This would be Awesome!!!! Saban to Packers?

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Saban owns the program at Tuscaloosa soup to nuts. In the pros he would be very limited in areas he would require conttrol of and can't have IMO.
 
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Can’t cheat and hoard talent in the NFL, not happening. Saban is a recruiter and manager, not an actual coach that can win against equal talent week after week.
 
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rjd970 said:
Can’t cheat and hoard talent in the NFL, not happening. Saban is a recruiter and manager, not an actual coach that can win against equal talent week after week.
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Saban outcoaches and outschemes college coaches with similar talent all the time.

The "Saban isn't a good coach - he always has more talent than teams he plays against" argument is hilarious to me. Does he have nothing to do with acquiring and developing said talent? If Saban were a poor tactician, he'd be like a pre-2015 Dabo. Consistently good teams, but lose a couple games a year you shouldn't, and consistently fall short of greatness.
 
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05_never_again said:
Saban outcoaches and outschemes college coaches with similar talent all the time.

The "Saban isn't a good coach - he always has more talent than teams he plays against" argument is hilarious to me. Does he have nothing to do with acquiring and developing said talent? If Saban were a poor tactician, he'd be like a pre-2015 Dabo. Consistently good teams, but lose a couple games a year you shouldn't, and consistently fall short of greatness.
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Of course he has something to do with acquiring said talent, its why I specifically called out being a good recruiter. Recruiting is part of the college coaching game, so yes, Saban is a great coach. Nothing in my post says otherwise nor do I believe otherwise.

Scheme wise, his isn't out scheming anyone. I stand by that. He out talents everyone on the field. They literally line up and everyone knows what they are going to do. Now, could he out scheme people? Maybe...but he doesn't have to is the point.

What I do know is scheming and coaching matter more in the NFL because the system is designed to keep talent equal. In that setting, he failed and he wants no part of going back.
 
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rjd970 said:
Scheme wise, his isn't out scheming anyone. I stand by that. He out talents everyone on the field. They literally line up and everyone knows what they are going to do. Now, could he out scheme people? Maybe...but he doesn't have to is the point.

What I do know is scheming and coaching matter more in the NFL because the system is designed to keep talent equal. In that setting, he failed and he wants no part of going back.
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That bolded part is coaching, not recruiting. His teams never fail to show up or come out flat. Having more talent than the other team doesn't prevent either of those things from occurring. Why does he also almost always win games when he's facing a team with just as much talent as him? College football is littered with coaches who recruit well but aren't great developers or tacticians. Saban isn't one of them. Saban probably would have at least competed for a title with Butch's 2015 and 2016 teams. That 2015 team in particular could have gone 11-1. Instead a coach like Butch leads them to an 8-4.

He doesn't want to go back to the NFL because he doesn't want to coach a team someone else put together. And if the Dolphins signed Drew Brees instead of Daunte Culpepper, there's a decent chance he's still in Miami or the NFL somewhere. The Dolphins have been an incompetent organization for quite a long time, and Saban wasn't at the top of it to control it, which is why he didn't last long.
 
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05_never_again said:
Saban outcoaches and outschemes college coaches with similar talent all the time.

The "Saban isn't a good coach - he always has more talent than teams he plays against" argument is hilarious to me. Does he have nothing to do with acquiring and developing said talent? If Saban were a poor tactician, he'd be like a pre-2015 Dabo. Consistently good teams, but lose a couple games a year you shouldn't, and consistently fall short of greatness.
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Saban is a great coach. I think he is the best college football coach ever... but the part I put in bold could easily describe his tenure at LSU. Including his last game there vs Iowa, which ended with a loss on a busted coverage.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Saban is a great coach. I think he is the best college football coach ever... but the part I put in bold could easily describe his tenure at LSU. Including his last game there vs Iowa, which ended with a loss on a busted coverage.
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Not exactly. He also won a national title at LSU the year before.

Saban is unquestionably the greatest college coach of all time, and I don't even see how you make an argument for it to be anyone else.
 
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Saban isn’t leaving a Dynasty to go back to the NFL.

It’s unrealistic.
 
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rjd970 said:
Of course he has something to do with acquiring said talent, its why I specifically called out being a good recruiter. Recruiting is part of the college coaching game, so yes, Saban is a great coach. Nothing in my post says otherwise nor do I believe otherwise.

Scheme wise, his isn't out scheming anyone. I stand by that. He out talents everyone on the field. They literally line up and everyone knows what they are going to do. Now, could he out scheme people? Maybe...but he doesn't have to is the point.

What I do know is scheming and coaching matter more in the NFL because the system is designed to keep talent equal. In that setting, he failed and he wants no part of going back.
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Well, he did go to Miami. Who doesn't seem to have the same level of talent as NE. I don't see the NFL talent as being fairly level. If it is, then there is a lot of parity in the quality of coaches.
 
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5 to 7 years I think coach Saban decides he's won enough. He retires as the second-winningest head coach in Alabama folklore. He gets his own wing in the Paul Bear Bryant Museum.
 
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I would have thought longshot anyways like many have stated with his easy way of piling on his legacy folklore. But seeing Gruden out for long time of NFL coaching and struggle if I were Saban I know its not gonna be easy getting it going. And at his age he might not be able to do it.
 
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