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Grand Vol said:
I'd be willing to bet that's won on appeal.

My question is, how did they (eventually) find out about the owner 17 hours later?
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The incident happened back in 2011, if the owner hasn't received compensation by now, they're not going to I'd say.

No clue as to how they found out about the owner. Probably ran the vin number after things cooled off.
Chalk it up to more insanity of the war on drugs. Americas longest war.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
The incident happened back in 2011, if the owner hasn't received compensation by now, they're not going to I'd say.

No clue as to how they found out about the owner. Probably ran the vin number after things cooled off.
Chalk it up to more insanity of the war on drugs. Americas longest war.
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Nothing more recent? Are you digging back in history to get your outrage now? :)
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Hmm, interesting.
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And contrary to the belief of some, I do cross reference many of the articles posted in this thread and even use Google-fu to track down the source article or more info.

Not saying you're guilty, but others just post up one single completely biased article that's missing half the facts and expect us simpletons to accept it as gospel.

I'm not that dumb...
 
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Grand Vol said:
And contrary to the belief of some, I do cross reference many of the articles posted in this thread and even use Google-fu to track down the source article or more info.

Not saying you're guilty, but others just post up one single completely biased article that's missing half the facts and expect us simpletons to accept it as gospel.

I'm not that dumb...
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Yeah, I usually try to look for other sources on most of the stuff I post. You gotta admit, some are just too depressing to look into further.
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Yeah, I usually try to look for other sources on most of the stuff I post. You gotta admit, some are just too depressing to look into further.
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Depends on your perspective. Take the child porn thing Bart posted. That's depressing. And yes, it irks me to think they are still on a taxpayer salary.

Having said that to say this, I do still believe that everyone has the right to their day in court, due process, the wheels of justice spinning and all that. And innocent until proven guilty, so on and so forth. Which is why I don't believe in asset forfeiture until a guilty verdict comes back and even then only the assets directly associated with said crime. But I'm also of the mind the justice hammer should be dropped when a verdict comes back. As well as no special treatment for any segment of society. A crime is a crime regardless of your standing.

Where I part ways with many is when the courts speak, that's the final word. As much as I might have agreed that the Eric Garner case should have gone to trial, the Grand Jury didn't think there was enough to indict and I have to respect that decision. The law was followed even though it didn't turn out the way we might have wanted it. As happens in a lot of cases where our passions override letting the system work.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Depends on your perspective. Take the child porn thing Bart posted. That's depressing. And yes, it irks me to think they are still on a taxpayer salary.

Having said that to say this, I do still believe that everyone has the right to their day in court, due process, the wheels of justice spinning and all that. And innocent until proven guilty, so on and so forth. Which is why I don't believe in asset forfeiture until a guilty verdict comes back and even then only the assets directly associated with said crime. But I'm also of the mind the justice hammer should be dropped when a verdict comes back. As well as no special treatment for any segment of society. A crime is a crime regardless of your standing.

Where I part ways with many is when the courts speak, that's the final word. As much as I might have agreed that the Eric Garner case should have gone to trial, the Grand Jury didn't think there was enough to indict and I have to respect that decision. The law was followed even though it didn't turn out the way we might have wanted it. As happens in a lot of cases where our passions override letting the system work.
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My perspective is completely different. It's my view that there is no real justice in a system where the judge, prosecutor, and the cops form a triad against the accused. All 3 btw are paid by the taxpayer. It's a conflict of interest from the start.

Until its understood that the playing field is rigged when you place government as final judge of government, we'll never have justice.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Yeah, you're that shallow...

Here's what the article says:

So are you saying they should be fired prior to the investigation ending? Pass judgment prior to a trial? They were removed from position of working the streets. And will be disciplined if/when convicted. And of course your website loves to play the semantics. "Still serving as cops." Does the term "fleet manager" sound very cop-like to you?

But you blame the PD for civil service laws that are very likely out of the police control. You don't work in the government sector, but you would be utterly shocked at how hard it is to fire any employee on a government wage. And that's Local, State or Federal.

And of course, you had to pick one of the most corrupt PDs in the entire country to highlight. NOLA isn't exactly a shining example of straight and narrow. Even the article alludes to that fact.

Now if/when they are found guilty, they should serve the maximum sentence and not a second less.
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“Sad”, “pathetic”, and now “shallow”. You’re on a roll not judging and whatnot.

If NOPD didn’t fire them on the spot, I would at least expect an indefinite suspension (preferably without pay). The fact that their suspensions were lifted before the investigations were completed definitely sends the wrong message. Heck, the child porn cop might even prefer a desk job…

(bad joke, I know)

I’ll concede that some of these firing/hiring decisions are probably out of control of actual police officers. I’m sure the unions play a big part in it too. Still, broken system is broken
 
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BartW said:
“Sad”, “pathetic”, and now “shallow”. You’re on a roll not judging and whatnot.
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I'm a trained investigator. Or was at least. I only form an opinion after I have enough facts to form one.

Being that the shallow comment was obvious sarcasm that you missed, I'll add in "sensitive" to your traits. It's okay, women like a sensitive guy.


BartW said:
I’ll concede that some of these firing/hiring decisions are probably out of control of actual police officers. I’m sure the unions play a big part in it too. Still, broken system is broken
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Blame the right system. Ask any government worker on here about how hard it is to fire someone with tenure. It's worse than the mafia. Once in, never out. And that's no matter if it's police, fire or the clerk that stamps the notary at the courthouse. And the unions play a much larger role than you could think.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'm a trained investigator. Or was at least. I only form an opinion after I have enough facts to form one.

Being that the shallow comment was obvious sarcasm that you missed, I'll add in "sensitive" to your traits. It's okay, women like a sensitive guy.


Blame the right system. Ask any government worker on here about how hard it is to fire someone with tenure. It's worse than the mafia. Once in, never out. And that's no matter if it's police, fire or the clerk that stamps the notary at the courthouse. And the unions play a much larger role than you could think.
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Sensitive too? :cray:

I was referring to the criminal justice system. And I think we can all agree, unions suck.
 
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