Transfer Discussion

[HuntlandVolinColo]

I don't think it will make sense for JG to transfer if Dormady wins the job.

Think of this scenario. It appears as if the coaches will play him some early in the season. It's a great long term plan as a coaching staff because it, in my opinion, locks him in here.

If he did not transfer his path would look like this:

2017: FR-backup to Dormady
2018: SO- backup to Dormady
2019 & 2020 Starter

If he transferred after not winning the job:

2017: backup to Dormady
2018: sits a year due to transfer rule
2019 &2020: starts

It's the same outcome unless he moves down a division.

If he feels like he needs to transfer, he needs to either go to an FCS school or get his degree and be a grad transfer. I think CBJ will keep a special package of plays for him just in case he isn't the starter.

 

[volmandu]

Ideally Gurantano should stay even if he doesn't win the job. Dormady was a highly rated QB too who had offers from multiple big schools. He stayed as a back up for 2 years and patiently waited. So if Dormady wins, the smart thing to JG to do is build streghth and knowlege for 2 years as a back up. However, If JG wins, Dormady has no choice but to transfer as he only has 2 years of playing eligibility. He has already served his backup years.

 

[UTwick]

I don't think it will make sense for JG to transfer if Dormady wins the job.

Think of this scenario. It appears as if the coaches will play him some early in the season. It's a great long term plan as a coaching staff because it, in my opinion, locks him in here.

If he did not transfer his path would look like this:

2017: FR-backup to Dormady
2018: SO- backup to Dormady
2019 & 2020 Starter

If he transferred after not winning the job:

2017: backup to Dormady
2018: sits a year due to transfer rule
2019 &2020: starts

It's the same outcome unless he moves down a division.

This all is assuming that he wins the starting job when QD leaves. Good bet that he would. Hell, he might win starting position sometime this year. One never knows. I don't think Tony Romo saw his Waterloo coming last year.

 

[81Orange]

I can't see JG getting trapped in. He can count better than most of us and knows the transfer rules. I see him staying if he is neck and neck or ahead in the race otherwise I expect him to transfer.

I can't believe people are doubting if he could win a starting job elsewhere. Yes he can. He just has to pick the best situation to transfer into.

Dormandy looked really smooth in the OW game but neither QB was running and that may be his strength. I wish we had seen a real game. I am guessing the two QBs know the score.

I would like to see JG stay to see how it plays out. He could be exciting.

 

[fatal1]

JG wont be the starter until QD graduates.. but he redshirted.. he has 2 years to start for us when QD is gone.. it would be dumb for him to transfer

if you go back and watch dormandys throws all except 2 were to wide open receivers. even I could hit those.

 

[81Orange]

If JG ends the QB competition as the back what are his chances at getting in and winning the starting role due to injury. I looked for QB injury rates but could not find much. This article reports on 2013 where 14 starters went down and missed starts. 40% were season ending injuries. The overall injury rate was 80%. This was the year UT lost three QBs and Dobbs our 4 took the field. A more normal injury rate is about 40%. The backup has. 40% chance of getting a start.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.outk...d-starts-this-year-what-gives-120413.amp.html

 

[LWSVOL]

I don't think it will make sense for JG to transfer if Dormady wins the job.

Think of this scenario. It appears as if the coaches will play him some early in the season. It's a great long term plan as a coaching staff because it, in my opinion, locks him in here.

If he did not transfer his path would look like this:

2017: FR-backup to Dormady
2018: SO- backup to Dormady
2019 & 2020 Starter

If he transferred after not winning the job:

2017: backup to Dormady
2018: sits a year due to transfer rule
2019 &2020: starts

It's the same outcome unless he moves down a division.

if he transfers, it would happen in August IMO. he wouldn't wait another year.

 

[Enki_Amenra]

QD threw 10 passes in a no-pressure, non-contact spring scrimmage and has been anointed the next Vol AA QB. Holy crap VN. He'll be good maybe even great, but there is quite a stretch from a partial spring game performance to All-American QB.

The coaches put almost 0 stock into spring game performances. Whoever wins the starting job will do so in the next several months, not the last few of weeks.

Remember, JG hasn't taken a single live snap in a college game. He will see game action early and often this year, if he's not the starter. The coaches will get him real game experience and develop him properly. The coaches and JG know they have the luxury of developing him into a great QB without being pressured into a situation that's bad for the individual player or the team as a whole. It would be nice if VN realized this too and just enjoyed the creation of a great QB, instead of freaking-out over a non-issue. . . but I guess it wouldn't be a VN off-season then.

 

[jarnol32]

I do agree Dormady is being over-hyped right now. He does not look like a winning SEC QB at all to me. See more potential in JG but as a RS freshman, he has no reps.

If we had a decent OL, I would start JG. But with our OL of the past few years, starting Dormady is probably the right move today.

How do you come to the conclusion that a guy who went 10 for 10 in the spring game, and had offers from Alabama, and Texas is not an sec caliber qb.? This may be one of the dumbest posts I've read on here. You have only seen limited reps from both qbs, so to say that either guy is not sec caliber is ignorant.

 

[sechamp2012]

I can't see JG getting trapped in. He can count better than most of us and knows the transfer rules. I see him staying if he is neck and neck or ahead in the race otherwise I expect him to transfer.

I can't believe people are doubting if he could win a starting job elsewhere. Yes he can. He just has to pick the best situation to transfer into.

Dormandy looked really smooth in the OW game but neither QB was running and that may be his strength. I wish we had seen a real game. I am guessing the two QBs know the score.

I would like to see JG stay to see how it plays out. He could be exciting.

Mitch mustain was if not the top QB was in top 3 everybody wanted him. He didn't start at Arkansas transferred to USCw and never started and faded off. Everyone assumed he was starter from day one. You never know collehe and HS can be different animals.

 

[johnrlansford]

How do you come to the conclusion that a guy who went 10 for 10 in the spring game, and had offers from Alabama, and Texas is not an sec caliber qb.? This may be one of the dumbest posts I've read on here. You have only seen limited reps from both qbs, so to say that either guy is not sec caliber is ignorant.

What is ignorant is not letting him have his own opinion. Dormady hasn't done anything worth being excited about. HE threw a few good passes in a meaningless spring game, he had a few good passes last year but a few bad ones too.

It is too early to say Dormady or Guarantano can't be good QBs but a man can still have his own opinion can't he?

You need to read posts in the right context, the man wasn't making a guarantee or even a promise, what he simply said was He didn't feel like Dormady was a winning SEC QB, that is an opinion and he is free to that, even if your opinion doesn't agree!!!

 

[sameolvol]

QD threw 10 passes in a no-pressure, non-contact spring scrimmage and has been anointed the next Vol AA QB. Holy crap VN. He'll be good maybe even great, but there is quite a stretch from a partial spring game performance to All-American QB.

The coaches put almost 0 stock into spring game performances. Whoever wins the starting job will do so in the next several months, not the last few of weeks.

Remember, JG hasn't taken a single live snap in a college game. He will see game action early and often this year, if he's not the starter. The coaches will get him real game experience and develop him properly. The coaches and JG know they have the luxury of developing him into a great QB without being pressured into a situation that's bad for the individual player or the team as a whole. It would be nice if VN realized this too and just enjoyed the creation of a great QB, instead of freaking-out over a non-issue. . . but I guess it wouldn't be a VN off-season then.

:thumbsup:Bingo! This coaching staff's undoubtedly got both of these young men prepared for situations 1 & 2, and QD's situation is a great example for JG to follow. After watching QD's 10-in-a-row was, although not all that appreciated by some, not the only portion of his expertise that's impressive. Despite the talent needed, he's demonstrated his excellent prior coaching and his extreme coachability due to his amazing touch on the ball, his right-on timing and a mature presence in the pocket. Even though this was done in an exhibition game, the mechanics he displayed are outlandishly impressive. Imagine how incredibly developed JG will be by being "gently" taken through the process like QD has been. To '08: QD's definitely not overhyped. And...to all of you who're even imagining one of these two would consider transferring if they don't start this fall: Get over it. It ain't gonna' happen.:salute:

 

[mitzustu]

if you go back and watch dormandys throws all except 2 were to wide open receivers. even I could hit those.

Mental note: never listen to you again.

 

[mitzustu]

if he transfers, it would happen in August IMO. he wouldn't wait another year.

He won't transfer in August. Why would the coaches not carry the QB comp to Indiana State and have him play two games. It essentially insures that he stays IMO

 

[1982Alum]

If you had been keeping up, our OL is the strength of the offense this year. Probably the single best unit on either side of the ball. Please check your facts.

Laughable. This is because some biased piece of journalism says it is so or is it based on actuak field play that hasn't happened yet?

 

[catss350]

Laughable. This is because some biased piece of journalism says it is so or is it based on actuak field play that hasn't happened yet?

Are you even a UT fan? You don't always have to be super positive, but you don't have to be taking a dump on the VOLS every chance you get either. IMHO. Either way, hope you have a great day!

 

[1982Alum]

Are you even a UT fan? You don't always have to be super positive, but you don't have to be taking a dump on the VOLS every chance you get either. IMHO. Either way, hope you have a great day!

Reality is something VOL football fans lack. especially in the off season like now. They all seem to feel we are headed to a wondrous record after we just under achieved last year yet again and lost more talent than we have replaced them with.

To suggest our OL will be a strength this year I think is a HUGE stretch based on the way they have played the last few years. Certainly if they are the strongest group on this squad this fall, then we are in for a very long painful season.

 

[TNnative]

Dormady has already red-shirted, right??? Wasn't he behind Dobbs & Peterman for a year???

No, Dormady has not red shirted.

 

[TNnative]

JG wont be the starter until QD graduates.. but he redshirted.. he has 2 years to start for us when QD is gone.. it would be dumb for him to transfer

So what if it is dumb? It is the 21st century, doing something dumb is his God given right. Player transfers are happening more and more every year. As for QBs, they play or leave.

If Dormady starts, they can still have a package for Guarantano. Much like Tebow had for Florida before he started there.

If he sits this year, I expect him to not be here next year.

 

[rocytop2624]

Dormady has already red-shirted, right??? Wasn't he behind Dobbs & Peterman for a year???

No he had to be the # 2 guy his true freshman year cause off Peterman and Ferguson leaving.

 

[jarnol32]

if you go back and watch dormandys throws all except 2 were to wide open receivers. even I could hit those.

Come on man! Dobbs had trouble hitting wide open receivers at different points throughout his career...

 

[LWSVOL]

He won't transfer in August. Why would the coaches not carry the QB comp to Indiana State and have him play two games. It essentially insures that he stays IMO

doesn't matter how long they carry it, he will know where he stands and if injury is the only way he starts. He may not be willing to play that way for 2 more years. I don't know that but he will totally understand the landscape no matter what coaches are saying.

Assuming QD continues to ball out like he has. Right now, he is a slam dunk to start..

 

[rockytop36]

some of you are crazy... i mean like bat s*** crazy haha.... its rare a guy comes in and starts as a fresh or reshirt fresh.... i think JG stays and knew he might have to sit for 2 years and i like the logical ones on here agree that 10-10 is good at anytime!!! wide open or not still made great decisions and shoewd poise while making his progressions nicely.. and i think you will still see some sort of package for JG would start i believe its QD's to lose.... all said GO BIG ORANGE!!

 

[UTandUNC]

I do agree Dormady is being over-hyped right now. He does not look like a winning SEC QB at all to me. See more potential in JG but as a RS freshman, he has no reps.

If we had a decent OL, I would start JG. But with our OL of the past few years, starting Dormady is probably the right move today.

Do you ever see anything positive? Jeez...

 

[UTandUNC]

Reality is something VOL football fans lack. especially in the off season like now. They all seem to feel we are headed to a wondrous record after we just under achieved last year yet again and lost more talent than we have replaced them with.

To suggest our OL will be a strength this year I think is a HUGE stretch based on the way they have played the last few years. Certainly if they are the strongest group on this squad this fall, then we are in for a very long painful season.

The only thing long and painful is your ridiculous posts.