UT Does Not Stretch

#4
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SmokeyCK17 said:
They actually do a dynamic stretch instead of just sitting there stretching.
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This, the moving around that Dooley mentioned is the video is a dynamic warmup. It is a lot more common place these days although a lot of team still do the line up and stretch routine as well.

If the guys need something in particular stretched out because of tightness or injury, they most likely get that attended to in the training room before practice.
 
#5
#5
Yankee_Vol said:
Stretching is overrated.
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Not only is it overrated, but in medical literature, there isn't conclusive evidence that STATIC stretching is helpful. There was a recent study that showed no protection against injury, and there have been others that showed that stretching lowers maximum speed and jumping ability.

Don't confuse STATIC stretching with dynamic stretching or warming up, both of which prevent injuries and are critical for any workout.
 
#6
#6
What's the ideal 10 minute warm up or "dynamic" streching that my 12 year old's can do prior to gametime/practice time. I need their jumping and speed @ its peak mane!
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#7
#7
well i don't know the diff between static and dynamic... but coach put me in charge of practice for two days ....on 40 yd dash first day he told me to line em up straight from class myself included... we all ran pretty slow... second day we all stretched for 15 min... and all of us... and i mean all improved our times at least .4 sec... i improved mine by half a sec... that was twenty yrs ago but human body seemed to benefit then... i surmised it was prob extra blood flow to the muscles... he was trying to show us the importance of stretching
 
#8
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StoVol said:
well i don't know the diff between static and dynamic... but coach put me in charge of practice for two days ....on 40 yd dash first day he told me to line em up straight from class myself included... we all ran pretty slow... second day we all stretched for 15 min... and all of us... and i mean all improved our times at least .4 sec... i improved mine by half a sec... that was twenty yrs ago but human body seemed to benefit then... i surmised it was prob extra blood flow to the muscles... he was trying to show us the importance of stretching
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I found this a little odd also. I know he was talking about static stretching, which is stretching your muscles without life like motion but it still concerns me. I had to stretch before practice or I was useless for at least 30 minutes and more prone to injury.

More and more my gym instructors confront me while stretching and talk to me about why I shouldn't stretch that why but the stretches they show me do not get the job done. I do agree that you need to warm up your muscles before doing any static stretches.

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#9
#9
StoVol said:
well i don't know the diff between static and dynamic... but coach put me in charge of practice for two days ....on 40 yd dash first day he told me to line em up straight from class myself included... we all ran pretty slow... second day we all stretched for 15 min... and all of us... and i mean all improved our times at least .4 sec... i improved mine by half a sec... that was twenty yrs ago but human body seemed to benefit then... i surmised it was prob extra blood flow to the muscles... he was trying to show us the importance of stretching
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Of course, the methodology that he employed to show you the importance of stretching was to lie about everyone's times.
 
#10
#10
I was thinking about those achilles tendon tears at the start of fall practice to a couple of starters, and then coach says they don't stretch before practice hmmm.
 
#13
#13
oklavol said:
I was thinking about those achilles tendon tears at the start of fall practice to a couple of starters, and then coach says they don't stretch before practice hmmm.
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Dynamic stretching is way better than static stretching. I know it looks weird coming from the old school thought, but they have found out that doing static stretching before physical exertion may lead to more to more injuries. There has been a controversy over static stretching saying that it gets you ready but makes you weaker.
 
#14
#14
Cant believe they dont stretch their achilles tendons. Everyone knows your supposed to do that.
 
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Volst53 said:
Dynamic stretching is way better than static stretching. I know it looks weird coming from the old school thought, but they have found out that doing static stretching before physical exertion may lead to more to more injuries. There has been a controversy over static stretching saying that it gets you ready but makes you weaker.
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This.

UT's basketball team doesn't static stretch either. My high school soccer team didn't either. Nor did my college soccer team.
 
#17
#17
There is actual research data that concludes that static stretching actually reduces muscle strength and explosiveness for a period of time after the stretching. Dynamic stretching is far better and this is a good indicator that we have a S&C coach up to date with the latest information.
 
#18
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oklavol said:
I was thinking about those achilles tendon tears at the start of fall practice to a couple of starters, and then coach says they don't stretch before practice hmmm.
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Those injuries have nothing to do with them suffering the achilles injuries.

They are still getting properly warmed up and "loose" as people would like to call it. The new techniques have been proven far more effective in studies.
 
#19
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Orangekush423 said:
What's the ideal 10 minute warm up or "dynamic" streching that my 12 year old's can do prior to gametime/practice time. I need their jumping and speed @ its peak mane!
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I have some stuff that I use for the teams that I work with. PM me a email or something and I will see what I can send you.

D1 sports (owned by Will Bartholomew) also sells a really good video on their website for about 20-30 bucks that gives a lot of different warm-up exercises and some weight training stuff that I would recommend for anyone trying to learn more about it. I believe they even explain why they do it vs. other forms of thinking and its broken down into ability levels.
 
#22
#22
Regular stretching improves force, jump height, and speed, although
there is no evidence that it improves running economy.
(Clin J Sport Med 2004;14:267–273)

http://www.elitetrack.com/article_files/stretchingreview.pdf

"In the 1 study measuring 50-yard dash time,
regular stretching improved performance. This suggests that
contraction velocity or force is more important than running
economy for short sprints. Whether this is also true for longer
distances remains to be determined."
 
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#23
#23
Stretching cold muscles is worse than no stretching at all. As a runner, I have attended many seminars by experts, and they all agree. Warming up, on the other hand, is a necessity. Stretching about an hour after strenuous activity is normally the recommended method to limit soreness.
 
#24
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His point was the players don't really stretch, but they tend to lay there or go easy instead of getting warmed up.

You have to warm up, that's a given, the team is just doing it actively vice the traditional stand around and bend over/touch your toes.

StoVol, your old coach was really showing you the value of warm muscles vs cold muscles. The 10-15 minutes of stretching was really a form of warming up. Had you had the guys jog a couple of laps or do half speed sprints before timing them you would have had the same results.
 
#25
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oklavol said:
I was thinking about those achilles tendon tears at the start of fall practice to a couple of starters, and then coach says they don't stretch before practice hmmm.
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All in favor of Dooley:detective: Wonder if his dad did this?
 
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