TN ranked 6th in SEC Coaching Jobs

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KBVol said:
Yes, the "Mrs Cravitzes" of VolNation will take any comment that doesn't include saying Butch is great and we're gonna win it all this year and twist it 9 ways from Sunday just so they can call you a negavol. It's bizarre. Just the way it is. VN is a "no critical thinking zone" for these people.
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Funny. She was always right, just out smarted by a few witches and their magic.


Edit: The rest of your post is extremely exaggerated and I know you know it is. That's what's bizarre.
 
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Behr said:
Funny. She was always right, just out smarted by a few witches and their magic.


Edit: The rest of your post is extremely exaggerated and I know you know it is. That's what's bizarre.
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Embellished slightly....far from extremely exaggerated.
 
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forgiven said:
Tennessee is near the top every year in cash coming in to the football program. fans do there part. the fans are not getting there moneys worth. the buck stops in the AD office . he is calling the shots. i glad we have a new one. i do not think 8-4 will do now.
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Yep. The fanbase was never the problem. It is/was lack of leadership starting at the top....and it trickled down. The fans have been getting hotdogs and now hamburger steak for steak prices.....metaphor speaking.

We are wayyyy past Dooley so.....if 8-4 wasn't good enough 15 yrs ago then it shouldn't be now. The standard should always be high at a top 10 winning program. The leadership at the top has failed at maintaining that and failure trickled down.
 
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Neyland Law Vol said:
According to CBS the TN job is only the 6th best in the SEC. I was surprised they have the TN job ranked below the Barn.

Here is the ranking. And below is an article analyzing it.




https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/cbs-sports-ranks-secs-14-coaching-jobs/


Thoughts?

Maybe we don't have as good a job as we think when we talk about firing coaches all the time???
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You answered your own question in the first three words. It is the opinion of CBS. Obviously SDS thinks it is worth something, at least as clickbait.

If they did this poll five years ago, or do it again in 5 years, it probably won't stay the same. But as far as talking about firing coaches all the time, Tennessee is far from alone in that. How far removed from bringing home a national championship was Auburn before they showed Gene Chisik the door? While you and I might agree some fellow Vols fans are embarrassing, it's not like we hold a copyright on that kind of thing.
 
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The states, Georgia and Florida have the high school football programs producing the most collegiate player prospects. Yeah, I know the argument that Texas is the recruit-rich state in the SEC. Um, no. Texas does not send to SEC schools anywhere near the number of elite players as come from Georgia and Florida. In-state talent is touted as a huge advantage, but, there are only so many slots on the rosters. An out-of-state school's need and promise of playing time can sway a top Georgia or Florida recruit.

Besides, Bama's place atop the media hack's ranking is contrary to the argument for in-state talent pool being a top consideration. Alabama may have in-state talent, but it is in the drag of Georgia & Florida. Bama's place on top is secured via fund raising and the administration's willingness to spend on athletics, especially football. Buck$ is why Bama has Saban and his staff, the facilities, and recent level of success. Bama is attractive to top prospects because of winning and placing players in the pro ranks. Lose Saban, lose program momentum, and Bama drops relative to other SEC schools.
 
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The Preds start play in October. Titans are being tabbed as a playoff contender this season. Maybe some Knoxville bound dollars stay in Nashville if we're not looking strong in the East race after UGA and UF? UTAD is gonna be under even more pressure to put a winner on the field.
 
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To gauge SEC programs attractiveness to coaching prospects and student athletes, funding, facilities, and support are the foundation upon which success is built. I will argue Tennessee is among the top five among the SEC in this regard.
 
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Tin Man said:
To gauge SEC programs attractiveness to coaching prospects and student athletes, funding, facilities, and support are the foundation upon which success is built. I will argue Tennessee is among the top five among the SEC in this regard.
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It sure seems that way. CBS seems to assume that all coaches are inherently lazy and want the best opportunity to shoot fish in a barrel on the recruiting trail. I wonder if they factored in USC giving out free memberships to Augusta National? Lots of head coaches play golf. It's a silly list.
 
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KBVol said:
Embellished slightly....far from extremely exaggerated.
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Okay, I genuinely admit I exaggerated. You are correct.

There are a few posters that base their opinions of Butch on his history. They use whatever info they can to backup the "fact" he will never win championships here.

These same posters get in a debate on a subject, and make comments that are obviously referring to Butch. They may not mention his name, but because of their posting history, everyone knows what was meant, and then they play dumb.

You are amoung a few people here who's opinions I respect and take in consideration when trying to form my own opinion, on matters I'm not as educated on. I just don't understand when you throw crap like that out there. That stuff works exactly the same way on the other side. It's weird to me you don't see that.

I guess I could handle my responses better, and will.
 
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Behr, you are a good, good person. I really appreciate having you in this community.
 
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KBVol said:
Yes, the "Mrs Cravitzes" of VolNation will take any comment that doesn't include saying Butch is great and we're gonna win it all this year and twist it 9 ways from Sunday just so they can call you a negavol. It's bizarre. Just the way it is. VN is a "no critical thinking zone" for these people.
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So what you're really saying is it's irresponsible to take into account the multiple posts and concrete stances a person takes and to apply that information to any future statements that person makes. In other words, disregard any and all background knowledge while reading each post. Because you, BV, and others haven't already firmly chosen a stance and argue that stance in almost every thread?

Maybe I misinterpreted BV, but it's only because the last 500 posts of his I have read have had one theme.

I definitely think criticism of leadership is warranted. Without criticism, standards are non-existent. However, there is also a place for support. Many on here struggle with finding that balance.
 
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Behr said:
Okay, I genuinely admit I exaggerated. You are correct.

There are a few posters that base their opinions of Butch on his history. They use whatever info they can to backup the "fact" he will never win championships here.

These same posters get in a debate on a subject, and make comments that are obviously referring to Butch. They may not mention his name, but because of their posting history, everyone knows what was meant, and then they play dumb.

You are amoung a few people here who's opinions I respect and take in consideration when trying to form my own opinion, on matters I'm not as educated on. I just don't understand when you throw crap like that out there. That stuff works exactly the same way on the other side. It's weird to me you don't see that.

I guess I could handle my responses better, and will.
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Well said.
 
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Tennessee is getting there with in state talent. They're already there in tradition, money, facilities, etc. Biggest problem and the one that will prevent this program from becoming successful is the incompetent and divided decision makers and administration.
 
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Behr said:
Okay, I genuinely admit I exaggerated. You are correct.

There are a few posters that base their opinions of Butch on his history. They use whatever info they can to backup the "fact" he will never win championships here.

These same posters get in a debate on a subject, and make comments that are obviously referring to Butch. They may not mention his name, but because of their posting history, everyone knows what was meant, and then they play dumb.

You are amoung a few people here who's opinions I respect and take in consideration when trying to form my own opinion, on matters I'm not as educated on. I just don't understand when you throw crap like that out there. That stuff works exactly the same way on the other side. It's weird to me you don't see that.

I guess I could handle my responses better, and will.
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There is no doubt for anyone being honest.
 
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Bama
LSU, Locked down recruiting far from other SEC schools
Ga, Locked down recruiting base
UT/ FL tie
TN has the tradition and a growing recruiting base. FL has more recent success and better recruiting base. I think our facilities are better.
Then Auburn and a host of others
 
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chargervol said:
There is no doubt for anyone being honest.
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Yea, that's a whole other issue. It's my true belief some get so uncomfortable with honesty, they won't even talk to you.

And it's so damn funny, in a way. "It's a message board....blah blah blah" I know dip sht, why you making it so fawking difficult? :crazy:
 
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Saban will retire or kick off in due time. Which team will grab the momentum when that happens. UT is in a good position but we need to win the east more than Fl or Ga in the three years prior to establish superiority. From the west LSU has to be the favorite. So we need to beat them this year. It is a tall order but beat LSU and win the east this year then win the east next year.
GA could likewise do well with two near term east championships.
FL has 2 backdoor east championships but will fall without a good showing the next two years.
So we need to beat GA and FL the next two years.
If we could beat Bama along the way it would hasten nicks demise.
Where do we go to buy a bag of luck. Yea, right Birmingham (;-()
 
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They hit it about right Tennessee and the War Eagles are about the 5th best job in the conference these days when the HALL OF FAME coach that couldn't coach was here the job was top 2 but we all see we did the right thing and ran the hall of fame coach of just look at the results and we all know Tennessee hit a home run in the next 3 hire's but you know that i know that we all know the right call was made.:clapping:JUST WIN 8 BABY Fulmer was just a 10 win coach in most years but we all know we hit the JACK POT in the next 3 hires just saying.:clapping:
 
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I would put UT ahead of Auburn and move Texas A&M into the top 5 simply because of the recruiting territory.
 
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