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SpaceCoastVol said:
Yeah, you are so enlightened.:whistling:

Steely Dan and Elvis Costello's music will be around long after your one (if that) hit wonders are long forgotten.
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I love Elvis Costello and Steely Dan is alright. Those were the only ones I liked that were mentioned, save Hank Williams Sr.

Though your reasoning is crap. People will remember Nickelback as one of the most commercially successful rock bands of the 21st century whereas someone like Scott Walker (the artist, not the politician) is already forgotten despite making some of the most critically acclaimed records through the 60's, 70's, and 80's.

Trust, if in nothing else, that there's absolutely nothing YOU can teach ME about music.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
I love Elvis Costello and Steely Dan is alright. Those were the only ones I liked that were mentioned, save Hank Williams Sr.

Though your reasoning is crap. People will remember Nickelback as one of the most commercially successful rock bands of the 21st century whereas someone like Scott Walker (the artist, not the politician) is already forgotten despite making some of the most critically acclaimed records through the 60's, 70's, and 80's.

Trust, if in nothing else, that there's absolutely nothing YOU can teach ME about music.
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I'm not trying to teach you anything there, Beethoven. I do find it interesting that you speak about "commercial" success. I guess that is one way to define "good" music, but it is difficult for me to get on the cRAP train when 99% of that "music" is stolen from other artists, yet is wildly successfully (commercially speaking that is). Critical acclaim is another interesting yardstick too. There is a lot of critically acclaimed literature out there that is garbage imho. Music is no different. I'll give this Walker guys a listen and see what trips your trigger about him. (See, I can be fair too)

Point is, music is in the ear of the beholder, and your statement that the Deftones are (sic) garbage is nothing more than your opinion. (God help me I defended -8188)
 
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Obsessed said:
Loudervol is going to finish your schooling. Pay attention.
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Obsessed said:
When was the last time you were in school?

College, Highschool, etc?
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women's logic. Honey there was a sale, I saved 60%. no you spent 40%. To start here is a question I honestly don't know the answer to, when colorado legalized did they wipe away records, and let people out of jail who were there? point being they could easily still be spending money on people who are in jail for crimes related to pot. Secondly, the use/sale/growth/processing is legal. you do something stupid while high, because you are high (DUI, getting the munchies and eating a bag of Doritos, or twelve, in the store and walking out without paying) those are still crimes related to pot. to go along with any still existing violent crimes (robbery, assault etc etc) so people are still going to jail because of pot. therefore the state is still spending money on it. Third, with the increase in emergency responses to marijuana usage, be it cops, firemen or whatever, the state is still covering that cost (some government is). Where did your 60 million dollar figure come from? Its higher than the savings that i would imagine, but i think both numbers in this case are made up. and that still doesn't cover the last point. Fourth Colorado excepted to bring in 100 million dollars from pot sale. They only got 31. I would think the state would have factored in the "60 million" dollars in savings when thinking about these things so that should be, imo, a non-factor in this discussion of loss because it was accounted elsewhere. fifth 100 million - 31 million = 69 million. 69 million - "60 million in saving" = 9 million. that is still 9 million of money that Colorado does not have to balance their budget that they were probably counting on. and those numbers don't account for the increases i talked about, other related crimes and responses.

*hmm. fail on my part quoting the right stuff.
 
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MercyPercy said:
2.27 pharmacy robberies per day across the entire country of 67,000 pharmacies. I'm sure you can do the math and figure out how likely you are to be in danger. Which was your original claim, that pharmacies are dangerous. Don't back down from it, you're going to have to ride that gaff to the end.

i said there are pharmacies in Buckhead Atlanta with cops guarding them. and i said they are about as safe as anywhere. not sure where i said i go to the local pharmacy, not in Buckhead, to get my weekly injection of lead from a 9mm.

Let's back this up all the way to the beginning, I'll be nice and help you out. I said that buying drugs legally would be safer than buying drugs in the streets. legally, like from a shop, that gets robbed more than anything else in the area? If i am going to a candy store that gets robbed A LOT, that inherently makes buying candy dangerousYou have not refuted this in any way. I compared it to going to a pharmacy. You then erroneously claimed that pharmacies were these super dangerous places, which I thought was pretty stupid right off the bat, but I decided to do some research and find out for myself. And of course, the numbers weren't that scary, as posted above.

I've already addressed the Colorado numbers. Again, if you're a simpleton and don't look at why they're being robbed, it looks bad. However, if you've able to grasp multiple concepts in your head at once, you can see why it's happening. It's happening because most of the places haven't had anywhere to store their cash, so the stores have been sitting on hundreds of thousands of dollars. The only reason that money is sitting there, waiting to be robbed, is because the federal government doesn't recognize the legality of marijuana in the states. We can easily see that the illegality of the substance is again causing crime, where legality would put an end to most of it. You've created your own self defeating argument. but the article specifies that local banks are taking the money. and that this hasn't drastically changed the circumstances of the robberies.



I don't think you have a clue what you are talking about. You made a dumb statement about the dangers of pharmacies, there are cops in pharmacies = pharmacies being dangerous?and then you tried to change the argument when I posted statistics that didn't make them seem so scary. You have provided nothing which demonstrates legalization is a failure, much less anything that demonstrates it's more of a failure than the epic blunder that is the war on drugs. this i can agree with

BTW, are you the guy I've argued with before who thought one line of coke was equal to like 50 beers? Jesus Christ, if that was you, I really have been wasting my time. It's hard to keep track.oh yeah that was me. and i said it from the beginning that 1. it was a made up system. 2. it is how I equate things i have no comprehension of. I have still yet to see a better "conversion" system so i am still using it as flawed as i admitted it was
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and seeing as how my original statement was that there are cops occupying pharmacies and you believe people are in danger from cops, seems like you would avoid those pharmacies for your own protection. me, i walk in, ignore them and go about my business and then calmly join the crowd watching the cop beat the minority that walked into the pharmacy. glad to see we turned another thread into a pot debate.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
I'm not trying to teach you anything there, Beethoven. I do find it interesting that you speak about "commercial" success. I guess that is one way to define "good" music, but it is difficult for me to get on the cRAP train when 99% of that "music" is stolen from other artists, yet is wildly successfully (commercially speaking that is). Critical acclaim is another interesting yardstick too. There is a lot of critically acclaimed literature out there that is garbage imho. Music is no different. I'll give this Walker guys a listen and see what trips your trigger about him. (See, I can be fair too)

Point is, music is in the ear of the beholder, and your statement that the Deftones are (sic) garbage is nothing more than your opinion. (God help me I defended -8188)
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I would never use commercial success as a yardstick, as most people have simple, unrefined tastes. It's no secret. This is why Taylor Swift, Lil Wayne, and Justin Bieber are all chart toppers. It's why Luke Bryan and Jason Aldean are the apex predators of country music right now.

I put some stock, however, in critical acclaim, but it's heavily dependent on the source. I prefer critics who were/are musicians, composers, or producers to some degree. As a musician, I hear songs differently than those who aren't. I hear time signatures, changes in tempo, changes in key, and the overall structure of a song. As a writer, I also listen to lyrical content (this makes it much easier to appreciate good hip hop).

Factoring in those things, most popular music is bland, unoriginal, and caters to simple ears. Sure, it has its role (I drink ****ty American "lite" beer at sporting events and camping trips, because it has its role as such), but I don't consider it good from an artistic standpoint. It takes no risks, and therefore, yields no progress.

If you listen to Scott, his first 4 solo albums are incredible, and anything with the Walker Bros. is outstanding. I'll admit that he got a little avant garde for my taste after the 80's. He kind of went insane.
 
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Sadly, another officer was shot and killed in Shreveport while responding to a domestic. Suspect is on the run and reportedly was already wanted for another homicide that occurred weeks earlier.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
I love Elvis Costello and Steely Dan is alright. Those were the only ones I liked that were mentioned, save Hank Williams Sr.

Though your reasoning is crap. People will remember Nickelback as one of the most commercially successful rock bands of the 21st century whereas someone like Scott Walker (the artist, not the politician) is already forgotten despite making some of the most critically acclaimed records through the 60's, 70's, and 80's.

Trust, if in nothing else, that there's absolutely nothing YOU can teach ME about music.
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You like those groups better than R5?
 
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davethevol said:
Punk's not generally my cup of tea, but it does have it's place. The Damned was pretty awesome.
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All punk? It covers so many subgenres and cultures.

I classify rock steady, reggae, and Ska as subgenres of punk music.

You ever listen to Buzzcocks or the Sonics?

Let's take this to the OT thread.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
All punk? It covers so many subgenres and cultures.

I classify rock steady, reggae, and Ska as subgenres of punk music.
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Most of the groups I grew up on were heavily influenced by punk, so I have an indirect interest in it. I'm not anti-punk.
 
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Jackazz cop just being a jackazz cop... How much more proof do you fools need to prove that the majority of cops (not all, but certainly over 50%) are trigger happy, power hungry jackazzes?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYONo5LeWDs[/youtube]
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Jackazz cop just being a jackazz cop... How much more proof do you fools need to prove that the majority of cops (not all, but certainly over 50%) are trigger happy, power hungry jackazzes?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYONo5LeWDs[/youtube]
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How can you even tell what was going on in that video?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Jackazz cop just being a jackazz cop... How much more proof do you fools need to prove that the majority of cops (not all, but certainly over 50%) are trigger happy, power hungry jackazzes?

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYONo5LeWDs[/youtube]
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Cop was a complete tool by pulling his gun.

I do question why the guy stated "you all have done enough to my family". Wouldn't it be worth while to know the background on this person or situation?
 
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