University of Tennessee is like.....

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salutethehill said:
Good coach at Memphis does not necessarily translate to power 5.
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Virginia Tech, USC, and Notre Dame would argue otherwise. Fuente had VT playing for the ACC Title in his first year and in Top 25 this year. Clay Helton was our former OC in the last decade. Notre Dame hired away our OC last year and the only thing he's done is make them a Top 15 team after 4-8 the previous year.

Memphis is 4-2 vs Power 5 in the last 4 years. Memphis has a difficult time getting Power 5 schools to play us, especially given the current climate. Tennessee still owes Memphis a home game that they "delayed" during the Deangelo years. Same for Arkansas.

Contrary to popular belief, there are a handful of G5 teams that would beat handily 2/3 of the Power 5 schools.

Watch the UCF/Memphis AAC Title game this weekend. Actually use your eyeballs, be honest with yourself, and tell me those two teams wouldn't beat every team in the SEC East except for Georgia and every SEC West team except Auburn and Bama.

True that if UCF or Memphis played an SEC schedule, they'd have 2-3 losses. Know what that would make them? - record wise equivalent to Auburn, LSU, Mississippi State, but doing it with 1/10th the budget.

Memphis and UCF are chock full of 4* and 3* players. These aren't a bunch of plucky 1 and 2 stars that have been coached up. Most of these recruits had offers from Power 5 schools and would be getting playing time their Junior and Senior years at the likes of Oklahoma, Florida, etc. They chose to playing time over prestige.

They aren't destroying teams simply because of a "system". They are destroying them because the system is being run by superior coaches that have recruited and are coaching better athletes than their competition. If Norvell can recruit Power 5 type talent to Memphis (and Frost to UCF), why is it so hard for Vol fans to fathom that UT is an easier sell (better conference, better TV exposure, better facilities)?

The defenses give up more points because the offenses score at an incredible pace and don't give the D a lot of rest. However, the last time I checked, the team with the most points wins the game. I'll give up 40 points every time if we score 45-50.

Lastly, if Missouri can score 30-50 points on SEC defenses, I promise you Memphis and UCF could.
 
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901king said:
Virginia Tech, USC, and Notre Dame would argue otherwise. Fuente had VT playing for the ACC Title in his first year and in Top 25 this year. Clay Helton was our former OC in the last decade. Notre Dame hired away our OC last year and the only thing he's done is make them a Top 15 team after 4-8 the previous year.

Memphis is 4-2 vs Power 5 in the last 4 years. Memphis has a difficult time getting Power 5 schools to play us, especially given the current climate. Tennessee still owes Memphis a home game that they "delayed" during the Deangelo years. Same for Arkansas.

Contrary to popular belief, there are a handful of G5 teams that would beat handily 2/3 of the Power 5 schools.

Watch the UCF/Memphis AAC Title game this weekend. Actually use your eyeballs, be honest with yourself, and tell me those two teams wouldn't beat every team in the SEC East except for Georgia and every SEC West team except Auburn and Bama.

True that if UCF or Memphis played an SEC schedule, they'd have 2-3 losses. Know what that would make them? - record wise equivalent to Auburn, LSU, Mississippi State, but doing it with 1/10th the budget.

Memphis and UCF are chock full of 4* and 3* players. These aren't a bunch of plucky 1 and 2 stars that have been coached up. Most of these recruits had offers from Power 5 schools and would be getting playing time their Junior and Senior years at the likes of Oklahoma, Florida, etc. They chose to playing time over prestige.

They aren't destroying teams simply because of a "system". They are destroying them because the system is being run by superior coaches that have recruited and are coaching better athletes than their competition. If Norvell can recruit Power 5 type talent to Memphis (and Frost to UCF), why is it so hard for Vol fans to fathom that UT is an easier sell (better conference, better TV exposure, better facilities)?

The defenses give up more points because the offenses score at an incredible pace and don't give the D a lot of rest. However, the last time I checked, the team with the most points wins the game. I'll give up 40 points every time if we score 45-50.

Lastly, if Missouri can score 30-50 points on SEC defenses, I promise you Memphis and UCF could.
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i agree that UCF and Memphis are better than alot of SEC fans think. at the same time, a team like MS state i could see beating them as well due to just wearing down the lines of both teams. same could be said for LSU. so for me that puts them somewhere like 6th best in the conference
 
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TN1 said:
No, the University of Tennessee and its football team have been hijacked - hopefully temporarily - by a small faction of snowflake fans who wouldn't know a good coaching hire if it hit them in their sniffling noses. Currie made the right hire and the snowflakes melted and had a temper tantrum. They need to go back to their safe places and let's see if UT can make a decent hire at all now that the snowflakes have made a laughing stock of our school.
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Get off the internet Greg, you have a playoff game to go prepare for.
 
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TN1 said:
No, the University of Tennessee and its football team have been hijacked - hopefully temporarily - by a small faction of snowflake fans who wouldn't know a good coaching hire if it hit them in their sniffling noses. Currie made the right hire and the snowflakes melted and had a temper tantrum. They need to go back to their safe places and let's see if UT can make a decent hire at all now that the snowflakes have made a laughing stock of our school.
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It’s not just your school
I invested money in it also so it’s my school to
Don’t I get a say or is it just your way only
I sat back and took subpar products
No more will I do it
 
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#30
A very specific analogy. Let's see if it plays to a broader audience.
 
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tn1 said:
no, the university of tennessee and its football team have been hijacked - hopefully temporarily - by a small faction of snowflake fans who wouldn't know a good coaching hire if it hit them in their sniffling noses. Currie made the right hire and the snowflakes melted and had a temper tantrum. They need to go back to their safe places and let's see if ut can make a decent hire at all now that the snowflakes have made a laughing stock of our school.
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kys
 
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901king said:
Virginia Tech, USC, and Notre Dame would argue otherwise. Fuente had VT playing for the ACC Title in his first year and in Top 25 this year. Clay Helton was our former OC in the last decade. Notre Dame hired away our OC last year and the only thing he's done is make them a Top 15 team after 4-8 the previous year.

Memphis is 4-2 vs Power 5 in the last 4 years. Memphis has a difficult time getting Power 5 schools to play us, especially given the current climate. Tennessee still owes Memphis a home game that they "delayed" during the Deangelo years. Same for Arkansas.

Contrary to popular belief, there are a handful of G5 teams that would beat handily 2/3 of the Power 5 schools.

Watch the UCF/Memphis AAC Title game this weekend. Actually use your eyeballs, be honest with yourself, and tell me those two teams wouldn't beat every team in the SEC East except for Georgia and every SEC West team except Auburn and Bama.

True that if UCF or Memphis played an SEC schedule, they'd have 2-3 losses. Know what that would make them? - record wise equivalent to Auburn, LSU, Mississippi State, but doing it with 1/10th the budget.

Memphis and UCF are chock full of 4* and 3* players. These aren't a bunch of plucky 1 and 2 stars that have been coached up. Most of these recruits had offers from Power 5 schools and would be getting playing time their Junior and Senior years at the likes of Oklahoma, Florida, etc. They chose to playing time over prestige.

They aren't destroying teams simply because of a "system". They are destroying them because the system is being run by superior coaches that have recruited and are coaching better athletes than their competition. If Norvell can recruit Power 5 type talent to Memphis (and Frost to UCF), why is it so hard for Vol fans to fathom that UT is an easier sell (better conference, better TV exposure, better facilities)?

The defenses give up more points because the offenses score at an incredible pace and don't give the D a lot of rest. However, the last time I checked, the team with the most points wins the game. I'll give up 40 points every time if we score 45-50.

Lastly, if Missouri can score 30-50 points on SEC defenses, I promise you Memphis and UCF could.
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I didn't say mid-majors were bad teams. I did say that, just because Norvell is doing well at Memphis, it doesn't mean that he'll be great at a place like TN. Sometimes it works out. Sometimes it doesn't.

Fuente is doing a fine job at VA Tech. I wouldn't want him, because he got run off the field last year by the worst coach in TN history.
 
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#35
Tennessee AD ought to make Kiffin a respectable offer, not treat him like something the cat dragged in.
 
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TN1 said:
No, the University of Tennessee and its football team have been hijacked - hopefully temporarily - by a small faction of snowflake fans who wouldn't know a good coaching hire if it hit them in their sniffling noses. Currie made the right hire and the snowflakes melted and had a temper tantrum. They need to go back to their safe places and let's see if UT can make a decent hire at all now that the snowflakes have made a laughing stock of our school.
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28-48 in the Big East is your idea of a good coach? THE BIG EAST.

Big Jim, I'm not going to Pilot until you butt out of UT athletic's decisions.
 
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TN1 said:
No, the University of Tennessee and its football team have been hijacked - hopefully temporarily - by a small faction of snowflake fans who wouldn't know a good coaching hire if it hit them in their sniffling noses. Currie made the right hire and the snowflakes melted and had a temper tantrum. They need to go back to their safe places and let's see if UT can make a decent hire at all now that the snowflakes have made a laughing stock of our school.
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You keep making new accounts!

Hahahahahahahahahahaha.


Your boy didn't get hired. Thank goodness.
 
#39
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salutethehill said:
I didn't say mid-majors were bad teams. I did say that, just because Norvell is doing well at Memphis, it doesn't mean that he'll be great at a place like TN. Sometimes it works out. Sometimes it doesn't.

Fuente is doing a fine job at VA Tech. I wouldn't want him, because he got run off the field last year by the worst coach in TN history.
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First, Fuente wouldn't come to the dumpster fire that is UT.

Second, the results of one game do not determine if a coach is good or not. He's 2-4 vs Top 25 in his 2 years with 3 of the losses coming to Top 10 teams (Clemson and Miami).

In short, Fuente typically beats the teams he is supposed to every time, loses to vastly superior teams most times, beats equal teams majority of the times, and beats superior teams sometimes. Basically, the exact opposite of Butch Jones.

I'd say his only shortcoming as a coach is he hasn't beaten a team that runs the triple option (0-2 vs Navy, 0-2 vs GaTech).
 
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