To all the Milton haters or even those concerned

[bhouston79]

after only one game. Here’s some statistics for you to consider:

Tee Martin’s first start versus Syracuse in 1998

9/26 for 143 yards

Peyton Manning’s first start versus Washington State

7-14 for 79 yards.

At 1:29:05 in the video below, you can see Manning overthrow a deep pass, which is the same sin you are already giving up on Joe Milton III over.

I say all this not to suggest that Milton is the next Tee Martin or Peyton Manning but instead merely to suggest that the overreaction to a couple of overthrows by some in our fan base is a bit premature.

 

[MCVol 1665]

Milton has been playing for years in college. Even with electroshock therapy his bad habits are not going to change.

Still, I hope he leads us to a victory.

Go VOLS!!!

 

[VOL 4 Life 83]

Difference is Milton has already started at an FBS school and should have those kinks worked out.

 

[vols 30]

Check out Milton's time at Michigan. Not that much better.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

This is Milton's 4th year in major College Football.

 

[bhouston79]

This is Milton's 4th year in major College Football.

It was Tee Martin’s 3rd year when he started against Syracuse. Granted, Milton did have a few starts at Michigan, but maybe he was coached up well there. I think all of the hand wringing is a bit premature.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Here's the simple math for the Joe Milton haters:

(a) Josh Heupel probably knows QBs, and how to pick the best of the options available, only like 10,000 times better than you (or me).
(b) Since he does, his pick is undoubtedly our beloved Vols' best chance at success.
(c) That doesn't imply Joe Milton is flawless. It doesn't imply he is Peytonesque. It only says he's our best shot.
(d) He's a college player wearing orange and white. We should support all players who wear orange and white. Even if we feel the need to criticize elements of their game, we still ought to be supporting them as OUR lads.
(e) Because we're all Vols fans. Right? Right? (I know you trolls are being really quiet about that one, shame on you).
(f) So we all want to win, Josh Heupel and all our players included, and Joe Milton gives us the best shot at that, based on the expert judgment of a national-title winning QB and now head coach.
(g) So no matter what happens next, we can only go into it hoping for the best, and supporting our lads.

It is no more complicated than that.

Do you have the right to bitch and moan and whine? Sure. You have the right. You look really stupid and childish doing it, given all the above, but you have the right.

Are you gonna get credit for having "called it" if we lose? No. Everyone is still gonna think you're a miserable sack of goat excrement, just for being negative about our lads.

So the logical approach, the most viable approach, is to support our coaching staff, support our lads (all of them), and hope for the best.

Try that.

Go Vols!

 

[JohnWardForever]

More excuses. The opponent was Bowling Green!! Shoulda scored 60 as did Auburn vs Akron. (Also a New Coaching Staff) Get back with us after Pitt.

 

[GoVols64]

It's ONE game.... We have no idea who he will be as he gains experience in CJH's system. Let's get behind this team and support the players. We are a coin flip, at best, for most of our schedule so I'm hopeful that the team can continue to improve and build confidence as the season goes. Get to a bowl; that is the goal.

 

[Tnphil]

Difference is Peyton and Tee had talent out the azz all around them to make up any lacking in QB play.

IMO there isn't a UT fan out there that doesn't want Melton to be 100% successful....Against BG he pretty much showed what he showed at Michigan and what Michigan fans said we were getting. That's concerning just like Washington State fans are probably believing what UT fans have said about JG today.

 

[EconVol92]

My only suggestion for Milton at this time is too be humble and stop that Cam Newton BS of acting like your ripping off your shirt like Superman against a team like Bowling Green. Now if he could beat Bama, Florida or Georgia I would be fine with it as that would be a super moment. Just my humble opinion.

 

[DiderotsGhost]

Not even comparable.

Peyton was a true Freshman. Milton is a Senior (or at least a 4th year player). And the plays aren't similar in any way. Peyton's throw looks like a timing route; he threw it almost immediately; the WR didn't get open like expected in that play. Milton's overthrow to Tillman was one where he had forever to make the throw, saw Tillman get open, and still overthrew by a mile.

There are arguments for Milton, but "Peyton once overthrew a WR as a Freshman" isn't a good one. Besides, it's not merely the overthrow that's bothering people. Slow decision-making and not seeing the field well were bigger issues. Peyton Manning didn't even have that issue as a Freshman.

For the record, Peyton's passer efficiency rating as a Freshman was 145.2, which is very good, particularly at that time. Joe Milton's was 124.6 last season and 113.3 in that game (which is bad).

And here's the real kicker: Hendon Hooker's passer efficiency ratings in 2019 and 2020 were 165.8 and 153.5. Even if Hooker lacks a great deep ball, statistically, he's much much better than Milton. Similar deal with Harrison Bailey; Bailey's rating was 155.5 as a Freshman.

I'm willing to watch the Milton experiment, but my gut is that the coaches are playing the 3rd best QB on the roster, because he has the "highest upside" and they are overconfident they can transform him. As I've said, I hope to be proven 100% wrong, but it's difficult for me to discount everything I saw last season from him at Michigan. Hooker and Bailey were both much better than him last year.

 

[Tman44]

after only one game. Here’s some statistics for you to consider:

Tee Martin’s first start versus Syracuse in 1998

9/26 for 143 yards

Peyton Manning’s first start versus Washington State

7-14 for 79 yards.

At 1:29:05 in the video below, you can see Manning overthrow a deep pass, which is the same sin you are already giving up on Joe Milton III over.

I say all this not to suggest that Milton is the next Tee Martin or Peyton Manning but instead merely to suggest that the overreaction to a couple of overthrows by some in our fan base is a bit premature.

Please stop trying to insert reality into this situation. People will soon accuse you of telling the truth. That will get you kicked off twitter, facebook and have you branded as dangerous.

 

[Carl Pickens]

after only one game. Here’s some statistics for you to consider:

Tee Martin’s first start versus Syracuse in 1998

9/26 for 143 yards

Peyton Manning’s first start versus Washington State

7-14 for 79 yards.

At 1:29:05 in the video below, you can see Manning overthrow a deep pass, which is the same sin you are already giving up on Joe Milton III over.

I say all this not to suggest that Milton is the next Tee Martin or Peyton Manning but instead merely to suggest that the overreaction to a couple of overthrows by some in our fan base is a bit premature.

I may be mistaken, but I believe WSU’s defense was #1 in the nation at the time and BG is a far cry from that Syracuse team

 

[GoVols64]

Difference is Peyton and Tee had talent out the azz all around them to make up any lacking in QB play.

IMO there isn't a UT fan out there that doesn't want Melton to be 100% successful....Against BG he pretty much showed what he showed at Michigan and what Michigan fans said we were getting. That's concerning just like Washington State fans are probably believing what UT fans have said about JG today.

Very true. Our WRs looked pedestrian against BG. I realize they were dropping a lot of players into coverage but you still have to get open and then catch the dang ball. Once we face off against more talented teams we won't have the luxury of running the ball as well as we did when they drop into nickel and dime coverages. SEC defenses are big, fast and, well, we aren't.

 

[BigALWiLson]

Here's the simple math for the Joe Milton haters:

(a) Josh Heupel probably knows QBs, and how to pick the best of the options available, only like 10,000 times better than you (or me).
(b) Since he does, his pick is undoubtedly our beloved Vols' best chance at success.
(c) That doesn't imply Joe Milton is flawless. It doesn't imply he is Peytonesque. It only says he's our best shot.
(d) He's a college player wearing orange and white. We should support all players who wear orange and white. Even if we feel the need to criticize elements of their game, we still ought to be supporting them as OUR lads.
(e) Because we're all Vols fans. Right? Right? (I know you trolls are being really quiet about that one, shame on you).
(f) So we all want to win, Josh Heupel and all our players included, and Joe Milton gives us the best shot at that, based on the expert judgment of a national-title winning QB and now head coach.
(g) So no matter what happens next, we can only go into it hoping for the best, and supporting our lads.

It is no more complicated than that.

Do you have the right to bitch and moan and whine? Sure. You have the right. You look really stupid and childish doing it, given all the above, but you have the right.

Are you gonna get credit for having "called it" if we lose? No. Everyone is still gonna think you're a miserable sack of goat excrement, just for being negative about our lads.

So the logical approach, the most viable approach, is to support our coaching staff, support our lads (all of them), and hope for the best.

Try that.

Go Vols!

Bro the only thing I have to say to that is Tee Martin, Chris Wienke were both on this staff not long ago.. You would expect them to know also,both won championships right. Using that has no basis for anything. I like Heupel and he's had guys ready to go before... This on isn't and Heupel has pucked starters before he replaced. This will be one of them.

 

[VFL-82-JP]

Bro the only thing I have to say to that is Tee Martin, Chris Wienke were both on this staff not long ago.. You would expect them to know also,both won championships right. Using that has no basis for anything. I like Heupel and he's had guys ready to go before... This on isn't and Heupel has pucked starters before he replaced. This will be one of them.

So I'll register you as one of the folks who know QBs better than Josh Heupel. Got you down, man.

Humility is a lost virtue these days. The ability to say to yourself, "you know what, maybe there is something this fella knows that I don't," and then sit back and try to learn from him. Rather than immediately question and counter and accuse.

One of the first lessons I learned as a young cadet was, before you can be a good leader, you have to understand how to be a good follower. Humility is a big part of that lesson. Unfortunately, it seems not to be taught much these days.

We need fewer arm chair experts, and more humble fans, I guess.

 

[bigl3327]

More excuses. The opponent was Bowling Green!! Shoulda scored 60 as did Auburn vs Akron. (Also a New Coaching Staff) Get back with us after Pitt.

This doesn't hold up. Everyone is basing this off what BG did a year ago. I have watched as many college football games as I possibly could over the last 4 days. In week 1, BG was a far cry from the worst looking football team that I saw. I don't know how their season will turn out (they are likely a 2-3 win team) , but I would confidently say that they will beat Akron. We have a lot of things to clean up before Saturday, but the same could be said for about 100 FBS teams after week 1. We also ran less than 10 different plays out of our playbook. Week 1 is just that. There will be major overreaction (good and bad) for a ton of teams after this week. The biggest progression is usually from week 1 to week 2 for most teams. We may be the worst fan base for overreaction in the country though. We will have our growing pains. Enjoy the win. Millions of fans can't do that this week. Many of whom's teams were ranked last week.

 

[Titan&Volfan4life]

I'm concerned about our passing game but I'll trust our coaches that have loads of practice tape and now a complete real game of tape to work off of to try to correct and fix the problems.

My biggest concern is that our QB 1 actually is the best option that we have to WIN games.

If he doesn't get better and none of our other QB's improve enough to replace him then that leaves our coaches simply trapped with no other better options to play with.

Our coaches can only work with the guys we have on our roster right now.

We need as many WINS as we can get in order to help our coaches recruit better to improve our roster every year.

I know that our coaches will keep working and teaching to help our players try to get better.

All we can do is hope and pray that our Team keeps improving and getting WINS so that our recruiting and roster can get better too.

I hope we see a big jump from this week because I think if we lose to Pitt that could really hurt us.

No matter what I'll always love and support my beloved Vols!!!

VFL...GBO!!!

 

[Proud Army Wife]

The difference is Milton has experience. I know it’s a new scheme he’s learning here but I figured we would’ve atleast seen an improvement on the same mistakes he made at Michigan. Not a Milton hater btw, I hope he improves and succeeds.

 

[JohnWardForever]

This doesn't hold up. Everyone is basing this off what BG did a year ago. I have watched as many college football games as I possibly could over the last 4 days. In week 1, BG was a far cry from the worst looking football team that I saw. I don't know how their season will turn out (they are likely a 2-3 win team) , but I would confidently say that they will beat Akron. We have a lot of things to clean up before Saturday, but the same could be said for about 100 FBS teams after week 1. We also ran less than 10 different plays out of our playbook. Week 1 is just that. There will be major overreaction (good and bad) for a ton of teams after this week. The biggest progression is usually from week 1 to week 2 for most teams. We may be the worst fan base for overreaction in the country though. We will have our growing pains. Enjoy the win. Millions of fans can't do that this week. Many of whom's teams were ranked last week.

SO, you don't think UT left 21 on the field? Oh and AUBURN'S QB------20-22.

 

[BigALWiLson]

So I'll register you as one of the folks who know QBs better than Josh Heupel.

There are a lot more people than me but sure. I don't think I know more than Heupel, what I do know is basic fundamentals he doesn't have and he will get lit the fk up in this conference. I'm also certain Heupel understands there is more to being a QB than throwing a ball 80 yards.

 

[hUTch2002]

after only one game. Here’s some statistics for you to consider:

Tee Martin’s first start versus Syracuse in 1998

9/26 for 143 yards

Peyton Manning’s first start versus Washington State

7-14 for 79 yards.

At 1:29:05 in the video below, you can see Manning overthrow a deep pass, which is the same sin you are already giving up on Joe Milton III over.

I say all this not to suggest that Milton is the next Tee Martin or Peyton Manning but instead merely to suggest that the overreaction to a couple of overthrows by some in our fan base is a bit premature.

Manning isn’t remotely comparable. Tee is a better comparison but Milton still has way more experience at the time of his first UT game than Tee did. Tee was also on the road against a pretty good Syracuse team. With all that said, I do agree people are putting too much into one game.

 

[TENICFAN30]

and this is why people it is hard to commit to tennessee I love tennessee football but if I had a son I wouldn't dare let him commit to tennessee right now with the way some of you react it's crazy bad mouthing young kids the way all do shame on ya'll. You don't think they don't get on here and looks at this stuff or know someone who does and tells them this crap. Look at the OTHER MESSAGE BOARDS what they are saying look at pitts there saying it's going to be a good say, we got a good team it's mostly all good things and all we got is neg crap to say we have the best and worst fan base in the country!

 

[vols 30]

and this is why people it is hard to commit to tennessee I love tennessee football but if I had a son I wouldn't dare let him commit to tennessee right now with the way some of you react it's crazy bad mouthing young kids the way all do shame on ya'll. You don't think they don't get on here and looks at this stuff or know someone who does and tells them this crap. Look at the OTHER MESSAGE BOARDS what they are saying look at pitts there saying it's going to be a good say, we got a good team it's mostly all good things and all we got is neg crap to say we have the best and worst fan base in the country!

Message boards have zero impact on recruiting. Losing and constant coach turnover on the other hand.....