No matter who the OC is it's going to be his baby. As he said from jump street, "the process is infallible." ANYONE who believes their process is infallible and not willing to change is an egomaniac. Maybe the saving grace will be that he knows what he is and that he just hit his ceiling here and will bolt for a similar paying job elsewhere claiming he wasn't wanted here and he can sell that same horsecrap to the next school he goes to.
 
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GOOD!



Keeping him around another year isn't the answer and I'll tell you why. We are losing a lot of players after this season. This was the perfect storm year.

We lose 2 players that have played in every game. Calm down it's not the end of the world. We lost one game we shouldn't have on the road by 3. JG will be a better version of Dobbs. We could actually improve next year.
 
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Off topic but is anyone else having problems with ESPN? I have Comcast and have audio but no picture.
 
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Reece Davis just now on ESPN Gameday.
Finebaum says we could easily be 1-7.
Pollack: "u return 18 starters and can't win the east, if not this year, when will they ever win it".
Butch being blistered over Hurd loss and team chemistry.

You better jump ship while the jumping is good! Be sure to take some more rats with you. :loco:
 
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GOOD!

I got scolded for bumping old topics last year when I was making my arguments against the head flutist. So I won't - but I did say last year when I was shouting from the highest rooftops that he's never been the guy - that he would probably fool around and go 9-3 this year and that would be his ceiling. This year was without a doubt the best chance this bozo ever will have to win even a divisional title in the SEC and he blew it like a lot of people thought he would.

Keeping him around another year isn't the answer and I'll tell you why. We are losing a lot of players after this season. This was the perfect storm year. Next year it will be a rebuilding year. And when you have a rebuilding year with a guy that trips over his own flute at least once or twice a year it will be disaster. We already have a whole bunch of 3 stars committed for the upcoming class and no 5 stars. If they lose to Missouri, Kentucky, or Vandy that list will shrink. And if we keep him here it will be a down year in recruiting. Then, when the inevitable happens next season and we open up with a loss against Georgia Tech and it goes completely toxic around here and then he loses a few more games and gets fired that will be two years in a row with subpar classes. He could be a lame duck coach after the first game next year. Which will make it more difficult for the guy replacing him to fix.

At this point he needs to go. He's whining about feeling underappreciated. Boo hoo he has 4 freaking million reasons not to feel underappreciated. When you are winless in your lifetime against Muschamp and gave Derek Dooley his signature win against you then I can't feel sorry for you. You sell cliches and smoke and mirrors and eventually it will bite you in the hind end. You only have so many years to use the cliches as crutches until, at the very least, SEC East Championships are expected. Thankfully we got that big trophy against Virginia Tech. And hey, in his own words, we are bowl eligible again so let's pop the cork on that champagne.

I never supported this guy as a hire and he never gave me one indication that he was the right guy for the job. I just hope to God when Blackburn comes (hopefully) that mediocrity will no longer be tolerated at the University of Tennessee. Butch Jones can't get the job done.

Someone says change offensive coordinators. What good will it do? Jones has a system that he is live and die by. No matter who the OC is it's going to be his baby. As he said from jump street, "the process is infallible." ANYONE who believes their process is infallible and not willing to change is an egomaniac. Maybe the saving grace will be that he knows what he is and that he just hit his ceiling here and will bolt for a similar paying job elsewhere claiming he wasn't wanted here and he can sell that same horsecrap to the next school he goes to.

Who you got in line to replace him?
 
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Losing to SC after a buy week is unacceptable even with the injuries. Our offense was mostly healthy and they should have put up more points. Our D had multiple injuries and did OK considering. Shoop is a good D-Coord. Our Oline is pathetic. They will probably look all pro today against Tech. I still think our Oline is not being coached up and have no idea how to zone block.
 
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Return 18 starters.... And lose half of them to injuries

Also play a much more difficult sec schedule than Florida
 
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Not with our OLine play. I think we have some OLine talent but the scheme and coaching is not working. We could probably have all 5 Stars on the OLine and the coaches would find a way to screw it up.
 
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Return 18 starters.... And lose half of them to injuries

Also play a much more difficult sec schedule than Florida

FL's 2015 5-game stretch was about as difficult as Tenn's 2016 4-game stretch (only LSU beat them, by only 7) -- CJMc beat CBJ / won the East his first season.

CBJ, in his 4th season, was beat by Muschamp's / SCe in his first season, by an 18 yr old qb's first SEC start.
 
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How many of those guys has been healthy all year? How different lineups have we had to play?

They were healthy enough to play good at SC and had a week off. No excuses to play that badly against the SC defense. It's been 4 years. The coaches either missed badly on recruiting or cannot coach them up or both.
 
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Reece Davis just now on ESPN Gameday.
Finebaum says we could easily be 1-7.
Pollack: "u return 18 starters and can't win the east, if not this year, when will they ever win it".
Butch being blistered over Hurd loss and team chemistry.

Tennessee can easily be 7-1as well.
 
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I don't put much stock in GameDay, as mostly it's there for entertainment purposes and to fill time till kickoff, but I always watch it. What interests me about it is Herbstreit saying he's heard a lot about the Hurd situation since he lives in Nashville and he believes it's addition via subtraction, and the team will be better, and Pollack says something about Butch kicking Hurd off the team. After reading what I've read over the past 10 days, I've found myself in a weird situation. My opinion of Hurd as a person has done a 180...whoda thunk it? I went back and forth with my friends supporting Hurd and saying that no one could run with our O line...boy was I wrong! Crow ain't bad if you use a lot of hot sauce.
 
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FL's 2015 5-game stretch was about as difficult as Tenn's 2016 4-game stretch (only LSU beat them, by only 7) -- CJMc beat CBJ / won the East his first season.

CBJ, in his 4th season, was beat by Muschamp's / SCe in his first season, by an 18 yr old qb's first SEC start.

Fla didn't play two top 5 teams in that stretch. Mizzou was in the middle of those games. LSU was the only decent team they played and lost.
 

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