The "Wide Receiver Package" at QB

#51
#51
Guys, the bottom line is that when we get to 3 yard line, we better be able to pound it in or there is something bad wrong with our offense. Heck, Ainge should be able to run 3 or 4 QB sneaks and get in the endzone. It's just pathetic that we couldn't run it in with 1st and goal at the 3. BTW,that was the most pitiful excuse for a trick or disguise play that I have ever seen. They weren't fooling anyone with that formation. I would have rather seen Berry or Jones lined up in the QB position than Taylor anyway.
 
#52
#52
I like the play itself, but I think it was a bad time to call it on the goal line with Ainge at WR. I think we have a lot of athletes who can make that play like Vinson, Crompton, Rogers, along with Taylor and maybe a few more. What was Taylor in HS and what did TN recruit him as? I like Vinson the best at running this play. Look @ Percy Harvin when he does it for FLA. As far as Berry doing it, it's obvious that he is capable and athletic enough, but he needs to just focus on defense. We are weak in the secondary. He will have to learn fast like Ramar did last year as a PG.
 
#53
#53
NationofVols said:
You mean the same defensive lineman that had already taken a step towards Taylor? That lineman was nowhere near in the middle of those two players, unless of course you're talking about when Taylor was swallowed up whole or unless he would have just pitched the ball like a retard instead of BACK to where the running back was. Taylor had zero intentions of even faking a pitch, let alone actually pitching it. I'm sure that is how it was designed as well, but unless that defensive lineman is as fast as Dwight Freeney, he didn't have a chance at getting the ball if he would have pitched it when he should have.
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He couldn't have pitched the ball. He was rolling right. There were defenders there, so he turned it up and couldn't get through the line.
 
#54
#54
oklavol said:
Explain how as a coach you dont have priorities?

What's the best use of practice time? Working on special packages on offense for a WR playing QB or is it spending more time on doing fundamentals correctly like blocking and tackling? You listen to the coach, they talk about the limited amount of time they have to prepare for a game and to coach.

All the good tackling drills I've seen, involved drills where defensive players tried to beat blocks and tackle offensive players carrying the football and trying to make you miss.

I guess you would run drills where defensive players tackle other defensive players while the offensive players ran special packages against offensive players playing defense on two different ends of the field? Doesn't sound like that would work too good to me.
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Wow you just waisted a lot of time. The offensive coaches practicing a WR package has nothing to do with the defensive coaches practicing tackling drills.

I highly doubt the offensive coaches are going to lend the starters to Chavis and Co to practice tackling drills especially during the season.

Again that is what the SCOUT team is for. While Cut is working on his WR package or whatever the hell he wants to do Chavis simultaneously could be working his first team defense with Offensive players from the SCOUT team.

There is zero correlation between a WR package and the defense not tackling.
 
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JZVOL said:
Wow you just waisted a lot of time. The offensive coaches practicing a WR package has nothing to do with the defensive coaches practicing tackling drills.

I highly doubt the offensive coaches are going to lend the starters to Chavis and Co to practice tackling drills especially during the season.

Again that is what the SCOUT team is for. While Cut is working on his WR package or whatever the hell he wants to do Chavis simultaneously could be working his first team defense with Offensive players from the SCOUT team.

There is zero correlation between a WR package and the defense not tackling.
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You don't teach tackling without at some point having defensive players practicing tackling offensive players. Otherwise it's pointless.

Every team has a number of different drills where a runningback or WR is given a pitch and is asked to make the defensive player miss. That's how you can evaluate a players technique. Those are the hardest drills a football team has.
 
#56
#56
oklavol said:
You don't teach tackling without at some point having defensive players practicing tackling offensive players. Otherwise it's pointless.

Every team has a number of different drills where a runningback or WR is given a pitch and is asked to make the defensive player miss. That's how you can evaluate a players technique. Those are the hardest drills a football team has.
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My gosh... that is what the SCOUT team is for. The defense can do tackling drills on the offensive players who will not be playing this year while Cut is runningthe offense's practice.

Am I not explaining myself or something?
 
#57
#57
JZVOL said:
My gosh... that is what the SCOUT team is for. The defense can do tackling drills on the offensive players who will not be playing this year while Cut is runningthe offense's practice.

Am I not explaining myself or something?
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You explaining yourself, it just doesn't sound like any football practice I've ever seen or had.

Football practice isn't easy. If you think offensive players aren't getting hit and tackled on a regular basis I think you'd be mistaken. There's a good reason for QB's like Ainge or Crompton to need to wear green jerseys.
 
#58
#58
oklavol said:
You explaining yourself, it just doesn't sound like any football practice I've ever seen or had.

Football practice isn't easy. If you think offensive players aren't getting hit and tackled on a regular basis I think you'd be mistaken. There's a good reason for QB's like Ainge or Crompton to need to wear green jerseys.
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How long ago did you play football? Not trying to sound like a smartarse but the scout teams are the tackling dummies for the first team defense. It's very rare that you see the number 1 defense in a full blown scrimmage against the number 1 offense, especially during the season.
 
#59
#59
justingroves said:
How long ago did you play football? Not trying to sound like a smartarse but the scout teams are the tackling dummies for the first team defense. It's very rare that you see the number 1 defense in a full blown scrimmage against the number 1 offense, especially during the season.
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when I played high school, the 1st team defense scrimmaged the 1st team defense 3 days a week for the last hour of practice in full pads. This was in 84-87.
 
#60
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oklavol said:
when I played high school, the 1st team defense scrimmaged the 1st team defense 3 days a week for the last hour of practice in full pads. This was in 84-87.
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Well that isn't the way did it. The reason being most of us played both offense and defense and our coach wanted to see if the young guys could make plays.

UT's scrimmages are almost always the #1s vs #2s on both sides of the ball
 
#61
#61
Rasputin_Vol said:
Did you honestly think ainge was going to get the ball? Why not just take Ainge out on that particular play and put in another athlete? Then you at least give Cal something to think about. But it's a moot point because as you said, it wasn't executed well anyways.
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Ainge stayed in there only to have him in the huddle. If the guys in the box had seen Ainge coming out, they would have been able to adjust their call. Either way, it didn't work out for the Vols. It should have been Gones or Berry back there.
 
#62
#62
oklavol said:
You explaining yourself, it just doesn't sound like any football practice I've ever seen or had.

Football practice isn't easy. If you think offensive players aren't getting hit and tackled on a regular basis I think you'd be mistaken. There's a good reason for QB's like Ainge or Crompton to need to wear green jerseys.
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I am not being mean but that is how almost every team practices.

Of course fb practice isn't easy, but during the season the 1st team defense is not going to be tackling anyone from the 1st team offense.

To make sure nobody from the scout team touches them.
 
#67
#67
GAVol said:
Based on all the reps you've seen them take previously I guess. :crazy:
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Berry had gotten some reps back there in the summer. However I agree with kpt that Taylor would be fine back there if they are going to run that formation
 
#68
#68
justingroves said:
Berry had gotten some reps back there in the summer. However I agree with kpt that Taylor would be fine back there if they are going to run that formation
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Berry got some reps, but it's always funny to me when people make authoritative statements about true freshmen that they have never actually seen play a single down in the SEC.
 
#69
#69
GAVol said:
Berry got some reps, but it's always funny to me when people make authoritative statements about true freshmen that they have never actually seen play a single down in the SEC.
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Oh I know. It's amazing how popular the backups are
 
#71
#71
I just wanna see us use the special package more than once a game.. just at least try it with each gamebreaker, (Taylor, Jones, and Berry)
we should at least give all 3 a chance against USM and see what happens..
Heck, what do we got to loose.. i really doubt that any of them will get sacked unless there is a complete o-line break.. their just too fast!
 
#72
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GAVol said:
Berry got some reps, but it's always funny to me when people make authoritative statements about true freshmen that they have never actually seen play a single down in the SEC.
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yeah i was making an authoritative statement. I was just sayin my opinion. Kp was right when he said it wouldn't have mattered because of the line. However, i just don't like Taylor back there, I'm sorry if that bothers you. I generally don't look for freshman to come in right away but I would like to see Berry get a chance with the ball in his hands.
 
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