Thoughts on SEC Expansion?

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VolFreakJosh

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There’s already two automatic losses on our schedule every year against Bama & Georgia with Florida being the exception.

You add Oklahoma & Texas to that list whom recruits very well.

With Sankey wanting to add more teams, how would this affect Heupel’s future with Tennessee?

Personally? I don’t think it’s good for the conference.
 
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I don’t think it matters honestly. Sec schedule is a pain in the ass regardless. Have to see what the number of conference games looks like and other factors.
 
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DaddyChad said:
I don’t think it matters honestly. Sec schedule is a pain in the ass regardless. Have to see what the number of conference games looks like and other factors.
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It’s just going to make Heupel’s job harder to win a certain amount of games to keep most of this fanbase happy.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
It’s just going to make Heupel’s job harder to win a certain amount of games to keep most of this fanbase happy.
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Entirely possible just have to see what the realignment looks like. I think Heupel has time regardless. He will get time to succeed or fail on his terms.
 
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You got to beat the best to be the best. Everything goes in cycles. We had a good cycle and now we've been in a bad cycle. I think it started to turn back around last year. Other teams will go into bad cycles and good cycles. Just got to beat the teams you are suppose to and a couple that are considered an upset.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
There’s already two automatic losses on our schedule every year against Bama & Georgia with Florida being the exception.

You add Oklahoma & Texas to that list whom recruits very well.

With Sankey wanting to add more teams, how would this affect Heupel’s future with Tennessee?

Personally? I don’t think it’s good for the conference.
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There will be a day when Bama and Georgia won't be automatic losses. We're heading that direction right now.
 
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It's all terrible. We're close to being a perennial bottom-half program if we don't make an immediate push while NIL is still on the table.

Regardless, the entire infrastructure of CFB is awful. No adults at the table. Just short-term profit anglers acting as league commissioners.
 
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I would hate for this fanbase to turn on CJH...I honestly feel like he is the man for the job long term but I know how our fans get....He's way better than anyone we have had in years so I hope we keep him for a long long time and let him build his program.
 
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If you can't run with the big dogs it doesn't matter. Oklahoma and Texas are good adds. Tennessee as an SEC football program has done well over time and will do well again in the future. Vandy on the other hand has not faired well over the long haul. Vandy is damned lucky to be in the most powerful athletics conference in the country. Vandy will never be the best football program in the country. Our Tennessee Volunteers are on the way back and we're no longer going to fear our most hated opponents were going to whip their ass again. I'm ready for September. To heck with media days.
 
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Ugh... have you seen Texas lately? They have been terrible. In some ways, having Texas on the schedule will be nice because they are always overrated and tend to choke. If Kansas can beat them, surely we can.

Oklahoma is another story but they lost Lincoln Riley and have new system so they are a big ? mark.

Auburn is *****ing the bed finally and might be heading for Tennessee slump. Their recruiting class is in the 70s and the coaching situation is in disarray. Auburn, Georgia, and LSU have all been firing coaches like Tennessee but keep getting lucky with new hires. At least one of them's luck may have ran out.
 
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If we are going to be a championship team, we have to beat everybody. Might as well beat on the best.
 
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Might as well cancel ooc games and have every team play each other and the 2 teams with the best record play for the CFB title
 
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PowerT83 said:
Might as well cancel ooc games and have every team play each other and the 2 teams with the best record play for the CFB title
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This may not be that far off base , if we end up with 2 super conferences .
 
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0nelilreb said:
This may not be that far off base , if we end up with 2 super conferences .
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Imagine this possible future:

  • All of what used to be the Power 5 has boiled down to the two super-conferences, the SEC and the BIG. The latter has given up the "10", they're now just BIG. Most folks agree they're over-compensating for having small penises.
  • Together, these two conferences are called Division A, though most folks just say "the super-conferences" or "power conferences."
  • The SEC has 26 teams, while the BIG has 30, for a total of 56 schools in Div A.
  • The ACC and B12 have ceased to exist. The PAC, clinging to old memories, is among the former Group of 5 conferences, now called Division B. There are 74 teams in Div B.
  • Back to Div A: the SEC stretches from Virginia through North and South Carolina, the entire original SEC footprint, and into Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri and Nebraska.
  • The BIG reaches from coast to coast, largely north of the Mason-Dixon line.
  • Does a map of these two conferences' footprints look eerily similar to the division of the states in the Civil War? Yes. Uncomfortably so. No one talks about it, except Caleb Calhoun and Clay Travis.
  • The NCAA no longer exists. In its place, there are two Steering Committees, formally named the Division A Steering Committee (DASC) and Division B Steering Committee (DBSC). When they meet together, they are called the Division 1 Rules Board (or just the Rules Board).
  • The Rules Board has just one job: to maintain and keep updated the rule book for college football. That's all it does.
  • The Steering Committees do all the other tasks required by their conferences: set eligibility limits, coordinate NIL positions, manage the post-season schedule and bowls, etc.
  • Regular season play is 12 games, all of which are in-conference, between August and November each year.
  • The SEC is divided into two divisions of 13 teams. Each division member plays all other division members every season. The early half of December is reserved for Division championship games pitting a rematch of the #1 and #2 team in each division. If the #1 and #2 teams split their regular season and division championship games (one wins in the regular season, the other wins the championship match), they play another game the following week--effectively making the Division championship a "best of 3" format. On the third Saturday of December is the Conference championship game, which alternates between Atlanta and Houston.
  • The BIG is divided into four pods of 7 teams, plus Ohio State and Notre Dame. In December, the pods play in a bracket, with Ohio State and Notre Dame always getting an automatic bye in the first round. In the end, there's somehow a conference champion. It is usually decided in a smoky back room before these games are even played. It is almost always either Ohio State or Notre Dame, though occasionally Michigan ponies up enough in bribes to take a turn. There are persistent rumors that the Mafia runs the BIG playoffs, though no one still alive has been able to prove anything.
  • January is bowl season. In Division A, there are two annual trophies: National Champion, and League Champion.
  • The National Championship game features the conference champions of the SEC and BIG, traditionally played in our nation's capitol, Washington, DC (though occasionally the game moves to another venue in a major American city).
  • The League Championship is decided by the top 15 teams of the SEC and BIG (regardless of regular season record) meeting in bowl games, paired up #2 vs #2, #3 vs #3, and so on. The super-conference that wins more than half of these 15 bowl matchups (the national championship game counts as one of them) is League Champion. The trophy resides with the winning League for the following year.
  • After the post-season is over, some time in February, it is tradition for the Division A national champion to play what most folks call the Pity Bowl against the Division B champion. It is almost always a lopsided affair decided by mercy rule (30+ point difference in score any time in the 2nd half ends the game). But it keeps the Div B midgits from claiming they're actually national champions, so it is worth it.

I'd love this future. It would boil the messiness of current college football down into the essentials. Which I think we can all see is going to be a world where SEC and BIG rule. And it would make every bowl game count again.

Go Vols!
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
There’s already two automatic losses on our schedule every year against Bama & Georgia with Florida being the exception.

You add Oklahoma & Texas to that list whom recruits very well.

With Sankey wanting to add more teams, how would this affect Heupel’s future with Tennessee?

Personally? I don’t think it’s good for the conference.
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its going to happen. As a UT fan, just have to live with whatever it ends up being or find something else to do.

No one has any idea how things will be structured. I mean, number of leagues? How will league championships be determined? Will there be a national playoff system? How will that be structured? How many schools per league? What will schedules look like?

Television will drive whatever happens. Might end up seeing more Thursday, Friday, Sunday and Monday type games. Burden on the fans going to games but no one will care as long as the TV revenue keeps coming in.

At this juncture, its still a lot of unknowns. Every other day, the speculation changes on movement and structure.
 
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Along with NIL, this expansion stuff will just further degrade college football. Now there is talks of possibly Notre Dame, Clemson joining the SEC. There is zero advantages for TX and OU to come tithe SEC.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Along with NIL, this expansion stuff will just further degrade college football. Now there is talks of possibly Notre Dame, Clemson joining the SEC. There is zero advantages for TX and OU to come tithe SEC.
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Tbf .. I can think of about 100million reasons .
 
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