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Ironic thread.
I got behind a "student driver" on the interstate the other day. She put her blinker on just to scoot over in the lane she was in.

Poor thing looked terrified.
 
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stonevols said:
Was he right to "order" her out of the car after her perceived defiance?

YUP!!!!

Pennsylvania v. Mimms, a 1977 U.S. Supreme Court decision, says it's reasonable and not a violation of the Fourth Amendment for an officer to order a motorist to exit their vehicle following a traffic stop and conduct a pat-down to check for weapons.



Looks like she became a 'radical cop hater' explains her attitude and we all know who drove that idea!
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Please enlighten us, who drove that idea.
 
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stonevols said:
Any order that doesn’t violate specified Civil Rights and doesn’t otherwise violate another State or Federal law is considered a lawful order. That is the limit of his authority. He did not ask her to do anything that is prohibited by law so his requests were lawful orders. She was required by law to comply even if she didn’t agree with it or like it.

She "CHOSE" to be combative and resist!


I’m not going to defend "everything" the cop said or did, but the whole episode would have played out entirely differently if she had been cooperative, non- confrontational, and respectful from the start. Smart people do not pick fights with cops.
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She didn't resist. She asked logical questions about why he wanted her to put out get cigarette etc. He hardly waited 5 seconds before pulling his tazer. He could just as easily say "ma'am, I can see you are upset. I'm going to let you finish your smoke and then I'll explain everything." Instead he chose to escalate because he wasn't getting the respect he felt she should be showing him.

Btw, I'm white also, and the son of a cop. In my view smart people should question the police when they are in the wrong.
 
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I got in a verbal disagreement with a Texas Trooper about changing lanes without signaling. He won.
 
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YorkVol said:
Btw, I'm white also, and the son of a cop. In my view smart people should question the police when they are in the wrong.
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You question them in the court room...her lawyer could have got the video!

She was in the wrong, shes the one that made illegal lane change and then refused LE order

She could have just as easily, said yes sir no sir took her warning for the lane change and went on


What did he do that was wrong?
 
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I'll say this, living in Birmingham people here are completely unaware that a turn signal exists.

Agree with York, if you can safely change lanes with no one around you, so be it.
 
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YorkVol said:
It is, but it shouldn't be. If there isn't anyone within a few hundred feet you should be able to change lanes as often as you want without signaling.
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LOL fool

Run a stop sign too.. If there isn't anyone within a few hundred feet


Ever heard of a blind spot? Most cars have them so you signal
 
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I told the wife tonight it's a TN law in using the blinker to change lanes at all times and she didn't know it was and she supposes to know everything.
 
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FLVOL69 said:
Fla too
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I don't know about fl but in TN any reasonable judge is gonna rule that if you don't signal when you cross back over a single white line after your passed a "Trooper" that was stopped>>>>>there would certainly be no
reasonable suspicion!!!!!!!!!!
 
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stonevols said:
You question them in the court room...her lawyer could have got the video!

She was in the wrong, shes the one that made illegal lane change and then refused LE order

She could have just as easily, said yes sir no sir took her warning for the lane change and went on


What did he do that was wrong?
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If you can sit and watch that video and have to ask what the cop did wrong, I'm not sure anyone here can explain it in terms that you would understand. Wait, are you a cop?
 
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