VFL Football vs. Basketball

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VOLywood

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Seeing the decommits and defections from our basketball program makes you realize the true grit, character, and perseverance from our football players who stuck through two or three coaching changes. To me, those young men deserve big time respect. They have displayed the real VFL spirit...and now under CBJ, it appears that it will pay off for them. I believe this will also earn them a special place in the hearts of all Vols fans, knowing that our football program could easily be in much worse shape than it is.

With that said, I'm extremely disappointed in our basketball players and former commits, who instead of choosing to roll with the punches and persevere, have turned, tucked their tails, and ran for the hills when things got a little tough. Maybe I'm taking a little bit of a hard-nosed approach for teenagers, but the difference between the basketball players and the football VFL's is night and day.
 
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Like you said, for the most part these are all teenagers who don't want to take a chance on a new coach like Donnie. I don't blame them.
 
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VOLywood said:
Seeing the decommits and defections from our basketball program makes you realize the true grit, character, and perseverance from our football players who stuck through two or three coaching changes. To me, those young men deserve big time respect. They have displayed the real VFL spirit...and now under CBJ, it appears that it will pay off for them. I believe this will also earn them a special place in the hearts of all Vols fans, knowing that our football program could easily be in much worse shape than it is.

With that said, I'm extremely disappointed in our basketball players and former commits, who instead of choosing to roll with the punches and persevere, have turned, tucked their tails, and ran for the hills when things got a little tough. Maybe I'm taking a little bit of a hard-nosed approach for teenagers, but the difference between the basketball players and the football VFL's is night and day.
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In b4 circle jerk over our FB team
 
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I would say those individual workouts took a toll! ;) Probably showed them just how hard they needed to work to be in shape to press for 40 minutes. Being in shape is the most important part of accomplishing a physical mission in the Army. There are no slackers. Those who half step are sent home. Of course, there could also be some fear of new recruits coming in and taking their jobs. You just never know! The one thing you can be sure of is that after being on the UT payroll so to speak, they certainly have no loyalty to the university.
 
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SeniorDrill said:
I would say those individual workouts took a toll! ;) Probably showed them just how hard they needed to work to be in shape to press for 40 minutes. Being in shape is the most important part of accomplishing a physical mission in the Army. There are no slackers. Those who half step are sent home. Of course, there could also be some fear of new recruits coming in and taking their jobs. You just never know! The one thing you can be sure of is that after being on the UT payroll so to speak, they certainly have no loyalty to the university.
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I'm sure Thompson and Davis have never seen a tough work out before. It's not like anyone in their lives have been associated with basketball at a high level before.
 
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it's the age of quit when you see obstacles or things don't go as planned.

Not really surprised, unfortunately. Too bad they can't see that the coach they say they wanted to play for got next to nothing out of them. 3 pts combined for 2 guys that can slash and get to the rim with their length, when we avg'd 59 pts in 12 losses, isn't great coaching or even getting a portion of their talent out on the court.
 
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You guys are pretty disgraceful to a group of young men who played their hearts out, had their coach and well as them yelled at and asking for their jobs and questioning their ability to play. Now you are criticizing their ability to be tough enough to withstand a workout! The workout is not the problem, far from it. It is comments like yours that make them realize they are not wanted at Tennessee and like I have said before, you kick a dog every time he comes up to you wagging his tail...that dog is not going to stay around very long.
 
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PineyBluff Vol said:
You guys are pretty disgraceful to a group of young men who played their hearts out, had their coach and well as them yelled at and asking for their jobs and questioning their ability to play. Now you are criticizing their ability to be tough enough to withstand a workout! The workout is not the problem, far from it. It is comments like yours that make them realize they are not wanted at Tennessee and like I have said before, you kick a dog every time he comes up to you wagging his tail...that dog is not going to stay around very long.
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How about the hundreds of posts welcoming them aboard and congratulating them for good play, do those make them feel unwanted too? Cause for every negative comment I raise you the positives. UT fans are like any other passionate fan base. And players have to take the good, and we have a lot of good, with the bad.
 
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PineyBluff Vol said:
You guys are pretty disgraceful to a group of young men who played their hearts out, had their coach and well as them yelled at and asking for their jobs and questioning their ability to play. Now you are criticizing their ability to be tough enough to withstand a workout! The workout is not the problem, far from it. It is comments like yours that make them realize they are not wanted at Tennessee and like I have said before, you kick a dog every time he comes up to you wagging his tail...that dog is not going to stay around very long.
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perfect description of the participation ribbon generation.
Cry about it some more. Or quit as well.

I haven't seen anybody say they didn't want them to return. I see people say, ok, you are leaving, so bye. If you can't handle that, along with the reality that their first years showed much digression and no progress, maybe you are too emotional tied to it.
 
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Players take on the personality of the coach.

CDT wants winners, the previous coach wanted whiners.
 
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VOLywood said:
Seeing the decommits and defections from our basketball program makes you realize the true grit, character, and perseverance from our football players who stuck through two or three coaching changes. To me, those young men deserve big time respect. They have displayed the real VFL spirit...and now under CBJ, it appears that it will pay off for them. I believe this will also earn them a special place in the hearts of all Vols fans, knowing that our football program could easily be in much worse shape than it is.

With that said, I'm extremely disappointed in our basketball players and former commits, who instead of choosing to roll with the punches and persevere, have turned, tucked their tails, and ran for the hills when things got a little tough. Maybe I'm taking a little bit of a hard-nosed approach for teenagers, but the difference between the basketball players and the football VFL's is night and day.
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I agree love the commitment we see in our football Vols. One thought not meant to take anything away from their commitment. Dooley did not have any player loyalty when he left. Speaks to his lack of ability to connect with players.

Cuonzo did instill an attitude of loyalty. I believe coach T will do the same. Unfortunate the way things got ugly there before March madness because it shifted loyalty away from the program as a whole.
 
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VOLywood said:
Seeing the decommits and defections from our basketball program makes you realize the true grit, character, and perseverance from our football players who stuck through two or three coaching changes. To me, those young men deserve big time respect. They have displayed the real VFL spirit...and now under CBJ, it appears that it will pay off for them. I believe this will also earn them a special place in the hearts of all Vols fans, knowing that our football program could easily be in much worse shape than it is.

With that said, I'm extremely disappointed in our basketball players and former commits, who instead of choosing to roll with the punches and persevere, have turned, tucked their tails, and ran for the hills when things got a little tough. Maybe I'm taking a little bit of a hard-nosed approach for teenagers, but the difference between the basketball players and the football VFL's is night and day.
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Totally agree. These guys leaving won't make it far in life if they run every time a change occurs! They're in for a big awakening when they get in the real world!
 
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volboy81 said:
Totally agree. These guys leaving won't make it far in life if they run every time a change occurs! They're in for a big awakening when they get in the real world!
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I'm sure if the Harrison twins or Michael Frazier expressed interest in transferring to UT to play for the new coach, you'd be okay with it.
 
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PineyBluff Vol said:
You guys are pretty disgraceful to a group of young men who played their hearts out, had their coach and well as them yelled at and asking for their jobs and questioning their ability to play. Now you are criticizing their ability to be tough enough to withstand a workout! The workout is not the problem, far from it. It is comments like yours that make them realize they are not wanted at Tennessee and like I have said before, you kick a dog every time he comes up to you wagging his tail...that dog is not going to stay around very long.
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I personally didn't bring this up until after the kids decommitted or asked for release. I definitely want them here and had they stuck it out, in my mind they would have been appreciated even more like I mentioned in the first post about the FB players who toughed it out.
 
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