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Carl Pickens said:
I think the fact that cops deal with the likes of Sierra “C-Babi” McCurdy and worse day in and day out is lost on the cops haters of VN.
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It's not lost on me and it is a huge reason why I think we need police. Dealing with thugs is not any fun. I had to deal with them years ago and I wasn't in law enforcement.

But I still believe police need better training and need to lose the "everyone's a suspect" attitude. I've met some really laid back police that don't have that view at all, but I think the majority do share that vantage point.
 
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Carl Pickens said:
I think the fact that cops deal with the likes of Sierra “C-Babi” McCurdy and worse day in and day out is lost on the cops haters of VN.
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It's not lost on me.

I have respect for the cops who do their job and treat every individual citizen as an individual and a citizen.

It's the cops that paint with broad brushes and treat people like subjects that I can't stand.

It's a good thing this girl was fired and the Subway franchise owner was exercising their right (unlike Boston U) to fire someone for being a vile human being.

If cops targeted her, pinned some innocuous traffic violation on her and then beat her @ss for her comments, I'd have a problem with that. Even though she's a vile person.
 
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Burhead said:
https://news.vice.com/article/numbe...ly-doubles-in-2014?utm_source=vicenewstwitter

51 officers were killed in the line of duty last year. A 89% increase from 2013 numbers.
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At least that I've seen... nobody is arguing that being a police officer isn't a hazardous job (particularly certain areas). There is inherent danger in policing criminal elements.

However, police departments across the country don't help themselves when they rush to use lethal force and then are protected by their DAs.

It's almost like when the US was in Iraq/Afghanistan and the military sat down and said "we aren't winning these people over... why?" and then it realized when it stopped shooting off the cuff and treated the population it sought to pacify and police as citizens and not potential targets... things got better. HUMINT got better. People called in IEDs. It was like Sesame Street.

But then again, in Iraq/Afghanistan you're tasking professionals that are trained in proper use of firearms to ascertain danger, designate where the fire is coming from (yes, you had to wait until coming under fire... not just suspecting someone had a weapon or shot you a dirty look), request to engage and practice trigger discipline.

Can't have that back home when dealing with our own citizens. Just shoot off the cuff and explain away later.
 
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Burhead said:
https://news.vice.com/article/numbe...ly-doubles-in-2014?utm_source=vicenewstwitter

51 officers were killed in the line of duty last year. A 89% increase from 2013 numbers.
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Hmm...
While the 2014 figure indicates a sharp annual increase in officer killings, on average 64 officers have been murdered each year for the last 24 years, with figures dating back to 1980.
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Some more context:
Interestingly, as of writing this, 43% fewer cops have been shot by suspects this year than last year. With only 8 cops being killed by a suspect since January 1, that averages out to every 390 hours. In comparison, 412 people have been killed by police in the same time frame, or another person killed by police every 7.5 hours.
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Following their link:
According to an FBI report, Americans are less violent than ever, yet the police seem to be growing increasingly violent. These numbers seem to agree.

Being a police officer isn’t even close to being in the top 10 most dangerous jobs in this country. According to the 2013 report by the Federal Bureau of Labor Statistics on work-related fatal injuries, “Police and sheriff’s patrol deputies” ranked as the 41st most dangerous occupation.
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agent|orange said:
Man suffers broken nose, teeth in South County road rage incident | FOX2now.com

Off duty cop goes mental on elderly couple that had the audacity to question his merging into their lane with their arrogant "my car has rights" attitudes getting in the way.
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No matter what the circumstance the cop deserves to be fired but I hate these stories bc it only tells one side of it. It could have happened the way they claimed but I doubt they asked the other car to pull over to explain why they honked in the first place.
 
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volbeast33 said:
No matter what the circumstance the cop deserves to be fired but I hate these stories bc it only tells one side of it. It could have happened the way they claimed but I doubt they asked the other car to pull over to explain why they honked in the first place.
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Well, one man has a broken sinus cavity and chipped teeth. I'm guessing that the off duty officer doesn't have any injuries. It's possible the off duty officer was acting in self defense, but if only one person was injured that severely, I would imagine it lends credence to the injured man's side of events. That doesn't mean he is innocent, just that there was a use of force that went beyond what was required.
 
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davethevol said:
Well, one man has a broken sinus cavity and chipped teeth. I'm guessing that the off duty officer doesn't have any injuries. It's possible the off duty officer was acting in self defense, but if only one person was injured that severely, I would imagine it lends credence to the injured man's side of events. That doesn't mean he is innocent, just that there was a use of force that went beyond what was required.
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I stated that I didn't feel there was an excuse that shouldn't get this cop fired but I highly doubt someone getting behind u acting angry and aggressive that u decide to pull over to explain why u honked the horn in the first place.
 
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