This is why last night was so bad

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TN_Transplant said:
The press, the national coverage. All of it affects recruiting, rank voting, bowl opportunities, it affects much more than one bad game.

It spawns articles like this. https://news.google.com/news/ampvie...alachian-state-win-090116.amp.html#pt0-689128

Many more, plus TV highlights. That's the repercussions that no one is talking about.
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The accolades were over done. This team needed to be humiliated. There must be many bad teams in the NCAA if this one is #9.
 
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Here's the deal... Let's assume (and I'm not 100% convinced myself) this was just overconfidence or first game jitters. If we play the rest of the season like we're supposed to, this game won't matter come
December. Most will have forgotten and, on top of that, they're probably gonna win 10 games (11 if they beat Miami).
 
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No one cares about near misses after like 2 days.

At the end of the year, no one will ever talk about this game when describing our season, I promise.
 
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Cdywolfe said:
Here's the deal... Let's assume (and I'm not 100% convinced myself) this was just overconfidence or first game jitters. If we play the rest of the season like we're supposed to, this game won't matter come
December. Most will have forgotten and, on top of that, they're probably gonna win 10 games (11 if they beat Miami).
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Perhaps, but it is very alarming that Butch could not have our guys dialed in with a home opener, one of the only games on TV, ranked #9, aspirations to win the East..........and that garbage is what we put on the field?
 
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fade route said:
Perhaps, but it is very alarming that Butch could not have our guys dialed in with a home opener, one of the only games on TV, ranked #9, aspirations to win the East..........and that garbage is what we put on the field?
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Blaming the coaches for a lack of motivation only gets you so far. The fact that the oline couldn't block a 250 lb dlineman has more to do with effort than coaching. If a player isn't giving 100% it is on them not the coaches.
 
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These things happen. It is how you bounce back that matters and defines the season.

It's not how you start, it's how you finish.
 
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fade route said:
Perhaps, but it is very alarming that Butch could not have our guys dialed in with a home opener, one of the only games on TV, ranked #9, aspirations to win the East..........and that garbage is what we put on the field?
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Oh I 100% agree. As I said in my post, I'm far from convinced that was a fluke. I'm just saying that come season's end, the fact that it took OT to beat Appalachian State is basically going to have zero influence on this team's national perception.

In fact, if this turns into 2005, beating at 10 win team might be one of the season's high marks.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Blaming the coaches for a lack of motivation only gets you so far. The fact that the oline couldn't block a 250 lb dlineman has more to do with effort than coaching. If a player isn't giving 100% it is on them not the coaches.
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Did we adjust at all on O after halftime? I'm by no means a football guru but if we did it was hard for me to spot.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Blaming the coaches for a lack of motivation only gets you so far. The fact that the oline couldn't block a 250 lb dlineman has more to do with effort than coaching. If a player isn't giving 100% it is on them not the coaches.
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Right or wrong, it doesn't matter - all the mistakes land at the coaches' feet. This team wasn't prepared at all.
 
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landscapingvol said:
Blaming the coaches for a lack of motivation only gets you so far. The fact that the oline couldn't block a 250 lb dlineman has more to do with effort than coaching. If a player isn't giving 100% it is on them not the coaches.
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It works both ways though. Did Mahoney have these guys ready? I mean they were the most experienced OL in the SEC, it sure didnt seem like it. The OL played badly and the overall coaching was terrible. And please, dont give me the vanilla gameplan excuse.
 
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TN_Transplant said:
The press, the national coverage. All of it affects recruiting, rank voting, bowl opportunities, it affects much more than one bad game.

It spawns articles like this. https://news.google.com/news/ampvie...alachian-state-win-090116.amp.html#pt0-689128

Many more, plus TV highlights. That's the repercussions that no one is talking about.
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And if we beat VT badly they'll be all over us again. The headline for Florida will be "which teams shows up". Then we beat Florida and they all say I told ya so.

Be a good life lesson for you. 1 mistake doesn't define you. People focus on what you've done lately. Until a predictable pattern occurs. So make bad choices anamolies not habits
 
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fade route said:
Perhaps, but it is very alarming that Butch could not have our guys dialed in with a home opener, one of the only games on TV, ranked #9, aspirations to win the East..........and that garbage is what we put on the field?
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He made a point of stressing in his preparation week presser that the team was game ready and had earned his trust. He's going to take a lot of heat in the media for this but we may never know what he says to the team once they begin preparation for the Battle at Bristol. The players will know that a lot of people outside the program are laughing at their performance last night so I don't think he'll have to say much. I don't think these guys are quitters. They'll see how they screwed up but we're probably mostly only going to hear spin. For now, this team still has my trust and so does Butch. I'm not alarmed; I was very alarmed - until Jalen Hurd recovered that fumble and the defense held. Now I'm good. :)
 
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UneducatedGuess said:
And if we beat VT badly they'll be all over us again. The headline for Florida will be "which teams shows up". Then we beat Florida and they all say I told ya so.

Be a good life lesson for you. 1 mistake doesn't define you. People focus on what you've done lately. Until a predictable pattern occurs. So make bad choices anamolies not habits
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Unfortunately some of these mistakes were ones made in the past; mistakes made by veterans thought to have progressed past such mistakes. Coaches thought to have learned from poor play calling in the past. Hopefully everyone just got a big head and this game brought them back down to earth. Hopefully....otherwise this team will be fortunate to win 8 games
 
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fade route said:
Perhaps, but it is very alarming that Butch could not have our guys dialed in with a home opener, one of the only games on TV, ranked #9, aspirations to win the East..........and that garbage is what we put on the field?
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Jesus Christ, you're acting like we just lost this game. Why don't you just be thankful that we got the W and hope that we play better against Virginia Tech?
 
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Young men don't want to play for a inept coach who can't utilize their many talents.
 
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The article is exactly right. I hope the team reads as many of these articles as they did the hype in the offseason. Something I haven't really seen is this...look at who made some of the biggest mistakes - JRM for targeting, Sutton with the fumble, Dobbs with his terrible decision making. All 3 are our leaders on the team. Hopefully they take ownership and light a fire under their back sides along with the rest of the team for B@B
 
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I guess we suck. Looking for at least 3 losses from this bunch. Sgt. Carter has to go. :cray::lolabove:
 
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Ten_Titans said:
No one cares about near misses after like 2 days.

At the end of the year, no one will ever talk about this game when describing our season, I promise.
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As much as the Vols stunk it up last night we don't need to worry about the end of the season yet
 
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Last night was sloppy. Something didn't feel right from the opening kick.

Did the team and coaches overlook a quality opponent while prepping for next week?

Or, is this team not as good as advertised?

Is it possible these kids let the hype go to their heads?

Let's not forget, many other teams have struggled against much more inferior opponents. Ga barely beat Ga southern and turned out ok. Florida struggled several times and went on to win lots of games.

Stuff happens. App is a solid team and well coached.

We didn't look like a top 10 team and likely won't be in week two.

Let's see how they respond. That kid of focus and effort will get you a 6-6 season with our schedule. If it serves as a wake up call we could come alive and wins lots of games.
 
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TN_Transplant said:
The press, the national coverage. All of it affects recruiting, rank voting, bowl opportunities, it affects much more than one bad game.

It spawns articles like this. https://news.google.com/news/ampvie...alachian-state-win-090116.amp.html#pt0-689128

Many more, plus TV highlights. That's the repercussions that no one is talking about.
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And dropping out of the top 10 after the first game ain't a good thing. Wonder how many positions we drop, depending everyone ahead of us wins this weekend.
 
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VolFreakJosh said:
Jesus Christ, you're acting like we just lost this game. Why don't you just be thankful that we got the W and hope that we play better against Virginia Tech?
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there wasn't much that we "won" last night... one of those games that nothing good came from it... If we are needing to take the stance of "well at least we won" against a team stacked with lesser talent, what do you think is going to happen when we play SEC teams? The media is going to roast us all week about how overrated we are AGAIN and recruits are going to look to other teams that maximize the talent on the field, which clearly we do not....
 
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My deal is I dont in any way think it was an effort or overlooking problem and unlike this entire board seems to be saying how great App state is and they are for their level of team, but they are still App state. They are not near the level of the elite teams we are fixing to be lined up across from or should be ourselves.

The positive is they played better in the 2nd half, the D looked pretty good after finally having a coach that makes adjustments, and in the 1st half a lot of crap went against em. JRM gone, Sutton fumble, TD not counting, etc. I could see the game being close at half after all that and most of us called that. 2nd half the offense should've had a fire lit under their azz and knocked them lil fellers off the ball and been able to pound the ball at will and instead the Oline got whipped a lot. Can it improve, I think so but no excuses. No ,App is a giant killer, our players overlooked them, it was 1st game jitters, that's the best RB we will face etc.

They just outplayed us. Do something about it 120! We're still behind you all the way.
 
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