It's disappointing to see a poster branded as "crazy" or, a "fool" just because they disagree with the opinion of another poster, particularly when there is no way to determine the answer to the point in question. That type of response will make potential posters think twice about posting on this forum. It's disrespectful.Do you really think Pat's legacy will just be a "glimmer" in any LV fans memory within the next 25 years? Thats crazy talk.....if you believe otherwise you are a fool.