Vols Are Last In The SEC

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rexvol

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Scout.com: The Bootleg's 2011 Graduation Rate Analysis

Football Graduation Rates: SEC
Vanderbilt 89%
Georgia 68%
Florida 67%
Alabama 67%
LSU 67%
Mississippi St. 64%
Auburn 63%
Kentucky 63%
Mississippi 61%
South Carolina 57%
Arkansas 55%
Tennessee 53%
Vanderbilt continues to be the class of the SEC in football grad rates. At least they led the SEC in something. Georgia somehow has managed to improve its football graduation rate from 41% to 68% in just three years, going from the bottom of the conference to the # 2 position, which is either a cause for commendation or a reason to wonder about the data, depending on your point of view.
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Football Graduation Rates: Big 12
Missouri 71%
Texas Tech 69%
Kansas St. 69%
Nebraska 68%
Baylor 64%
Iowa St. 64%
Colorado 59%
Oklahoma St. 59%
Texas A&M 57%
Kansas 56%
Texas 49%
Oklahoma 44%
For the first time, Missouri leads the Big 12 in football graduation rates, passing last year's leader, Nebraska. However, leading the Big 12 in graduation rates isn't such a big accomplishment. Missouri's 71% grad rate ranks only 30th in the FBS. Oklahoma and Texas have some of the worst football graduation rates in the nation. Oklahoma's is the worst among all BCS schools.
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for comparison
 
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Hopefully the turmoil in the program has contributed to the low numbers (e.g., Bryce Brown). 53% is embarrassing.
 
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it's barely below the average for all college students in the US. We know many have trouble getting in school so why do we expect more once they are there?
 
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I bet the coaching changes have something to do with that. Troubles with the law don't help. Hopefully, neither of those will be serious negative factors over the next few years.
 
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I'm not all that surprised. Some of the guys who get football schollies wouldn't qualify for school otherwise. Plus all the early entrants and guys who leave the program. I would expect it more like 70 but not much higher.
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I expect that to look even worse before it gets better...How many in the 08 class made it to senior this year?
 
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It's not really that shocking. With 3 coaches in 3 years an exodus of players is to be expected. It doesn't mean our players are dumb, just that a large percentage of the players we've recently brought in haven't wanted to play for whichever new coach came to Knoxville.
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utvolpj said:
it's barely below the average for all college students in the US. We know many have trouble getting in school so why do we expect more once they are there?
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because of all the extra benefits and help that student athletes receive that the average college student doesn't. it's a lot easier to graduate when you don't have to work part or full time to support yourself, as well.
 
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mrredskin said:
because of all the extra benefits and help that student athletes receive that the average college student doesn't. it's a lot easier to graduate when you don't have to work part or full time to support yourself, as well.
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that's crazy, athletes put in plenty of hours and I would say it's almost equal to a full time job. Other students have access to lots of comparable programs on campus but few take advantage of it. The athletes are just more accountable
 
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utvolpj said:
that's crazy, athletes put in plenty of hours and I would say it's almost equal to a full time job. Other students have access to lots of comparable programs on campus but few take advantage of it. The athletes are just forced to take advantage of it
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fyp
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utvolpj said:
that's crazy, athletes put in plenty of hours and I would say it's almost equal to a full time job. Other students have access to lots of comparable programs on campus but few take advantage of it. The athletes are just more accountable
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care to name those programs and where average students can get 1 on 1 help from tutors practically any time they need it?

oh, and the students are still paying for their tuition as opposed to most student athletes
 
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crusse10 said:
fyp
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still stand by more accountable. How many times does the KNS lead with "Joe Blow from FHS got suspended from UT for grades"?

mrredskin said:
care to name those programs and where average students can get 1 on 1 help from tutors practically any time they need it?
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there are plenty of tutoring sessions available on campus (or at least there were). Sure you have to search them out but they exist. Also you can go directly to the professor for a 1 on 1 if you wish right?

mrredskin said:
oh, and the students are still paying for their tuition as opposed to most student athletes
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their tuition is paid by the work they put in on and off the field. That's basically a full time job and benefits the university
 
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The fact that Auburn, Alabama, Georgia and Florida are in the 60% range makes me wonder about the numbers.
 
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utvolpj said:
Also you can go directly to the professor for a 1 on 1 if you wish right?



their tuition is paid by the work they put in on and off the field. That's basically a full time job and benefits the university
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during the professor's office hours, which are miniscule compared to the hours available for athletes, and you have to compete with other students for this availability.

you can't seriously sit there and say that the athletes don't have more privileges for help than the typical student.
 
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never said they didn't but how many students actually work full time while in school? The athletes are doing that.

as for professors, I was able to take an independent study class from one because I was more interested in his subject than what the class offered. I had him 1 on 1 twice a week and he was available pretty much any time I asked. How many students know this is an option and take advantage of it?
 
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It will probably be a little worse, before it gets better. Having just a handful of players from Fulmers last class on the team last year and half of Kiffins class gone will make it impossible for those classes to have a 50% rate. Basically, 100% of those left in those classes need to graduate to reach 50%.
 
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3 coaches in 3 years. That's all you need to know about this. It will get better.
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ReebaVol said:
3 coaches in 3 years. That's all you need to know about this. It will get better.
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This.

And why should they care about a piece of paper saying they have enough credits to get a real world job, when all of them are thinking about the green paper they are going to be getting in the NFL?

Screw classes. Go get that 40 fast.
 
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