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volbeast33 said:
Nope....we need families that stay together and raise their children to be good citizens....We need to be allowed to punish our kids and hold them accountable when they do wrong. Our kids need to be taught how to handle failure so they can know how to work towards success. I am thankful that we have cops out there dealing with these issues though.
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Lost me at "we need to be allowed"

Perhaps we could have a few more laws, reckon that might do the trick? Maybe a few more regulations as well?
As far as kids go, you're the parent, raise them how you wish. I don't agree with physical violence (spanking) but that's me. I got the holy hell beat out of me as a kid, and I turned out ok. I'm not sure I'd raise my kids the way I come up though.

Regarding the article I posted. Nothing that kid could've done deserved the treatment he received. That cop should be looking out of a jail cell right now.
 
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volbeast33 said:
Nope....we need families that stay together and raise their children to be good citizens....We need to be allowed to punish our kids and hold them accountable when they do wrong. Our kids need to be taught how to handle failure so they can know how to work towards success. I am thankful that we have cops out there dealing with these issues though.
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We've been at war with both for decades now. You may recognize them better by their more popular names... The war on drugs and the war on poverty. And based off the numbers you posted, it looks like we're doing a spendid job on both. Let's keep it up boys. I'm sure victory is just around the corner.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
We've been at war with both for decades now. You may recognize them better by their more popular names... The war on drugs and the war on poverty. And based off the numbers you posted, it looks like we're doing a spendid job on both. Let's keep it up boys. I'm sure victory is just around the corner.
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How is the war on drugs and war on poverty hurting families?
 
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volbeast33 said:
It's true....Memphis had in one year:

124 murders
437 Rapes
3,133 Robberies
7,200 Aggravated Assaults

Im much more worried about the criminals than your outrage towards the police.....So far this year Chicago has 264 murders.....that is just two American cities with almost 400 murders.
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But by all means lets get rid of mandatory minimums. Also, you'll never ever see any media or dolts on here reporting or asking how many of these murdererers were on probation when they killed someone.
 
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volbeast33 said:
How is the war on drugs and war on poverty hurting families?
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The "war on drugs" crowd want their pot legalized. They use false analogies and incorporate straw man examples to argue their thoughts.

Again, I would support legalized pot. Pot only.
 
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tim said:
The "war on drugs" crowd want their pot legalized. They use false analogies and incorporate straw man examples to argue their thoughts.

Again, I would support legalized pot. Pot only.
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Tim, the "war on drugs" is lost and an immense waste of money.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Lost me at "we need to be allowed"

Perhaps we could have a few more laws, reckon that might do the trick? Maybe a few more regulations as well?
As far as kids go, you're the parent, raise them how you wish. I don't agree with physical violence (spanking) but that's me. I got the holy hell beat out of me as a kid, and I turned out ok. I'm not sure I'd raise my kids the way I come up though.

Regarding the article I posted. Nothing that kid could've done deserved the treatment he received. That cop should be looking out of a jail cell right now.
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Yeah I shouldn't have added "be allowed" in there....I wasn't referring to the article that you posted but I wouldn't have had a problem with a cop putting cuffs on my son if he was acting out like it seems like he was.
 
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LouderVol said:
HR lady at my office did one as well. said she never knew there were that many idiots out there when it came to cops.
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She's done 4 or 5 of them over the years, she offers free/reduced rent to PD to get them to live on her properties.

Couple of them she thought were showing off and harassing everyone and another she said probably wouldn't have gotten out of the car to stop a murder.
 
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tim said:
The "war on drugs" crowd want their pot legalized. They use false analogies and incorporate straw man examples to argue their thoughts.

Again, I would support legalized pot. Pot only.
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The war on drugs is a failure but I do feel most of these discussions revolve around pot and taxes.
 
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hog88 said:
She's done 4 or 5 of them over the years, she offers free/reduced rent to PD to get them to live on her properties.

Couple of them she thought were showing off and harassing everyone and another she said probably wouldn't have gotten out of the car to stop a murder.
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Our HR lady just talked about how everyone was rude in general to the cop, this was going through some rough areas of Atlanta.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Doesn't sound like a ringing endorsement for the boys in blue. They don't appear to be doing a very good job preventing crime.
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PreCrime division?
Minority Report?

They should definitely be able to fill in the gaps for the decline of nuclear families, fathers in prison or gone or dead. Yeah, that's the cops job.
 
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volbeast33 said:
explain
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they think an unemployed pot head sitting on the couch all day is better than an unemployed pot head head sitting in a jail cell. and to an extent they are correct. they don't want to address why these guys became pot heads and how those negatives still exist in or out of jail.
 
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LouderVol said:
they think an unemployed pot head sitting on the couch all day is better than an unemployed pot head head sitting in a jail cell. and to an extent they are correct. they don't want to address why these guys became pot heads and how those negatives still exist in or out of jail.
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that was my point......its about personal responsibility and the blame is on the individual and not anyone else around them.
 
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volbeast33 said:
that was my point......its about personal responsibility and the blame is on the individual and not anyone else around them.
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The true position of personal responsibility is allowing people to decide for themselves what they want to put in their own bodies without threat of imprisonment. You can't claim to be for personal responsibility if you are against that freedom, which is a personal decision. So, by invoking the "personal responsibility" argument over and over again, you're only consistently exposing how you don't really understand that governmental control over such things is the antithesis of holding people responsible for their own actions, and instead, making the government responsible, which is how they continue to gain more and more power over civilians.
 
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MercyPercy said:
The true position of personal responsibility is allowing people to decide for themselves what they want to put in their own bodies without threat of imprisonment. You can't claim to be for personal responsibility if you are against that freedom, which is a personal decision. So, by invoking the "personal responsibility" argument over and over again, you're only consistently exposing how you don't really understand that governmental control over such things is the antithesis of holding people responsible for their own actions, and instead, making the government responsible, which is how they continue to gain more and more power over civilians.
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You are taking it out of context....we were discussing crime rates in major cities and I feel the problem is with the individual citizens and not the police....Do you feel that doing away with drug laws or laws in general would help decrease the amount of murders or other violent crimes committed in Chicago or Memphis?
 
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volbeast33 said:
You are taking it out of context....we were discussing crime rates in major cities and I feel the problem is with the individual citizens and not the police....Do you feel that doing away with drug laws or laws in general would help decrease the amount of murders or other violent crimes committed in Chicago or Memphis?
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Yes. It would drastically reduce the drug related violence. Similar to ending prohibition. Why would it be any different?
 
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volbeast33 said:
You are taking it out of context....we were discussing crime rates in major cities and I feel the problem is with the individual citizens and not the police....Do you feel that doing away with drug laws or laws in general would help decrease the amount of murders or other violent crimes committed in Chicago or Memphis?
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Absolutely. How many times has buying groceries ended in a shoot out for you? If you legitimize the business, these things no longer occur.
 
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When was the last time Budweiser and Miller got in a shootout? When was the last time the Budweiser truck driver shot a LEO while pulled over?
 
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The massive amount of corruption and violence surrounding alcohol prohibition basically disappeared overnight when it was repealed.
 
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