vinson 3rd string???

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CICEROMESSIAH

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i can not fathom how brent vinson is listed as 3rd string behind rogan and gaines. by the bowl game, vinson was clearly our best corner. he is big and strongh enough to jam receivers at the line, fast and quick enough that he gets really good breaks on the ball. He has shown me everything i need to see in a lockdown number 1 corner. he's a bigger stronger faster jonathon wade. i think its rediculous that rogan can be ahead of him at this point. i say willingham and rogan at the starters. and in order rogan, johnson, and then gaines. theres no doubt rogan has a chance to be special, but hes too small to cover big receivers, and not fast enough to hang with the percy harvins of the sec. he will be ideal as a nickel back to cover a slot reciever or a back in the flats. i really hope the coaches smarten up and put vinson back in as a starter
 
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Is it possible the coaches know of factors you don't? And also, the depth chart is wide open at this point in the fall. It is likely he is listed where he is because of not being able to practice in the Spring.
 
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maybe so, but from someone who had reconstructive shoulder surgey, you can not rush that. they need to have him healthy. the coaches say he is 100%. maybe he needs to get back in shape but if he is not the starter on opening day we are gonna have big problems. there is no way in the world rogan or johnson is a better corner. vinson definately gives us our best shot to win
 
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Give Vinson two weeks of getting practice, then see where he'll be on the depth chart..
he's just now getting the hang of things since the season ended..

and im happy that rogan is the starter for now, because that means he made some strides.. now vinson has to step it up, and it will only make him better
 
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Who was it that said they would eat a bug if Vinson and Willingham were not the starters at CB? :)

I personally I think Vinson will be starting by the start of the season, but I could be wrong. The real battle will probably be with Rogan and not Gaines, and rightfully so. Rogan is definitely a playmaker.
 
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When Vinson is fully healed and back into the swing of things he will once again be the number 1 corner. No way that Gaines should be ahead of a healthy Vinson.

Rogan is worthy of starting though, and I really think that he can keep up with the Harvins of the SEC. Rogan has great acceleration and closing speed.

For hwat it's worth I think that Harvin is still fighting the injury bug and may not be full speed this year.
 
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Some people think that he may be in the doghouse and that's why he is basically on Slade's leash. Regardless, I don't see how he would be 3rd string. I could see them putting Willingham, Rogan, and Johnson ahead of him but who would be the 4th? Gaines? Fleming? Evans?
 
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Just posters on another board. The big guys on the board haven't said anything like that for certain.
 
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I heard the backend of a comment on Sports Animal today...referenced Vinson and his "friend" Duke Crews. Made it sound like he might be on his way out...hmm...
 
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CICEROMESSIAH said:
i can not fathom how brent vinson is listed as 3rd string behind rogan and gaines. by the bowl game, vinson was clearly our best corner. he is big and strongh enough to jam receivers at the line, fast and quick enough that he gets really good breaks on the ball. He has shown me everything i need to see in a lockdown number 1 corner. he's a bigger stronger faster jonathon wade. i think its rediculous that rogan can be ahead of him at this point. i say willingham and rogan at the starters. and in order rogan, johnson, and then gaines. theres no doubt rogan has a chance to be special, but hes too small to cover big receivers, and not fast enough to hang with the percy harvins of the sec. he will be ideal as a nickel back to cover a slot reciever or a back in the flats. i really hope the coaches smarten up and put vinson back in as a starter
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In fairness to Wade Vinson is a bit bigger but I very much doubt is faster. Whatever anecdotal evidence there is about how fast Vinson is (which is darn fast) in '05 Wade was AA in both outdoor and indoor and was anchor for the 2003 SEC champ 4x100m team. In high school he finished the '02 indoor season as the #1 55M sprinter in the country and had the #6 100m outdoor time.

Vinson is fast for sure but I very much doubt he's running in Wade territory.
 
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Yeah, the Sports Animal is nothing more than a haven for rumors and bs. I wouldn't pay any mind to anything spread on that station. His good friend is Duke but he has cleared it up that he has nothing to do with that situation. Regardless, I've not heard of any trouble he has been in so far and we wouldn't kick him off for one incident.
 
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the way i saw it. willingham/johnson on one side.. rogan/gaines on the other. and then u have vinson with gaines flemming evans fighting it out just to make it to pasadena. If he really is in the doghouse, then i can see it. HE is our BEST corner. Vinson needs to see the field
 
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hvwarrior58 said:
Some people think that he may be in the doghouse and that's why he is basically on Slade's leash. Regardless, I don't see how he would be 3rd string. I could see them putting Willingham, Rogan, and Johnson ahead of him but who would be the 4th? Gaines? Fleming? Evans?
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I read somewhere that his car was parked at Slade's house to avoid "distractions". Hopefully that will keep him out of trouble.
 
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norrislakevol said:
When Vinson is fully healed and back into the swing of things he will once again be the number 1 corner. No way that Gaines should be ahead of a healthy Vinson.

Rogan is worthy of starting though, and I really think that he can keep up with the Harvins of the SEC. Rogan has great acceleration and closing speed.

For hwat it's worth I think that Harvin is still fighting the injury bug and may not be full speed this year.
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Harvin had been playing with the heel injury since high school. All indications are that he is ahead of schedule in his recovery. The bottom line is this year may be the first time we have seen Harvin play at 100%, and that is not a good thing for opposing defenses.
 
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Doesn't it matter who are cb's are if chavis decides to play then 12-15 yards back from the line of scrimmage.
 
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hvwarrior58 said:
Yeah, the Sports Animal is nothing more than a haven for rumors and bs. I wouldn't pay any mind to anything spread on that station. His good friend is Duke but he has cleared it up that he has nothing to do with that situation. Regardless, I've not heard of any trouble he has been in so far and we wouldn't kick him off for one incident.
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You're probably right. After all, they do have 2 or 3 hours to fill everyday, and a lot of it is speculation. Still better than Jim Rome--->:crazy:
 
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I'm not gonna write the guy of before they even get into full pads. Like someone said it's probably because of the injury and missing spring.
 
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hvwarrior58 said:
Some people think that he may be in the doghouse and that's why he is basically on Slade's leash. Regardless, I don't see how he would be 3rd string. I could see them putting Willingham, Rogan, and Johnson ahead of him but who would be the 4th? Gaines? Fleming? Evans?
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Count this guy as "some people."
 
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Yes Vinson not being able to participate in spring practice has a lot to do with him being so low on the depth chart. And also a lot of times Fulmer does stuff like this to motivate guys, especially players like Vinson who have a ton of potential. Everybody knows Vinson can be a stud, including Vinson himself, but Fulmer never likes to let young talented guys like that get a big head. Earning his starting spot back will only make him a better player, and I expect he will do that by SEC play...
 
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remember when someone started that rumor on here that an unnamed DB will be suspended........................STILL WAITING
 
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Yeah, that rumor was all Morley and it was based on grades. That has been cleared up. This would be something new. I doubt he is suspended, though.
 
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CICEROMESSIAH said:
i can not fathom how brent vinson is listed as 3rd string behind rogan and gaines. by the bowl game, vinson was clearly our best corner. he is big and strongh enough to jam receivers at the line, fast and quick enough that he gets really good breaks on the ball. He has shown me everything i need to see in a lockdown number 1 corner. he's a bigger stronger faster jonathon wade. i think its rediculous that rogan can be ahead of him at this point. i say willingham and rogan at the starters. and in order rogan, johnson, and then gaines. theres no doubt rogan has a chance to be special, but hes too small to cover big receivers, and not fast enough to hang with the percy harvins of the sec. he will be ideal as a nickel back to cover a slot reciever or a back in the flats. i really hope the coaches smarten up and put vinson back in as a starter
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What examples can you provide that would lead anyone to believe something like this? Unless, of course, your expectations of what a lock down #1 corner are indeed just a Jonathan Wade type(who wouldn't have been a #1 on many top teams in the country).
 
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Vinson will be a starter halfway through the season, IMO. Maybe earlier. I thought Gaines would be starting across from Vinson this year, I'm not certain who is better than who. But I do know that Vinson SEEMS to be the best bet at CB. There are also reports that Willingham is playing fantastic. It will be interesting how much the rotation changes through the season.

Also, quick question for anyone. Is EJAW playing WR or LB?
 
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