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Rasputin_Vol said:
Also, there need to be some clear guidelines on when a person should have to get out of their cars. From what we've seen lately, they seem to think they can ask you out the car for any reason.
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Unless you try and get out, at which point they tell you to stay in the car.
 
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FLVOL69 said:
I don't agitate the police if I'm asked to do something, within reason of course.
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The police officer was the one doing the agitating. He could have walked up to the car and gave her the ticket and none of this would have occurred. Only times she spoke were in response to questions he asked. She wasn't yelling or using profanity. Then he told her to put out her cigarette.

Why would he would he insist on that other than to "agitate" her?
 
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Dr Dread said:
The police officer was the one doing the agitating. He could have walked up to the car and gave her the ticket and none of this would have occurred. Only times she spoke were in response to questions he asked. She wasn't yelling or using profanity. Then he told her to put out her cigarette.

Why would he would he insist on that other than to "agitate" her?
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I dunno, maybe the stench? Cigarettes smell like ****ing Shiite.
 
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She didn't get on her hands and knees and lick his boots like everybody else does and he didn't like it. It's really that simple. She certainly wasn't pleasant but she was by no means confrontational. He asked her a question and she answered honestly. That's when he escalates things.

All I can say is that if I was that officer, I'd be incredibly ashamed of that video going public. Let's just say that two word phrase (first word starts with f and second with p)she kept using to describe him couldn't be more fitting.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The forensics in the Eric Garner case said he died of obesity and akward posittioning...
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I still say using that rationale to defend the cops would analogous to knocking over a massive display of dominoes and claiming all you did was knock over the first one. You'd be literally correct but it wouldn't change the fact that the display getting knocked over was still your fault. Eric Gatner's health was like that row of dominoes. Anything could bring the whole thing down but he also could've live another 20 years if left alone.

Also where do we draw the line there? If a cop withholds insulin from a person who's a type 1 diabetic, is it the cop's or the diabetes' fault when the guy goes into DKA and dies?
 
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Dr Dread said:
The police officer was the one doing the agitating. He could have walked up to the car and gave her the ticket and none of this would have occurred. Only times she spoke were in response to questions he asked. She wasn't yelling or using profanity. Then he told her to put out her cigarette.

Why would he would he insist on that other than to "agitate" her?
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Maybe he doesn't like cigarette smoke blowing in his face while he's dealing with someone. I don't blame him.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
Maybe he doesn't like cigarette smoke blowing in his face while he's dealing with someone. I don't blame him.
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In that case he has two far more reasonable options. He could (a) have simply left her alone in the first place since she did nothing wrong and it wouldn't be an issue or (b) go to the passenger window.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
Maybe he doesn't like cigarette smoke blowing in his face while he's dealing with someone. I don't blame him.
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That's a bit of a reach. What you are doing is trying to defend the indefensible.

It is not within his authority to compel her comply. He can ask, but she has the right to refuse. Same applies with his request for her to get out of the car. It goes beyond the reach of his authority.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
In that case he has two far more reasonable options. He could (a) have simply left her alone in the first since she did nothing wrong and it would be an issue or (b) go to the passenger window.
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He had a legitimate reason to pull her over. He made a reasonable request. She's the one who got belligerent. No doubt he overreacted at that point. The fact is though that if she had simply complied with a very reasonable request she would have been on her way with a simple warning.
 
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I was wrong. He actually had three options. I'll be the first to admit that she probably wouldn't have done it more but he could have just nicely asked her to put it out if it was bothering him
 
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My question is why the cop approached the driver side window on his return visit? He went to passenger side first? Why not go back to the passenger side?
 
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Cdywolfe said:
Some people just love the taste of boot.
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That's the problem with some of these cops. They think they're more important than they actually are. I shouldn't have to fear having my face kicked in or choked to death or shot to death for not showing the utmost respect. Yeah some cops may be under appreciated, but guess what, so are millions of other professions out there every single day. You don't see them shooting people point blank for standing on a sidewalk. **** cops and **** those who defend this ****.
 
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There is something that bothers me about that video as well. Notice he placed her out of view of the dashcam. He's learned a lot in his year of disservice. Basically it sets up a citizens word vs a cop in the court room. As we know this forms a triad against the accused, as all the people against the citizen work for the same employer (the state)
Fight the ticket? Yeah right...

Notice how his story quickly fell apart once the footage was released.
 
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