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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Are you speaking of my link?
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Did you post another one speaking of cops blindly following orders like Nazi concentration camp guards in recent memory?

Let me ask you this, do I seem like the kind of person who would visit violence on an individual for no other reason than "following orders?"

ETA: Before you say I couldn't have read it all in the time you posted, I speed read.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Did you post another one speaking of cops blindly following orders like Nazi concentration camp guards in recent memory?

Let me ask you this, do I seem like the kind of person who would visit violence on an individual for no other reason than "following orders?"
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You used to be a cop didn't you? There's your answer.
Instead of being offended and Butthurt by the truth, why don't you think about the things in the article a while.
If you use force against someone who is not using force or fraud, you are in fact a thug. Doesn't matter if you call it "the law" or not.


You have very strong cognitive dissonance on these matters.
 
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#7,134
DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
You used to be a cop didn't you? There's your answer.
Instead of being offended and Butthurt by the truth, why don't you think about the things in the article a while.
If you use force against someone who is not using force or fraud, you are in fact a thug. Doesn't matter if you call it "the law" or not.


You have very strong cognitive dissonance on these matters.
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Oh, I'm not offended in the least. Far from it actually. And I really don't think that article is going to change my opinion in the least. "There are no good cops." And exactly what am I supposed to think about when said author compared law enforcement to Nazi death camp guards? Completely ignoring the fact that of the seven hundred thousand or more cops in this country very few rarely ever use force, much less excessive force, on the job?

But obviously each and every one of the individuals in this country with general arrest powers is a JBT waiting to kill someone without mercy. User of drugs? Kill them. Jewish? Kill them. I can see the similarities.

It strikes a chord in your loins with the whole An-Cap thing. I understand that and know you're hampered by that mindset. It's okay, I don't hold it against you.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Oh, I'm not offended in the least. Far from it actually. And I really don't think that article is going to change my opinion in the least. "There are no good cops." And exactly what am I supposed to think about when said author compared law enforcement to Nazi death camp guards? Completely ignoring the fact that of the seven hundred thousand or more cops in this country very few rarely ever use force, much less excessive force, on the job?

But obviously each and every one of the individuals in this country with general arrest powers is a JBT waiting to kill someone without mercy. User of drugs? Kill them. Jewish? Kill them. I can see the similarities.

It strikes a chord in your loins with the whole An-Cap thing. I understand that and know you're hampered by that mindset. It's okay, I don't hold it against you.
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Haha there's that CD again.

Force is used when writing citations for victimless crimes like speeding or any other myriad of completely arbitrary commands that are handed down by the ruling class.
It's not just physical force. It's also extortion which every cop participants in daily.
But thats "the law" right? Lol it is what it is GV.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Haha there's that CD again.

Force is used when writing citations for victimless crimes like speeding or any other myriad of completely arbitrary commands that are handed down by the ruling class.
It's not just physical force. It's also extortion which every cop participants in daily.
But thats "the law" right? Lol it is what it is GV.
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Your idea of force and mine are worlds apart.

We obviously will have to revisit how speeding isn't as victimless a crime as you think.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Your idea of force and mine are worlds apart.

We obviously will have to revisit how speeding isn't as victimless a crime as you think.
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It's force because it's backed up with a cage or a gun.

If I'm traveling on an interstate at 2am and the speed limit is 70, you clock me at 90, there are no other car on the road. What is the problem?

The way it becomes a crime is, if I wreck, injuring persons or property. By giving someone a ticket (ransom note) for failing to obey an arbitrary number on a sign is absurd, as well as extortion.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
It's force because it's backed up with a cage or a gun.

If I'm traveling on an interstate at 2am and the speed limit is 70, you clock me at 90, there are no other car on the road. What is the problem?

The way it becomes a crime is, if I wreck, injuring persons or property. By giving someone a ticket (ransom note) for failing to obey an arbitrary number on a sign is absurd, as well as extortion.
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Yet if you're driving 60 MPH in a residential area at 3 PM when kids are just getting out of school, that's not cause for concern?
 
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Grand Vol said:
Yet if you're driving 60 MPH in a residential area at 3 PM when kids are just getting out of school, that's not cause for concern?
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Not until the accident actually happens. No thinking person will do that, so your argument is moot. Do accidents happen? Yes, every day. The location does not matter, it's a crime only if persons or property is injured.
 
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It's like I tell everybody... You think traffic laws aren't enforced with violence? Then don't comply and see what happens. Your taxes are taken through threat of violence? Then don't pay them and see what happens.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
It's force because it's backed up with a cage or a gun.

If I'm traveling on an interstate at 2am and the speed limit is 70, you clock me at 90, there are no other car on the road. What is the problem?

The way it becomes a crime is, if I wreck, injuring persons or property. By giving someone a ticket (ransom note) for failing to obey an arbitrary number on a sign is absurd, as well as extortion.
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that makes zero sense.
 
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So enforcing traffic laws is now directly comparable to a wholesale genocide of a religious group and other "ethnically impure" races?

I never knew...
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
You used to be a cop didn't you? There's your answer.
Instead of being offended and Butthurt by the truth, why don't you think about the things in the article a while.
If you use force against someone who is not using force or fraud, you are in fact a thug. Doesn't matter if you call it "the law" or not.


You have very strong cognitive dissonance on these matters.
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wow.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
It's force because it's backed up with a cage or a gun.

If I'm traveling on an interstate at 2am and the speed limit is 70, you clock me at 90, there are no other car on the road. What is the problem?

The way it becomes a crime is, if I wreck, injuring persons or property. By giving someone a ticket (ransom note) for failing to obey an arbitrary number on a sign is absurd, as well as extortion.
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Bc u r putting others lives in danger by driving an excessive speed....I know u r trying to quantify it by saying no one else is on the road but u also believe that u shouldn't be cited for violating any traffic laws which is ridiculous.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Not until the accident actually happens. No thinking person will do that, so your argument is moot. Do accidents happen? Yes, every day. The location does not matter, it's a crime only if persons or property is injured.
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That's a libertarian pile of crap. The mere threat of harm to others as Well as oneself is the driving force behind plenty of just laws.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Yet if you're driving 60 MPH in a residential area at 3 PM when kids are just getting out of school, that's not cause for concern?
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No, in his mind it isn't until he kills one of those kids. It will be the fault of the parents that they didn't keep them on a shorter leash I guess.
 
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SpaceCoastVol said:
No, in his mind it isn't until he kills one of those kids. It will be the fault of the parents that they didn't keep them on a shorter leash I guess.
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No, you guys just think there should be a law for everything. When in reality that's the problem, we have entirely too many laws on the books as is.
A crime is commited when persons or property is damaged. How is that hard to understand?
 
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Cdywolfe said:
It's like I tell everybody... You think traffic laws aren't enforced with violence? Then don't comply and see what happens. Your taxes are taken through threat of violence? Then don't pay them and see what happens.
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Violence? Being put into prison is not an act of violence. What goes on in prison might be violent, but that is because people in prison revert to base animal levels. The mere act of a government placing you in prison is not violence. Or are you referring to a cop kicking your ass when they are trying to arrest you and you are trying to run away? Naaaaah. Somehow they don't have the right to arrest you I suppose?
 
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