TN All Time Ranking As A Basketball Program

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I read somewhere else that Tennessee was around the 70-80 mark, all-time, when considering all Division 1 schools.
 
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Those rankings the OP mentioned are really bad. I read about them the other day, Sangarian or whatever. 70 - 80 really does sound more accurate.
 
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I would've guessed about #50 myself. We did have some pretty good teams with Ernie & Bernie plus the Allan Houston era. I don't think we were ranked when Tony White was here, where we? :question:
 
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the Allan houston era was one of the worst buddy. I have gone to almost every home game since i was like 6 with my parents good,bad and terrible teams it didnt matter. and Allan houstons era was some of the worst. I am 31 years old and have seen some awful bball in my lifetime.
 
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DeepSpringsVol said:
the Allan houston era was one of the worst buddy. I have gone to almost every home game since i was like 6 with my parents good,bad and terrible teams it didnt matter. and Allan houstons era was some of the worst. I am 31 years old and have seen some awful bball in my lifetime.
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I'm 38 I thought we had better seasons in the Allan Houston era. I could be wrong because I didn't go to many games. Maybe it just seemed that way with Allan Houston. Was we ever ranked when Dyron Nix was here? Boy, didn't he turn out to be a fine NBA Player? Ha! :p
 
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Hey I say we should go along with it. Something that should humble our current players.
 
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#9
I'm almost 30 and the best season we had with Allen Houston was his senior year 19-15. Allen was the man though just didn't have any support.
 
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I know UCONN was more of a regional power for a long time, but for Tennessee to be 21 spots ahead of them is ridiculous. Seriously, did a retarded monkey make that list?
 
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emainvol said:
I know UCONN was more of a regional power for a long time, but for Tennessee to be 21 spots ahead of them is ridiculous. Seriously, did a retarded monkey make that list?
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its the Sagarin ratings. Jeff Sagarin is the inventor, if your curious. His stat ratings and predictions through the course of a season are used world wide for their accuracy. Some pretty neat stuff.

HOWEVER, in this instance, this particular model seems flawed to me as well. I do know that this formula for all time greatest programs does not accound for # of national Championships, which is more than likely why UK is at #1 instead of UCLA. And also Why UT is so far ahead of UCONN. We were discussing this on a UK board.

Its kinda weird.
 
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2009/1004/cbe1.pdf

According to ESPN. 33. That is not that bad but it is below the level many of us expect and demand during the Bruce Pearl era. We want to be a top 25 team most years and many of us believe Pearl needs an Elite 8 this year and at least 1 player drafted high in the NBA.
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I can see an argument for the top 5, in whatever order you choose. Other than that, the Sagarin ratings are as worthless as they are in football.

Duke is behind Illinois? Louisville is behind Iowa? Did the guy who thinks Kirk Ferentz is the second best coach in the nation come up with this formula?
 
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cotton said:
I can see an argument for the top 5, in whatever order you choose. Other than that, the Sagarin ratings are as worthless as they are in football.

Duke is behind Illinois? Louisville is behind Iowa? Did the guy who thinks Kirk Ferentz is the second best coach in the nation come up with this formula?
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If Sagarin's formulas were half as accurate as people pretend they are, he wouldn't be selling it to newspapers. He's be using it to break Vegas.
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hatvol96 said:
If Sagarin's formulas were half as accurate as people pretend they are, he wouldn't be selling it to newspapers. He's be using it to break Vegas.
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I don't blame Kentucky fans for liking it. He has them #1 in this thing, and he retroactively awarded them a football national championship a half-century after the season was over. That doesn't make it particularly meaningful, however.
 
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cotton said:
I don't blame Kentucky fans for liking it. He has them #1 in this thing, and he retroactively awarded them a football national championship a half-century after the season was over. That doesn't make it particularly meaningful, however.
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Yes, in Kentucky Sagarin is a God. As would be Hitler, if he wore a Kentucky shirt.
 
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We have no business cracking the top 35 until we at least get past the Sweet 16 for the first time in our history.
 
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SGMVols said:
We have no business cracking the top 35 until we at least get past the Sweet 16 for the first time in our history.
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All time rankings are about consistency and in this particular case, about by how much you beat other teams.

Devoe and Mears and even Jerry Green mean Pearl is not the first coach to win big at this school.

UConn is like Florida football but with even less NCs. You do not become an all time great program with 1 great coach. Last 20 years yes UConn is far and away above UT, but before that?
 
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UConn was a regular participant in the NCAA tournament well before the last twenty years. I understand what this list is about, and it is still a joke.
 
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cotton said:
I can see an argument for the top 5, in whatever order you choose. Other than that, the Sagarin ratings are as worthless as they are in football.

Duke is behind Illinois? Louisville is behind Iowa? Did the guy who thinks Kirk Ferentz is the second best coach in the nation come up with this formula?[/QUOTE]

.....and Memphis is behind Tennessee.
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CALISKING said:
cotton said:
I can see an argument for the top 5, in whatever order you choose. Other than that, the Sagarin ratings are as worthless as they are in football.

Duke is behind Illinois? Louisville is behind Iowa? Did the guy who thinks Kirk Ferentz is the second best coach in the nation come up with this formula?[/QUOTE]

.....and Memphis is behind Tennessee.
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In fairness, I have a hard time placing any team with multiple final four appearances in the modern era above teams with none.
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I have not seen much on here about Stephen Pearl. Other than going to the Maccabiah games I have not seen anything from Bruce indicating that he treats his son in a way that anyone could criticize.

Allan Houston was the best player Wade had by far, but he also lost game after game because the supporting cast sucked and was poorly coached.

Tubby Smith had to negotiate alot of hate having his kids play for him at UGA and UK.
 
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