Trump set to announce an executive order against Volnation and other social media platforms.

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The draft order targets a law known as the Communications Decency Act. Section 230 of the legislation provides broad immunity to websites that curate and moderate their own platforms, and has been described by legal experts as "the 26 words that created the internet."

It argues that the protections hinge mainly on tech platforms operating in "good faith," and that social media companies have not.

"In a country that has long cherished the freedom of expression, we cannot allow a limited number of online platforms to hand-pick the speech that Americans may access and convey online," the draft order says. "This practice is fundamentally un-American and anti-democratic. When large, powerful social media companies censor opinions with which they disagree, they exercise a dangerous power."

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Translation: While Trump's actual target is Twitter and other media portals, as it concerns Volnation, it would appear that if Trump were successful in gutting the Communications Decency Act. Section 230, it could effectively prevent Moderators, Freak and/or Volnation (as an entity) from censoring posters here. Under the order, the Commerce Department would ask the Federal Communications Commission for new regulations clarifying when a company's conduct might violate the good faith provisions of Section 230 -- potentially making it easier for tech companies (e.g. Volnation) to be sued.

A draft of the order also reportedly includes a directive for the White House Office of Digital Strategy to recreate a tool that gives Americans the opportunity to report alleged instances of censorship online. The so-called White House Tech Bias Reporting Tool would receive those complaints and submit them to the Justice Department and the Federal Trade Commission (FTC). The FTC would then be required to consider taking action and examine whether the complaints violated the law. The attorney general would also be directed to create a working group that assesses content moderation practices from social media companies.

What this could mean: As an example, while I'm not advocating it, it is not against the law to swear in public. If Trump has his way, I and other users would have our FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS to swear on here as we see fit. If Volnation and its moderators were to remove or change our posts, we could file a complaint with the FCC that Volnation is committing a crime by violating our First Amendment right to free speech. Volnation would NOT have any legal shield preventing such action. Further, Volnation would likely (eventually) be FORCED to allow people to post any damn thing they want here as long as said post didn't violate the letter of the law.

Is this really the future of social platforms that we want here folks? Make no mistake, Trump's target is Twitter because it recently tagged two of his tweets as containing inaccuracies, but changing the CDA laws would most certainly affect you and me personally here on VN.
 
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The draft order targets a law known as the Communications Decency Act. Section 230 of the legislation provides broad immunity to websites that curate and moderate their own platforms, and has been described by legal experts as "the 26 words that created the internet."

It argues that the protections hinge mainly on tech platforms operating in "good faith," and that social media companies have not.

"In a country that has long cherished the freedom of expression, we cannot allow a limited number of online platforms to hand-pick the speech that Americans may access and convey online," the draft order says. "This practice is fundamentally un-American and anti-democratic. When large, powerful social media companies censor opinions with which they disagree, they exercise a dangerous power."

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Translation: While Trump's actual target is Twitter and other media portals, as it concerns Volnation, it would appear that if Trump were successful in gutting the Communications Decency Act. Section 230, it could effectively prevent Moderators, Freak and/or Volnation (as an entity) from censoring posters here. Under the order, the Commerce Department would ask the Federal Communications Commission for new regulations clarifying when a company's conduct might violate the good faith provisions of Section 230 -- potentially making it easier for tech companies (e.g. Volnation) to be sued.

A draft of the order also reportedly includes a directive for the White House Office of Digital Strategy to recreate a tool that gives Americans the opportunity to report alleged instances of censorship online. The so-called White House Tech Bias Reporting Tool would receive those complaints and submit them to the Justice Department and the Federal Trade Commission (FTC). The FTC would then be required to consider taking action and examine whether the complaints violated the law. The attorney general would also be directed to create a working group that assesses content moderation practices from social media companies.

What this could mean: As an example, while I'm not advocating it, it is not against the law to swear in public. If Trump has his way, I and other users would have our FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS to swear on here as we see fit. If Volnation and its moderators were to remove or change our posts, we could file a complaint with the FCC that Volnation is committing a crime by violating our First Amendment right to free speech. Volnation would NOT have any legal shield preventing such action. Further, Volnation would likely (eventually) be FORCED to allow people to post any damn thing they want here as long as said post didn't violate the letter of the law.

Is this really the future of social platforms that we want here folks? Make no mistake, Trump's target is Twitter because it recently tagged two of his tweets as containing inaccuracies, but changing the CDA laws would most certainly affect you and me personally here on VN.
I’m for it. And that’s all I have to say about that .
 
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I’m for it. And that’s all I have to say about that .

It'll be great when the dems are in charge of the FCC.

“This does not work,” commissioner Jennifer Rosenworcel said bluntly in a statement Thursday. “Social media can be frustrating. But an Executive Order that would turn the Federal Communications Commission into the President’s speech police is not the answer."
 
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The draft order targets a law known as the Communications Decency Act. Section 230 of the legislation provides broad immunity to websites that curate and moderate their own platforms, and has been described by legal experts as "the 26 words that created the internet."

It argues that the protections hinge mainly on tech platforms operating in "good faith," and that social media companies have not.

"In a country that has long cherished the freedom of expression, we cannot allow a limited number of online platforms to hand-pick the speech that Americans may access and convey online," the draft order says. "This practice is fundamentally un-American and anti-democratic. When large, powerful social media companies censor opinions with which they disagree, they exercise a dangerous power."

# # #

Translation: While Trump's actual target is Twitter and other media portals, as it concerns Volnation, it would appear that if Trump were successful in gutting the Communications Decency Act. Section 230, it could effectively prevent Moderators, Freak and/or Volnation (as an entity) from censoring posters here. Under the order, the Commerce Department would ask the Federal Communications Commission for new regulations clarifying when a company's conduct might violate the good faith provisions of Section 230 -- potentially making it easier for tech companies (e.g. Volnation) to be sued.

A draft of the order also reportedly includes a directive for the White House Office of Digital Strategy to recreate a tool that gives Americans the opportunity to report alleged instances of censorship online. The so-called White House Tech Bias Reporting Tool would receive those complaints and submit them to the Justice Department and the Federal Trade Commission (FTC). The FTC would then be required to consider taking action and examine whether the complaints violated the law. The attorney general would also be directed to create a working group that assesses content moderation practices from social media companies.

What this could mean: As an example, while I'm not advocating it, it is not against the law to swear in public. If Trump has his way, I and other users would have our FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS to swear on here as we see fit. If Volnation and its moderators were to remove or change our posts, we could file a complaint with the FCC that Volnation is committing a crime by violating our First Amendment right to free speech. Volnation would NOT have any legal shield preventing such action. Further, Volnation would likely (eventually) be FORCED to allow people to post any damn thing they want here as long as said post didn't violate the letter of the law.

Is this really the future of social platforms that we want here folks? Make no mistake, Trump's target is Twitter because it recently tagged two of his tweets as containing inaccuracies, but changing the CDA laws would most certainly affect you and me personally here on VN.

Trump is truly a mad man. This is insane.
 
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Nope. They are still modding

Huh? Please try to make coherent sentences.

Are you suggesting that mods here are still moderating forums? (obviously) Or are you suggesting that they will do the same moving forward regardless? If Trump has his way, you do understand that he wants to eliminate such moderation?
 
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I agree President Trump on this because Conservatives aren't being treated fairly by Facebook,Twitter and YouTube. This should be taken to the Supreme Court.
so you dont think a private business has the right to set it's own terms for use of its services?

If the demand is great enough just make a new social media platform where your opinions are tolerated. Free market solutions. You could get rich.
 
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I agree President Trump on this because Conservatives aren't being treated fairly by Facebook,Twitter and Youtube. This should be taken to the Supreme Court.

So you're good with folks saying basically ANYTHING they want on Volnation, and moderators having no right to remove offensive posts?
 
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Huh? Please try to make coherent sentences.

Are you suggesting that mods here are still moderating forums? (obviously) Or are you suggesting that they will do the same moving forward regardless? If Trump has his way, you do understand that he wants to eliminate such moderation?
I was being sarcastic.

Jumping straight to the anarchy.
 
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so you dont think a private business has the right to set it's own terms for use of its services?

If the demand is great enough just make a new social media platform where your opinions are tolerated. Free market solutions. You could get rich.

THIS. If Trump doesn't like Twitter, by all means - start something else. "Trumpster". Whatever. Trump and his merry band of merry morons can create the greatest echo chamber of pure, unadulterated lies and stupidity ever! Would LOVE to see this for amusement purposes only, naturally.
 
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THIS. If Trump doesn't like Twitter, by all means - start something else. "Trumpster". Whatever. Trump and his merry band of merry morons can create the greatest echo chamber of pure, unadulterated lies and stupidity ever! Would LOVE to see this for amusement purposes only, naturally.

Too late. Facebook has that covered.
 
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So you're good with folks saying basically ANYTHING they want on Volnation, and moderators having no right to remove offensive posts?
Ir's going to be great and very interesting when the Supreme Court sides with President Trump in probably a 5-4 ruling.
 
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I agree President Trump on this because Conservatives aren't being treated fairly by Facebook,Twitter and Youtube. This should be taken to the Supreme Court.
What law is being violated that would need interpretation by the ussc? I don't remember reading about fairness in the Constitution
 
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THIS. If Trump doesn't like Twitter, by all means - start something else. "Trumpster". Whatever. Trump and his merry band of merry morons can create the greatest echo chamber of pure, unadulterated lies and stupidity ever! Would LOVE to see this for amusement purposes only, naturally.
It is not one sided in the least. My friends are pretty much all more liberal than me, my peers are more liberal than me, my social media feeds are filled with the type of content that LG and EL conspicuously avoid on here.

In several threads we have cases of "conversatives" being edited, banned, or removed, because they dont meet the truth content set by facebook or twitter or wherever. Even if they back it up with video, direct quotes or whatever. Social media has enforced a set of non truth based politically correct standards on society. It's not about actually caring about what is true, but what is politically correct. And there is a huge gap between the two.
 
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Banning people,tweets and videos because the people who run Facebook,Twitter or Youtube don't like their political opinions is discrimination in my opinion.

It is. But should be allowed universally.

Monty is in an uproar here, funny thing is I am confident he is ok with other versions of discrimination.
 
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Banning people,tweets and videos because the people who run Facebook,Twitter or Youtube don't like their political opinions is discrimination in my opinion.
so you think identifying with a political party should make you a protected class? That should be fun

No more discriminatory than VN banning bama trolls for their idiocy. That's what would be illegal if your feels get to make laws
 
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Banning people,tweets and videos because the people who run Facebook,Twitter or Youtube don't like their political opinions is discrimination in my opinion.
Which they are free to do. Think about it this way, would you be within your rights to get someone to leave your business if they came and started speaking against your business? The answer is yes. Social media is a set of digital business. They can more or less police things as they see fit.

That's why I brought up that people just need to create their own Social media platform.

Its business baby.
 
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so you think identifying with a political party should make you a protected class? That should be fun

No more discriminatory than VN banning bama trolls for their idiocy. That's what would be illegal if your feels get to make laws
But feels have already been allowed to make laws. Not advocating for this but the line has already been blurred. I agree anything should be able to deny for any reason they want in a private business. But people's feels get in the way.
 

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