'26 VA RB Savion Hiter

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LotteryPick said:
Do you think a 5 star would outperform Sampson or Wright the past two years? Would those rushing performances not be considered the level of a highly touted 5 star recruit?

This offense has numerous issues — running the ball has never been one.
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Same people said this in 22, 23 and before this season that WR will never be an issue. Yes we found and recruited highly rated guys out of high school in Sampson and they performed up to their level. Why not continue to recruit at that level or better? Why don't you want to be better?
 
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JCVol00 said:
This is the one position that stars arent as important, specifically in our offense. Look at Bishop for example. Sure, if we had a 5 star we might break an explosive run here or there, but with our splits and how opponents defense lines up sets our running game up nicely
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This is a repeat of all the WR talk from the past 3+ years. Yes, average players like Bishop can look good, but wouldn't it be nice to continue to recruit the Sampson's or better going forward? Wouldn't that explosive run you mentioned be better than no explosive run? **** man, you can want to remain the same going forward but some of us would like to see the team get better.
 
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UTvol1fn said:
Same people said this in 22, 23 and before this season that WR will never be an issue. Yes we found and recruited highly rated guys out of high school in Sampson and they performed up to their level. Why not continue to recruit at that level or better? Why don't you want to be better?
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I’m not talking about WR’s. Heupel’s teams have rushed for more than 2,500 yards every season, even before UT. It’s not an issue.

Sampson was not highly rated — he was a 3 star on several sites, as was Wright.

Just because they may not land a 5 star doesn’t mean they’re not recruiting the position well. Do better.
 
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UTvol1fn said:
This is a repeat of all the WR talk from the past 3+ years. Yes, average players like Bishop can look good, but wouldn't it be nice to continue to recruit the Sampson's or better going forward? Wouldn't that explosive run you mentioned be better than no explosive run? **** man, you can want to remain the same going forward but some of us would like to see the team get better.
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I mean…Sampson was a 3 star prospect. Rankings are more important for positions like WR, QB and OL
 
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UTvol1fn said:
Same people said this in 22, 23 and before this season that WR will never be an issue. Yes we found and recruited highly rated guys out of high school in Sampson and they performed up to their level. Why not continue to recruit at that level or better? Why don't you want to be better?
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In the 247 composite, DSamp was a 3*.

444th ranked player in the country. 36th RB in the country.
 
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JCVol00 said:
I mean…Sampson was a 3 star prospect. Rankings are more important for positions like WR, QB and OL
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He was breaking records in HS out of Louisiana. If you followed his recruitment, which I know you did, then you could tell he was highly underrated even as a 4 star. He wasn't some anomaly.

Regardless, the point being is that we want Hiter, no? Do we not all agree that he will murder in our offense? Rankings matter at all positions, but it doesn't take much to see he would be better than half our RB room on day 1.
 
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LotteryPick said:
I’m not talking about WR’s. Heupel’s teams have rushed for more than 2,500 yards every season, even before UT. It’s not an issue.

Sampson was not highly rated — he was a 3 star on several sites, as was Wright.

Just because they may not land a 5 star doesn’t mean they’re not recruiting the position well. Do better.
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I mean cool, just pointing out that you and others are posting similar comments about our running game now that 90% of our fan base on here said in years past about our wide receiver room under Heupel. And I never said we need a 5 star player, but it would be better to have one in Hiter and not assume we will be fine because we have been fortunate in the recent past. Hiter seems like plan A at the moment.
 
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UTvol1fn said:
He was breaking records in HS out of Louisiana. If you followed his recruitment, which I know you did, then you could tell he was highly underrated even as a 4 star. He wasn't some anomaly.

Regardless, the point being is that we want Hiter, no? Do we not all agree that he will murder in our offense? Rankings matter at all positions, but it doesn't take much to see he would be better than half our RB room on day 1.
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Oh yea I absolutely want him lol, thats not the point I was getting at at all. My point was a walk on can avg 5 yards a carry with our scheme
 
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UTvol1fn said:
I mean cool, just pointing out that you and others are posting similar comments about our running game now that 90% of our fan base on here said in years past about our wide receiver room under Heupel. And I never said we need a 5 star player, but it would be better to have one in Hiter and not assume we will be fine because we have been fortunate in the recent past. Hiter seems like plan A at the moment.
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Can you tell me a time during Heupel’s coaching career where he did not have a great rushing offense?

Peyton Lewis was highly rated, btw.
 
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JCVol00 said:
I mean…Sampson was a 3 star prospect. Rankings are more important for positions like WR, QB and OL
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Not OL. There are a number of all pro NFL linemen who were not high level recruits in the last 20 years. It’s a developmental position. Some were even recruited as tight ends, and Lane Johnson was a QB.
 
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JCVol00 said:
I mean…Sampson was a 3 star prospect. Rankings are more important for positions like WR, QB and OL
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We need a quality power speed typical SEC running back. Elite running backs fit any system. You don’t just settle for fits In the system exclusively. Settling for average to good backs isn’t the answer unless you want to be the Dallas Cowboys who believe any running back will do. Tennessee used to dish out strong tough fast backs that could hit the hole. To heck with settling for decent fits the system backs. We need dudes in the backfield. Johnny Jones,Reggie Cobb,Chuck Webb,Jamal Lewis, Travis Henry all bad dudes in the back field. Scat backs are a dime a dozen but you can find the strong and special like Alvin Kamara,Travis Stephens, Charlie Garner and Dylan Sampson. We need to recruit elite backs more, no settling. I would love to get Savion! GBO
 
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JCVol00 said:
Oh yea I absolutely want him lol, thats not the point I was getting at at all. My point was a walk on can avg 5 yards a carry with our scheme
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And that's a great thing about our offense and I believe you just said that he lacks explosiveness which could break games wide open. So we need to do better than Bishop as much as I like him and we need to do it with depth.
 
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LotteryPick said:
That is literally what Peyton Lewis is
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I agree on Lewis, why not get another one in this class like Savion. I love Lewis potential, he is big and fast and showed some flashes of what he could become. If we can land Savion I will feel as good about the RB position as I have in a while. I think Heupel and staff have upped their desire to get a more physical blend of power,speed and vision. It’s good to have different types but it’s hard to beat big strong and fast with vision. They are out there and we have to battle for them. Tough for scat backs to get the tough yards in the sec. We got to be meaner and tougher at the LOS and the running game.GBO
 
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DaddyChad said:
I like Lewis but he doesn’t have the vision that some RBs have naturally.
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He was a true freshman. Jaylen Wright “lacked vision” as a true freshman, but learned it.

Contrary to popular belief, it can be taught. Learning the offense and blocking schemes better, as well as learning to be patient and set up blocks are teachable skills.
 
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LotteryPick said:
I’m not talking about WR’s. Heupel’s teams have rushed for more than 2,500 yards every season, even before UT. It’s not an issue.

Sampson was not highly rated — he was a 3 star on several sites, as was Wright.

Just because they may not land a 5 star doesn’t mean they’re not recruiting the position well. Do better.
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Pretty clear CJH is better at RB evaluations than the services. Others too. What star ranks did the Doak W. Finalists have?
 
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DaddyChad said:
I like Lewis but he doesn’t have the vision that some RBs have naturally.
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I don't know if it's vision so much as that kid prefers to run through people and not around them. Old school style runner that loves running into linebackers and safeties.
 
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Vawlk Tuah said:
I don't know if it's vision so much as that kid prefers to run through people and not around them. Old school style runner that loves running into linebackers and safeties.
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That's unfortunately not the object of the game
 
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