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YorkVol said:
As a citizen, I feel I have the right to travel unidentified and unimpeded down any public street. I believe that is included in my basic rights. As a police officer you feel I am resisting if I don't stop and identify myself when you ask. That is a conflict that is now being resolved violently too often.
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tim said:
I accomplish this daily.
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YorkVol said:
Accomplish what?
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That was what I was wondering also.

I really hope he doesn't mean the highlighted...
 
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jp1 said:
All LEOs are liars?
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Here go some trustworthy officers right here...

Man sues Las Cruces Police for millions after altercation while restrained | News - Home

Police ultimately charged Flynn with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon for the incident involving his neighbor. They also charged him with two counts each of resisting, evading and obstructing an officer.
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So let me get this straight... a man handcuffed in a jail cell can "evade" arrest (he's already in a jail cell), "obstruct" arrest (again, he's already in a jail cell) and resist arrest (he's handcuffed going against 2 armed officers... in a jail cell).

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvhwuFv7aOM[/youtube]
 
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Are there bad cops? Certainly. Same with any other profession. Having said that, I have never found myself in a situation to find that out first hand. There is a reason for that.
 
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I guess we'll be seeing more "breathe easy" tees.

Guy died in custody in Florida and other prisoners are say he was telling the cop s that he was going to die and couldn't breathe. Having trouble posting link in mobile.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I guess we'll be seeing more "breathe easy" tees.

Guy died in custody in Florida and other prisoners are say he was telling the cop s that he was going to die and couldn't breathe. Having trouble posting link in mobile.
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Cant tell much from the article, but I can tell you this....if you are able to say "I can't breathe" then you can breathe.
 
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#VFL__ said:
SWAT Team Raids Family Home After Finding Tea Leaves In The Garbage - Downtrend
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As you can imagine, the Hartes were angry and confused over the raid. They had no idea why they were the target of a SWAT narcotics raid. When they tried to find out what triggered the assault on their privacy, they learned that the application used to obtain a search warrant was protected under Kansas law. In other words, they had no legal right to know why their house had been raided even though police found nothing and they hadn’t been arrested.

Bob Harte is not a man to take such a violation of his rights sitting down, so he hired a lawyer to investigate. What that lawyer turned up is actually more disturbing the initial raid.

Months prior to the raid, a State Trooper witnessed Harte coming out of a store that “sells equipment sometimes used for growing marijuana.” The store wasn’t named, but I’m guessing it was some kind of hardware store or nursery. In any case, Harte was not witnessed purchasing marijuana grow equipment; just that he was exiting the store.

So this Super Trooper sees a clean-cut middle-aged man coming out of a Home Depot-type establishment and instantly goes, “Holy sh*t, that guy is growing weed.”

Now it gets even creepier. The cops followed Harte back to his house and started going through his garbage. Because, you know, people don’t smoke or sell marijuana; they throw it away. The cops found a substance that turned out to be his wife’s favorite tea, but somehow “field tested” it and determined it was illegal drugs.

A lab later tested the substance and proved that it was, in fact, tea. It didn’t matter though; the cops had all they needed to get a warrant. Guy coming out of a hardware store? Check. Tea bags in the garbage can? Check. Assemble the assault team.
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Opening line says it all...
Imagine you went to bed in the United States of America and woke up in Stalinist Russia.
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jp1 said:
Cant tell much from the article, but I can tell you this....if you are able to say "I can't breathe" then you can breathe.
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This argument has always been exceptionally amusing to me as the people that use it obviously don't have the slightest clue what they're talking about.

Just because your airway is patent enough for you to force just enough air through it to beg for your life in no way means that you're being adequately oxygenated.
 
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jp1 said:
Yes. I also have black friends that I have grown with that also have had similar experiences to me. There is a reason for that also.
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I'm White, but have Black sons and a Black daughter, as well as a White son and two White daughters. Older Black son has been stopped by the police 3 times walking from the bus to the house. Younger Black son has been accused of stealing bikes and investigated by the police, but they dropped it when they met me face to face. Black daughter and younger Black son have been kicked out of a local convenience store twice without cause. After I introduced myself they were allowed in without question.

None of the other kids have ever been stopped or had anything but positive encounters with the police, store owners etc. Not drawing conclusions about these events being racially motivated, but they did happen.

None of my kids steal, or break things or do anything wrong that would draw the attention of the authorities, so why were they treated the way they were in your mind?
 
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Anybody who wants to play the "if you can talk you can breathe" game, do me a favor…

Have somebody you trust put you in a chokehold. Have them slowly apply pressure until your airway is completely obstructed. Then have them stop and catch your breath. Then have them do it again only this time have them apply about 3/4 of the pressure they were the time before. You'll be able to talk at this point. It won't be easy but totally possible. Do that and see how long you can make it before panic starts to set in.

Or you could just find someone with COPD or asthma who's in the middle of an exacerbation and tell them about how they must be breathing fine because they're still able to speak.

I'm a nurse in the ICU and can tell you all about the countless number of people that have absolutely been able to verbalize how severely they can't breathe just minutes before we intubate them and put them on a ventilator.
 
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