Vols drop out of the top 25.

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Tennessee has gone from preseason No. 3 to not even receiving a vote in The Associated Press Top 25.


The Volunteers (3-4) fell from the rankings Sunday for the first time in three years after losing 16-15 to South Carolina and old nemesis Steve Spurrier.


No. 1 Southern California, No. 2 Texas and No. 3 Virginia Tech, all 8-0, hold the top three spots in the media poll for the sixth straight week. USC received 57 of 65 first-place votes, adding two from last week, and extending its record streak at No. 1 to 28 straight polls. The Trojans beat Washington State 55-13 on Saturday


Texas received eight first-place votes, down two from last week, after having to rally from a 19-point deficit to beat Oklahoma State 47-28.


Doug Segrest of The Birmingham News in Alabama started the season with USC No. 1, switched to Texas for three weeks and went back to the Trojans this week.


"I think it's so close you have to evaluate them on a week-by-week basis," he said. "It's that close and I don't think Virginia Tech is all that far behind -- and remember where I'm calling from."


Unbeaten Alabama (8-0) moved up a spot to No. 4 but UCLA, the other 8-0 team, is No. 7 behind a couple of once-beaten squads in the Top 25.


Miami, which plays at Virginia Tech on Saturday, is No. 5 and LSU is sixth.


The Bruins rallied in the fourth quarter for the fourth time this season and beat a Stanford 30-27 in overtime. UCLA has its highest rankings since October on 2001.


Notre Dame is No. 8, followed by Florida State and Penn State.


In the USA Today coaches' poll, the top seven is the same as the AP poll with USC, Texas, Virginia Tech, Alabama, Miami, LSU and UCLA.


Tennessee becomes the sixth team ranked in the AP preseason top 15 to fall out of the rankings at some point this season. The others are Michigan, Oklahoma, Iowa, Louisville and Purdue.


The last time the Volunteers dropped out of the rankings was Nov. 3, 2002. That season was very similar to this one for the Vols. Tennessee started the 2002 season No. 5 in the country and ended it unranked.

Georgia fell seven spots out of the AP top 10 to No. 11 after losing 14-10 to Florida without starting quarterback D.J. Shockley. The Bulldogs still control their destiny in the Southeastern Conference race.


Ohio State is No. 12, Florida moved up three spots to No. 13 and Wisconsin is No. 14.


The Badgers play at Penn State on Saturday with first-place in the Big Ten on the line.


Oregon is 15th followed by Texas Tech, Auburn, West Virginia, Boston College and TCU.


The final five are Fresno State, Michigan, California, Colorado and Louisville. The Buffaloes and Cardinals moved back into the rankings this week, as Northwestern fell out along with Tennessee.
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It has been bad before and we survived.
 
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Originally posted by LadyinOrange@Oct 30, 2005 5:11 PM
It has been bad before and we survived.
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LIO, be careful, this only adds fuel to the fire. I understand your intention, and appreciate the message, but what it really means is that the Vols have had two total meltdowns in the last five years.
 
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Originally posted by Lexvol@Oct 30, 2005 4:13 PM
LIO, be careful, this only adds fuel to the fire.  I understand your intention, and appreciate the message, but what it really means is that the Vols have had two total meltdowns in the last five years.
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I'm not trying to add fuel to any fire, Lexy. I just think folks should remember that college football is a roller-coaster ride
no matter which team you pull for.
 
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Originally posted by LadyinOrange@Oct 30, 2005 5:24 PM
I'm not trying to add fuel to any fire, Lexy. I just think folks should remember that college football is a roller-coaster ride
no matter which team you pull for.
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I certainly agree with that. Even when you are undefeated at this point in the season, you can always manage to walk around and find things to criticize and worry about, always convinced that the upset is around the corner. And know what? Eventually, it is.
 
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Originally posted by lawgator1@Oct 30, 2005 5:32 PM
I certainly agree with that.  Even when you are undefeated at this point in the season, you can always manage to walk around and find things to criticize and worry about, always convinced that the upset is around the corner.  And know what?  Eventually, it is.
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It is a roller coaster ride, and up until last night, even in the back of my mind I was thinking "fewer fumbles here, or a break there and this offense might be climbing again". It is just dissapointing to be stuck at the bottom of the hill and not moving.

Surely a Gator fan can relate.
 
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Originally posted by LadyinOrange@Oct 30, 2005 5:11 PM
It has been bad before and we survived.
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LIO, I have always appreciated your positive thinking and will continue to because you are an example of a true fan. However, the Vols are experiencing a downward spiral that has been ongoing for sometime now. I think the majority of the concerned fans want to correct the situation before the program hits rock bottom. From what I have read, fans are tired of hearing the same old adages that CPF uses about why the Vols are having problems.
 
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Over the last 14 years Fulmer has taken us to an amazing record, and no seasons you really call bad, we were bound to have a bad season sometime. When 8-5 was your previous worst season thats pretty good, we were bound to have a bad season, I just didnt think it was going to be this one but oh well.
 
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Originally posted by secfanclub@Oct 30, 2005 4:39 PM
LIO, I have always appreciated your positive thinking and will continue to because you are an example of a true fan.  However, the Vols are experiencing a downward spiral that has been ongoing for sometime now.  I think the majority of the concerned fans want to correct the situation before the program hits rock bottom.  From what I have read, fans are tired of hearing the same old adages that CPF uses about why the Vols are having problems.
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Thank you for the kind words. I'm not going to sit here and deny that I have not called for Randy Sanders' job in the past or that I have been negative about our offense ( or lack thereof) on more than one occasion this season, BUT, I refuse to let something as unimportant as a football game stress me out. Being on a diet is bad enough.

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Originally posted by Lexvol@Oct 30, 2005 5:37 PM
It is a roller coaster ride, and up until last night, even in the back of my mind I was thinking "fewer fumbles here, or a break there and this offense might be climbing again".  It is just dissapointing to be stuck at the bottom of the hill and not moving.

Surely a Gator fan can relate.
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Ummm .... yep!
 
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Originally posted by secfanclub@Oct 30, 2005 5:39 PM
LIO, I have always appreciated your positive thinking and will continue to because you are an example of a true fan.  However, the Vols are experiencing a downward spiral that has been ongoing for sometime now.  I think the majority of the concerned fans want to correct the situation before the program hits rock bottom.  From what I have read, fans are tired of hearing the same old adages that CPF uses about why the Vols are having problems.
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1993 10 - 2
1994 8 - 4
1995 11 - 1
1996 10 - 2
1997 11 - 2
1998 13 - 0
1999 9 - 4
2000 8 - 4
2001 11 - 2
2002 8 - 5
2003 10 - 3
2004 10 - 3

I'm sorry. I must be blind. Would you point out the downward spiral for me?

If you want rock bottom revisit the Bowden Wyatt years.
 
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I believe our biggest problem is lack of turnover in coaches. I do think their should be some changes made after this season. Although, I don't blame this all on coaching. You can preach to these kids only so much. They have to execute and take care of the ball. With all that has gone wrong, it is hard for me to believe that the coaches are just not doing their job. They know changes will be made at their expense if things don't change. We're not alone, just look at Oklahoma. Crap happens. I do think we need some new blood when it comes to the coaching staff. Sometimes you just need to shake things up a little. There is enough blame to go around to everyone. :twocents:
 
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Originally posted by KentheOrange@Oct 30, 2005 7:36 PM
1993    10 - 2
1994      8 - 4
1995    11 - 1
1996    10 - 2
1997    11 - 2
1998    13 - 0
1999      9 - 4
2000      8 - 4
2001    11 - 2
2002      8 - 5
2003    10 - 3
2004    10 - 3

I'm sorry.  I must be blind.  Would you point out the downward spiral for me?

If you want rock bottom revisit the Bowden Wyatt years.
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The way I look at that is pre Sanders we had one season where we are 8-4. After our NC, we have had 3 seasons with at least 4 losses and we are still working on our 4th season.
 
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Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Oct 30, 2005 8:33 PM
The way I look at that is pre Sanders we had one season where we are 8-4.  After our NC, we have had 3 seasons with at least 4 losses and we are still working on our 4th season.
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You are including 2002 in that statement which was probably the best year of coaching we have had since Fulmer took the reins. Sometimes the raw numbers can be misleading. I don't remember how many starts were missed due to injuries to our 1st string people, but it was a bunch. Fulmer even got national attention for winning 8 games that year with all the injuries.
 
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Originally posted by KentheOrange@Oct 31, 2005 8:35 PM
You are including 2002 in that statement which was probably the best year of coaching we have had since Fulmer took the reins.  Sometimes the raw numbers can be misleading.  I don't remember how many starts were missed due to injuries to our 1st string people, but it was a bunch.  Fulmer even got national attention for winning 8 games that year with all the injuries.
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Heck, with all the talent UT has, they are suppose to win ANYWAY. Injuries shouldn't have stopped Fulmer from having a winning record based off that alone. I admit, Fulmer has away of recruiting top notch players, and they usually cover up the offensive staff medicore coaching.
 
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The last team to start in the preseason top 5 and drop out of the top 25 was..........drumroll...................TENNESSEE in 2002.
 
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look at our records compared to other coaches a 4 loss season is some coaches best records, a ton of teams just hope to go to a bowl, well I guess we do too this year but only having to worry about a bowl for once in 12 years is fine by me, look at Fulmers record compared to Majors, Fulmer is a great coach.
 
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Originally posted by Orangewhiteblood@Nov 1, 2005 12:25 AM
The last team to start in the preseason top 5 and drop out of the top 25 was..........drumroll...................TENNESSEE in 2002.
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You are right, Auburn was only ranked 6th in 2003... but only took them 2 games to drop out of the AP top 25.

The rest of the story. Tuberville fired his OC, hired a new one and went undefeated in 2004.


On a side note, the Vols are still receiving points in the Coaches Poll and Harris Poll. BCS points have the Vols rated 33rd just ahead of 34th ranked South Carolina and just behind 32nd ranked Boise State.
 
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