VN Article: Vols add QB Justin Worley

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Vols4us said:
Bray has a huge arm. He had zip in the head and personal character. Worley needed development and is not as gifted with the arm, but has more between the ears and in his heart. So did Chaney and Dools choose wisely? Is three straight losing seasons with team disunity and off the field incidents not enough evidence to answer that question honestly?

It's not like Worley is not talented. He has enough of an arm to be successful in the SEC. He is just normal. He needed a couple of years of real development and not being thrown to the wolves and coaching incompetence like he was. Remains to be seen if he can recover from that mess to be able to get it done to our satisfaction. Most would agree that if he does what he did against UGA in the second half that we will be a happy bunch of fans.
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Danny Wuerffel didn't have much of an arm either but he turned out alright. he could however throw the fade extremely well.
 
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loggervol said:
Danny Wuerffel didn't have much of an arm either but he turned out alright. he could however throw the fade extremely well.
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If you lack the arm, you must have these.

1. Pinpoint accuracy
2. Perfect timing for routes
3. Great chemistry with WR's

Worley so far:

1. No
2. No.
3. Improving
 
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NashVOL93 said:
That article raves about his arm and touch on the ball. Wow. Did Chaney even know his name when he was here? Was he just abandoned completely? Zero player development has gone on with him until CBJ and CMB got here.
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Bray was benched at one point last year for Worley and he played when Bray was injured. I'm pretty sure Chaney knew his name. The article can rave about Worley's arm but the proof can be seen on Saturday's. Worley's arm is well below average for an SEC QB.
 
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GLDunlap said:
Bray was benched at one point last year for Worley and he played when Bray was injured. I'm pretty sure Chaney knew his name. The article can rave about Worley's arm but the proof can be seen on Saturday's. Worley's arm is well below average for an SEC QB.
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I don't think the arm strength issue would be as noticeable had we not just had Bray as a starter. Bray had a top 10 NFL arm when he stepped on UT's campus. Worley has below average arm strength for a D1 quarterback. Pretty big contrast right there.
 
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One thing I can say about Worley is that he doesn't seem to get rattled like Bray did. He's got a better head on his shoulders, per say. Also, Worley doesn't have anywhere to go but up at this point, so there is still plenty of room for improvement.
 
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delfonic said:
I don't think the arm strength issue would be as noticeable had we not just had Bray as a starter. Bray had a top 10 NFL arm when he stepped on UT's campus. Worley has below average arm strength for a D1 quarterback. Pretty big contrast right there.
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No need to compare to Bray. Worley's lack of arm strength is noticeable every time I watch any other college football game. Pinpoint accuracy can sometimes hide it but unfortunately Worley doesn't have that either. His mechanics are awful especially if under any hint of pressure. He can still be fairly successful if he plays within the system and doesn't try to force throws.
 
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Does anyone know where I can find the ut vs Vandy game from last year or post a link to it? It's not on YouTube.
 
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delfonic said:
I don't think the arm strength issue would be as noticeable had we not just had Bray as a starter. Bray had a top 10 NFL arm when he stepped on UT's campus. Worley has below average arm strength for a D1 quarterback. Pretty big contrast right there.
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Didn't I read somewhere that Worley was not too far behind Bray in arm strength? Or am I completely off my rocker?
 
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Rockytoptalker said:
One thing I can say about Worley is that he doesn't seem to get rattled like Bray did. He's got a better head on his shoulders, per say. Also, Worley doesn't have anywhere to go but up at this point, so there is still plenty of room for improvement.
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Who is say?
 
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PimpVol said:
Shining example of Brays "top 10 NFL arm".
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Context, dude, context.

I was talking about arm strength. He was clocked at the combine throwing a football 59 mph.

No one has thrown a football faster than that in 6 years, which is how long they've been putting throws on the radar gun. Here are some notables in that time period for comparison.

Joe Flacco, Delaware 55
Erik Ainge, Tennessee 52
Mark Sanchez, Southern Cal 57
Josh Freeman, Kansas State 57
Jake Locker, Washington 54
Colin Kaepernick, Nevada 59
Ryan Mallett, Arkansas 58
Andy Dalton, TCU 56
Cam Newton, Auburn 56
Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State 59
Kirk Cousins, Michigan State 59
Russell Wilson, Wisconsin 55
Tyler Bray, Tennessee 59
Zac Dysert, Miami (OH) 59
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Didn't I read somewhere that Worley was not too far behind Bray in arm strength? Or am I completely off my rocker?
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I also recall reading the story last season where the scouts were putting radar on Bray and he hit 55. They also did Worley and he got 51. Doesn't sound like a noodle arm to me.
 
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I never played QB, but pitched in a lot of baseball games. There is a difference between "placing" the ball and just throwing it. Even a guy who has a strong arm loses a lot of velocity when he tries and place the ball. Worley looks like he is placing the ball on every attempt, where Bray just slung it - the difference is confidence. That was the biggest difference I noticed in Worley during the second half of the GA game, he just seemed less tentative.
 
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For the Saints game, Brady averaged 51.5 mph per throw per some sportscenter report just now.
 
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nicksjuzunk said:
If you lack the arm, you must have these.

1. Pinpoint accuracy
2. Perfect timing for routes
3. Great chemistry with WR's

Worley so far:

1. No
2. No.
3. Improving
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Agree on point 3. But I think he's demonstrated points 1 & 2 at times, just with little consistency. I think of the TD throws to Smith, Pig and North, the 2 drops by Croom and North that would've been TDs.... he's shown flashes, just needs to improve his poise and confidence and #3 some more and I think we'll have a solid SEC QB. Don't think he'll ever be great or elite, but can be a solid QB we can win with.
 
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delfonic said:
Context, dude, context.

I was talking about arm strength. He was clocked at the combine throwing a football 59 mph.

No one has thrown a football faster than that in 6 years, which is how long they've been putting throws on the radar gun. Here are some notables in that time period for comparison.

Joe Flacco, Delaware 55
Erik Ainge, Tennessee 52
Mark Sanchez, Southern Cal 57
Josh Freeman, Kansas State 57
Jake Locker, Washington 54
Colin Kaepernick, Nevada 59
Ryan Mallett, Arkansas 58
Andy Dalton, TCU 56
Cam Newton, Auburn 56
Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State 59
Kirk Cousins, Michigan State 59
Russell Wilson, Wisconsin 55
Tyler Bray, Tennessee 59
Zac Dysert, Miami (OH) 59
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Cam Newton and Flacco both have way stronger arms than Bray does. I don't care what any number says.
 
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delfonic said:
Context, dude, context.

I was talking about arm strength. He was clocked at the combine throwing a football 59 mph.

No one has thrown a football faster than that in 6 years, which is how long they've been putting throws on the radar gun. Here are some notables in that time period for comparison.

Joe Flacco, Delaware 55
Erik Ainge, Tennessee 52
Mark Sanchez, Southern Cal 57
Josh Freeman, Kansas State 57
Jake Locker, Washington 54
Colin Kaepernick, Nevada 59
Ryan Mallett, Arkansas 58
Andy Dalton, TCU 56
Cam Newton, Auburn 56
Brandon Weeden, Oklahoma State 59
Kirk Cousins, Michigan State 59
Russell Wilson, Wisconsin 55
Tyler Bray, Tennessee 59
Zac Dysert, Miami (OH) 59
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They clocked Worley before the Vandy game 2012 and said how fast he threw the ball. It wasn't much worst than bray. I can't find the game anywhere to show ppl
 
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In the context of footage of Bray and Worley being clocked by the radar gun, commentators for the Vandy game said that anything above 50 mph was considered NFL-caliber arm strength.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Cam Newton and Flacco both have way stronger arms than Bray does. I don't care what any number says.
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This quote makes no sense to me. I know the radar said the blue car was going 60 and the white car was going 55, but I still believe the white car was going faster?!?! Might be a slight flaw in your logic. Appearances are deceiving sometimes. They could definitely be better at applying their arm strength to be successful but that does not mean they have 'more' arm strength.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Cam Newton and Flacco both have way stronger arms than Bray does. I don't care what any number says.
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Ummmmm no. Just no. Bray might not have been the best leader when he was here and we might not have won many games, but there was also a really ****ty coach here so why don't some of y'all try cutting him just a little slack?

It's ok to admit that he has at a minimum top 5 arm strength in the NFL. He just might have the strongest arm in the NFL.
 
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