Trump Leading Witness Revenge Acts

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#177
BowlBrother85 said:
It is quite a statement that you think he did something wrong by complying with a subpoena. The question of whether or not his testimony was truthful doesn't seem to even be under consideration. He testified to some information that was damaging to dear leader and so that means he deserves whatever act of vengeance that Trump hands out. That is how an authoritarian state works, where the unconditional support and defense of the country's leadership is demanded, and all dissidents are punished with no regard for whether or not they have told the truth. The United States should be better than that.
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His testimony was just as bad as the rest. If you don’t know then stfu. Nobody cares about “I think”, “I feel”, “I believe”, or any other bs hearsay. Lol at the US should be better than that. Your feelings are hurt because of Trump so you’re for anything it takes to remove him. You don’t give a s*** about the partisan bs impeachment or the corrupt VP and kids laundering money from the Ukraine. Spare me the “honesty” and faux patriotic bs.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I didn't say that he couldn't. I just said that it makes Trump look vindictive, petty and small. Gordon Sondland donated $1 million to Trump. He was 1 of only 47 people to do so. He is not a Democrat or a "never Trumper".
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Ok lib did it make Obama look vindictive when he fired everyone? At the time it made me scratch my head but looking at it t it was genius. It was genius because if you put your people in place after a takeover you at least attempt to cover your interests with people at the time you feel you can trust. I know you understand what I am saying but I get that it's been a rough week for you.
 
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C-south said:
His testimony was just as bad as the rest. If you don’t know then stfu. Nobody cares about “I think”, “I feel”, “I believe”, or any other bs hearsay. Lol at the US should be better than that. Your feelings are hurt because of Trump so you’re for anything it takes to remove him. You don’t give a s*** about the partisan bs impeachment or the corrupt VP and kids laundering money from the Ukraine. Spare me the “honesty” and faux patriotic bs.
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You are a Trump fan boy and your posts reek of the unconditional support of a dishonest and very corrupt person.
 
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vols40 said:
Ok lib did it make Obama look vindictive when he fired everyone? At the time it made me scratch my head but looking at it t it was genius. It was genius because if you put your people in place after a takeover you at least attempt to cover your interests with people at the time you feel you can trust. I know you understand what I am saying but I get that it's been a rough week for you.
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It looks like all you guys can do is play "what-about-ism" and pretend that everyone else is just as bad as your dear leader. Trump is in a class by himself when it comes to being petty and vindictive, and completely guided by an enormous but fragile ego, which he must protect at all costs.
 
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volfanhill said:
When did I do any of that?
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Your implication that because the President fired an ambassador that he appointed meant that he wasn't draining the swamp.
He has fired the corrupt FBI director.
Asked Ukraine to look into election interference.
He is exposing the willing accomplises in the media.
There are a lot more instances that this outsider President is attempting to pull the reigns back on this massive cesspool that is Washington. At every turn there are thousands of obstacles in his path. Most of these obstacles in his path are career diplomatic hacks that not many people know.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It looks like all you guys can do is play "what-about-ism" and pretend that everyone else is just as bad as your dear leader. Trump is in a class by himself when it comes to being petty and vindictive, and completely guided by an enormous but fragile ego, which he must protect at all costs.
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No spin here I was serious when I asked did it make President Obama look vindictive? I even stated that I had a change of heart looking back now that he started with a clean slate. To make it simple you can just answer yes or no to the question.
No what about-ism just a question off your question.

Did I miss the news today? Are the libs and media using whataboutism today as a talking point?
 
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vols40 said:
Your implication that because the President fired an ambassador that he appointed meant that he wasn't draining the swamp.
He has fired the corrupt FBI director.
Asked Ukraine to look into election interference.
He is exposing the willing accomplises in the media.
There are a lot more instances that this outsider President is attempting to pull the reigns back on this massive cesspool that is Washington. At every turn there are thousands of obstacles in his path. Most of these obstacles in his path are career diplomatic hacks that not many people know.
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No, there aren't. Among the Donald Trump cabinet members who have engaged in either self-dealing or the extreme waste of taxpayer money include: former cabinet members Scott Pruitt, Tom Price and Ryan Zinke, as well as Wilbur Ross and Elaine Chao (who both still work in the administration).
 
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#184
vols40 said:
Your implication that because the President fired an ambassador that he appointed meant that he wasn't draining the swamp.
He has fired the corrupt FBI director.
Asked Ukraine to look into election interference.
He is exposing the willing accomplises in the media.
There are a lot more instances that this outsider President is attempting to pull the reigns back on this massive cesspool that is Washington. At every turn there are thousands of obstacles in his path. Most of these obstacles in his path are career diplomatic hacks that not many people know.
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3/4 of what you just said was nonsense. And everyone one of us should say what he did with Ukraine was wrong and a abuse of power. Doesn’t rise to justifying removing a president. Censure would have been the correct course of action. How do you reconcile your beliefs with the fact that every adult in his admin said deuces to him? Tillerson, Mattis, Kelley? Everyone one of them has hinted that he he’s a POS and are just waiting until he’s out of office to tell all. They were hero’s for Trump and his supporters. Now scum bags bc they are closest to him and say they can’t be around it? Come on.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
No, there aren't. Among the Donald Trump cabinet members who have engaged in either self-dealing or the extreme waste of taxpayer money include: former cabinet members Scott Pruitt, Tom Price and Ryan Zinke, as well as Wilbur Ross and Elaine Chao (who both still work in the administration).
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Name dropping with no evidence.....

Just another day at the office for you
 
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volfanhill said:
3/4 of what you just said was nonsense. And everyone one of us should say what he did with Ukraine was wrong and a abuse of power. Doesn’t rise to justifying removing a president. Censure would have been the correct course of action. How do you reconcile your beliefs with the fact that every adult in his admin said deuces to him? Tillerson, Mattis, Kelley? Everyone one of them has hinted that he he’s a POS and are just waiting until he’s out of office to tell all. They were hero’s for Trump and his supporters. Now scum bags bc they are closest to him and say they can’t be around it? Come on.
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Ok first if your not a lib you have their talking points on point. Mattis and Kelly are from the Bolton group of all war all the time. President has been clear on his position concerning war for the sake of war.
Lastly if your not a lib then your and independent and they are closet libs.
 
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vols40 said:
Name dropping with no evidence.....

Just another day at the office for you
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I shouldn't have to tell you what former EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt was guilty of. There were a million things and unless you lived in a cave in 2018 you know what I'm talking about... and you can use Google just as well as I can. So, if you genuinely don't know what I'm talking about but are interested in learning about the controversies of those cabinet members I mentioned... you can look it up yourself.... and by the way, I started a thread on this forum involving Scott Pruitt and it went on for several months.... all of his misconduct is in that thread. You don't even have to leave this site to find it.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I shouldn't have to tell you what former EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt was guilty of. There were a million things and unless you lived in a cave in 2018 you know what I'm talking about... and you can use Google just as well as I can. So, if you genuinely don't know what I'm talking about but are interested in learning about the controversies of those cabinet members I mentioned... you can look it up yourself.... and by the way, I started a thread on this forum involving Scott Pruitt and it went on for several months.... all of his misconduct is in that thread. You don't even have to leave this site to find it.
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Lol. I'm still not tired of all this winning.
 
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vols40 said:
Ok first if your not a lib you have their talking points on point. Mattis and Kelly are from the Bolton group of all war all the time. President has been clear on his position concerning war for the sake of war.
Lastly if your not a lib then your and independent and they are closet libs.
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Umm Trump appointed them and championed them. So what the hell are you talking about. Then you brought up Bolton. Which makes no sense. Yea he’s a **** bag. But who gave him a job?
 
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#191
#191
Trump is getting carried away with his rhetoric. If he's not careful, he's gonna step in it. It's his prerogative to remove the Vindman Brothers and Sondland, but he needs to be careful with where he's going.
 
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Weezer said:
Trump is getting carried away with his rhetoric. If he's not careful, he's gonna step in it. It's his prerogative to remove the Vindman Brothers and Sondland, but he needs to be careful with where he's going.
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What are they going to do impeach him again? He is doing the right thing. Just because he doesn’t sugar coat things doesn’t mean he is going in the wrong direction.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
What are they going to do impeach him again? He is doing the right thing. Just because he doesn’t sugar coat things doesn’t mean he is going in the wrong direction.
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If he does something to warrant it, they will impeach him again. Acquittal doesn't give him carte blanche to go crazy. Like I said, removing the Vindman Brothers from the WH and recalling an ambassador are well within his purview. Some will argue retribution(and it is), but he's allowed to do it. But he needs to be careful where he goes from here. He needs to make sure what he does stays within bounds, and he needs to beware his rhetoric coming back to bite him in the ass. The smart politician acts without running off at the mouth, because words can come back to screw you over.
 
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Weezer said:
If he does something to warrant it, they will impeach him again. Acquittal doesn't give him carte blanche to go crazy. Like I said, removing the Vindman Brothers from the WH and recalling an ambassador are well within his purview. Some will argue retribution(and it is), but he's allowed to do it. But he needs to be careful where he goes from here. He needs to make sure what he does stays within bounds, and he needs to beware his rhetoric coming back to bite him in the ass. The smart politician acts without running off at the mouth, because words can come back to screw you over.
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That’s the thing. He’s not like other politicians. That’s why he has support and will win again.

And they didn’t have anything to warrant impeachment last time. That didn’t stop them.

Best thing to happen is take back the house and pick up a few seats in the senate. That will shut all this BS down.
 
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Jxn Vol said:
That’s the thing. He’s not like other politicians. That’s why he has support and will win again.

And they didn’t have anything to warrant impeachment last time. That didn’t stop them.

Best thing to happen is take back the house and pick up a few seats in the senate. That will shut all this BS down.
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He still has to stay in bounds. His arrogance will lead to his downfall if he's not careful. He's riding an acquittal high thinking he's untouchable. That's not the case. He may be able to blur lines, but he can't outright erase them. Someone needs to reel him in a little bit.
 
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Weezer said:
He still has to stay in bounds. His arrogance will lead to his downfall if he's not careful. He's riding an acquittal high thinking he's untouchable. That's not the case. He may be able to blur lines, but he can't outright erase them. Someone needs to reel him in a little bit.
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He’s doing nothing out of bounds. That’s the the confusing thing for people. Just because he has swag doesn’t mean he is out of bounds.
 
#197
#197
Jxn Vol said:
He’s doing nothing out of bounds. That’s the the confusing thing for people. Just because he has swag doesn’t mean he is out of bounds.
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He's threatening political reprisals. That's not a good look. Doesn't mean he can't strike back, but he shouldn't be announcing it.
 
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Weezer said:
He's threatening political reprisals. That's not a good look. Doesn't mean he can't strike back, but he shouldn't be announcing it.
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You haven’t read The Art of the Deal.
Just watch. It will be alright.
 
#200
#200
volfanhill said:
Would you really be that surprised if a number of Bernie bro’s confused the two? It was dumb to say. But in terms of gaffes he’s got a long way to go before entering Trump/Biden territory. Now he really stepped in it with Dems regarding Transexuals two years ago. That will bite him in the ass. I do think he has an outside shot of getting the nomination.
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Having interacted with a number of them, it absolutely would surprise me. Bernie’s online supporters are a vitriolic and conspiracy minded cult of personality, just like Trump’s, but they’re generally very knowledgeable about issues.

Initially I didn’t think Bloomberg meant they were confusing socialism with social media but learning about it on social media. I’m not certain but it makes more sense, contextually, that he’s saying they’re getting sold this ideal and aren’t familiar with western civ. I.e what happened in the Soviet Union, Cuba, Latin America and South America and everywhere else that socialism has been tried. I don’t know that it’s any more accurate that that’s what’s happening but that was my thought when I heard it.
 
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