VASF Members

#26
#26
If someone is serious about being a good Vol, they will continue thier donation to the University's Scholarship Fund, but won't pay the 600.00 a pair for tickets.

THAT money is what helps pay Coach Fulmer, not the VASF money.

The problem is, a lot of people that "donate", don't see that money as a donation, they see it as money they have to pay to get those precious tickets, which is why when they sell them, they try to get their donation money back too.
 
#27
#27
I didn't say anything about paying the coach and how it's fair or not.

I simply said, taking money away from the SCHOLARSHIP FUND will hurt kids more than it will hurt anyone else, certainly more than it will hurt Coach Fulmer.

How that isn't a TRUTH to you is beyond me.
so once the money starts pouring in to the VASF, it's essentially a right because someone might miss the money when it's gone?

That's genius.

How else would you recommend that VASF donors and season ticket holders show displeasure?
 
#28
#28
If someone is serious about being a good Vol, they will continue thier donation to the University's Scholarship Fund, but won't pay the 600.00 a pair for tickets.

THAT money is what helps pay Coach Fulmer, not the VASF money.

The problem is, a lot of people that "donate", don't see that money as a donation, they see it as money they have to pay to get those precious tickets, which is why when they sell them, they try to get their donation money back too.

So which do you think would go first from the Athletic department's budget if they were hurting for money:

1) Scholarships for their athletes so that they can actually field teams...

or....in order to field teams, would they funnel money away from..

2) Fulmer's raises, lavish dinners, lavish receptions, etc.?

Raising money for one area can free it up for a lot of others....accounting can be a bit of a shell game...and money gets easily shuffled....that's why some referred to you as naive.
 
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#29
#29
i almost ditched VASF when johnny started out 0-6.

i almost ditched VASF when phil promised to "take us to the next level" and then had the Gators hang 62 on us. i thought that i had misunderstood which level he was talking about.

looking back, i'm glad i stayed in.

i was ready to ditch again after the 1st half of the UAB game, and i'm even more ready to ditch today. but i'm not going to.

everyone has to decide for themselves exactly what their goal is. if you view the donation as shopping for a commodity and see the commodity right now as a poor value (which it is), then bag it. if you see the support as part of a bigger picture, different story.
 
#30
#30
Not attending games and withholding funds are really the only means that common fans have to effect change.

I am all for both of the above. This has to stop now. Our proud program has become a national laughing stock.
 
#31
#31
When you make a donation to VASF, you have the option to buy tickets or not... I don't see what the problem is... DH and I sure aren't going to cut off our noses spite our faces and not make our donations, we'll continue buying season tickets... whether we like what's going on with our football program, Tennessee in a whole we'll continue to give our support... I don't believe in jumping to conclusions and then being sorry later.... sorry boys but we support Tennessee whether they be winners or loosers- I am a true believer in sportsmanship and a realist... we suck right now........:clapping:

GO VOLS......
GO BIG ORANGE .............
 
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#32
#32
See, this thread shows the entire problem with our "Fans".

You don't donate to the VASF to pay the Coach. Your money isn't wasted because the team doesn't win enough for YOUR tastes.

You DONATE your money so that kids can go to school. Your money pays for Scholarships, hence the Volunteer Athletic SCHOLARSHIP Fund.

Stopping the donations is a nice way to screw the players and the team. IF you hate the coach, great for you. But not giving the University the money it needs to give scholarships out is NOT going to do anything but punish the kids.

It's amazing to me that grown adults don't know this. It's amazing to me that grown adults think booing is a respectable thing to do.

Well maybe you can answer this genius. Why is Tennessee one of only a few schools where you have to actually donate to even have a chance to buy the season tickets? If this is the only means for the students to come to school at Tennessee then how do all of the other schools do it that just sell the tickets without having to make a contribution year after year to be able to purchase them. You are blind if you think all of our donations are going to students. I have three family members that are grads of UT and I know with all of the contributions they aren't just paying for the athletes especially the ones majoring in business and marketing
 
#33
#33
The program is screwed whether or not people give money. With Tennessee becoming a weak joke in the SEC, the program will lose money from lack of bowl appearances, no t.v. coverage, as well as the loss of schools outside the conference that want to pay to schedule us. That in itself should be enough for the administration to take notice.

I also am of the opinion that giving money to my school is a luxury. However if they misuse or mismanage it, I have the right to stop giving it. That is how many feel right now, giving big bucks to an inept coaching staff. Maybe those calling the shots in the athletic department have become too complacent and are taking advantage of the fact that we love Tennessee so much, they feel no real threat in losing support. Maybe they need to be reminded.
 
#34
#34
Well stated VolGrad I am glad to see some people agree if you start taking money from the school that will open their eyes to the coaching blunders.
 
#35
#35
The Volunteer Athletics & Scholarship Fund was founded in 1986 with hopes of growing the UT's men's athletic programs and allows each team to compete among the nations best intercollegiate athletic programs. The VASF is designed to give student-athletes at the University of Tennessee the opportunity to compete both athletically and academically and as it also funds some of the department's operating expenses. The VASF made it possible for Tennessee fans to continue supporting "The Big Orange" while receiving various member benefits.
 
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