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YorkVol said:
This is a good article on some efforts to change the pattern:

One year after Eric Garner's death, a quest for path out of 'police-community hostility' - CSMonitor.com

The argument on both sides summarized by participants:




cops & kids | All Stars Project, Inc.
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What's wrong with filming an encounter with law enforcement? Every time someone is pulled over, the police car is filming. Technology now allows citizenry to do our own recording to protect our own rights.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
What's wrong with filming an encounter with law enforcement? Every time someone is pulled over, the police car is filming. Technology now allows citizenry to do our own recording to protect our own rights.
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Not a thing. But some people just cannot handle how brutal some arrests appear and think that Leo's should have mattresses and magical handcuffs.
 
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tim said:
Not a thing. But some people just cannot handle how brutal some arrests appear and think that Leo's should have mattresses and magical handcuffs.
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The quote... The officer, in describing the development of their 'us against them' mentality, mentioned:

They’ve been in so many situations where they didn’t get the respect back that they expected, or somebody cursed them out for no reason, or they were filmed for no reason, for doing something that was legitimate and right. So, their personality changes, where, ‘OK, now it’s “us versus them,” and I’m not even going to try to give anybody any respect,’ or anything like that.
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So, filming an encounter is akin to cursing and disrespecting? Hey, I can understand getting tired of the drama. But really? Getting a chip on the shoulder because someone is doing what you do to them every time you pull them over?
 
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Orange_Crush said:
What's wrong with filming an encounter with law enforcement? Every time someone is pulled over, the police car is filming. Technology now allows citizenry to do our own recording to protect our own rights.
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Yeah, I thought that was an interesting complaint. I don't see anything wrong with filming any public official during the course of their duties. That would include police, EMT, fire fighters, city workers, elected officials etc. If they are on the job they are subject to being filmed so we can review their actions any time we want.
 
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YorkVol said:
Yeah, I thought that was an interesting complaint. I don't see anything wrong with filming any public official during the course of their duties. That would include police, EMT, fire fighters, city workers, elected officials etc. If they are on the job they are subject to being filmed so we can review their actions any time we want.
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Its almost human nature to despise being filmed or photographed without permission. You see it in Hollywood and with famous persons routinely. Training is catching up to technology.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Time to rein in California's traffic ticket surcharges - LA Times
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In fact, about 80% of what Californians pay for their moving violations isn't part of the base fine at all, but is necessary to cover the many assessments and surcharges tacked on over the years to pay for state and county government operations that have nothing to do with cars or driving.

These add-ons have raised billions of dollars over the five decades since the first assessment was levied on traffic tickets, a modest 5% charge to fund driver education programs in schools. But enthusiasm for this seemingly bottomless funding source has gone too far. Tickets are now so expensive that people are increasingly not paying them even though the alternative is the loss of a driver's license or jail time.
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Tyranny...
 
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Ughhh, then don't get a ticket. Pretty simple. I'm 38, had 1 speeding ticket at 17. Nothing since. Nothing, not even a parking ticket.

As for the add-ons it's the citizenry who is responsible for the trash they continually put into office and elect, and the lack of involvement or care of said citizenry that allows the bureaucracy to run stupid. Tyranny..., no. Dumb dbag Californians, yes.
 
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But wait... I thought all he intended to do was give her a warning? What happened to that BS?

I swear, this video can't be explained away by these cops. You give somebody a ticket then ask them why they are upset? Then you want to drag them out of their car for not putting out their cigarette... Really?

To me, this puts even more doubt in my mind about if she even should have been pulled over in the first place. An illegal lane change? Weak sauce by this cop.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Video shows how traffic stop escalated into confrontation | www.statesman.com
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A law enforcement expert from Maryland said he was troubled by the video "from start to finish."

Vernon Herron, a senior policy analyst with the University of Maryland Center for Health and Homeland Security, said if the trooper intended to give her a warning, that's what he should have done, no matter what the woman said to him.

"A person's attitude or their demeanor is not probable cause to make an arrest," said Herron, who has more than 35 years of experience in public safety and law enforcement.
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What was the reason for having her get out the car? What crime had she committed by not putting out her cigarette? Was she threatening to use the cigarette as a weapon and burn him?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
The sad part is that had we not had the video, it would be the cops word over the citizen's.
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Indeed. I'd like to know if there are cameras inside the jail, to see if someone entered her cell.
Completely outrageous that she was even pulled over for failing to signal, they were the only ones on that stretch of road for at least 300 or 400 yards if not further, from the video. But that cop roach was only on the job a year, and I bet it was quota time in prairie view.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
What was the reason for having her get out the car? What crime had she committed by not putting out her cigarette? Was she threatening to use the cigarette as a weapon and burn him?
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He got upset that she didn't recognize his authority. Then he decides to threaten her with the taser. What a guy...
All for failing to signal a lane change, good grief.
Of course the apologists will arrive and say if she'd complied with the lawful "command" of the officer none of this would've happened.

Sooner or later they will realize this is all about revenue. Nothing more, nothing less.

Your money, or your life.
 
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We have a lot of police officer adulation in this country. Many of them are sociopaths on power trips.
 
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Take back everything I said on this. Video shows a bad cop doing things that weren't warranted. Agreed that he should be let go.

Man enough to admit when I was wrong.
 
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Meanwhile, the prison industrial complex is expected to grow in Tennessee.

Tennessee may extend prison sentences

A task force appointed by Gov. Bill Haslam to look at prison sentencing is considering recommendations for longer prison terms.

The enhanced penalties under consideration would boost the prison population in Tennessee by 4 percent over a five-year period, according to a report by Vera Institute of Justice. The discussion is occurring as the state already has prisons at capacity, is struggling to control incarceration costs and is dealing with a shortage of correctional officers.

It is also being considered as Corrections Corporation of America expands its footprint in Tennessee.
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Indeed. I'd like to know if there are cameras inside the jail, to see if someone entered her cell.
Completely outrageous that she was even pulled over for failing to signal, they were the only ones on that stretch of road for at least 300 or 400 yards if not further, from the video. But that cop roach was only on the job a year, and I bet it was quota time in prairie view.
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From what I read, there are cameras that at least had a view of the cell, but for her "privacy" there are lapses in time. I'm guessing they killed her and then tried to cover it up by making it looked like she hung herself. At this point, I'd think this is a murder case unless it can be proven she did hang herself.
 
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