The wait on coaching moves

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The wait is driving me crazy. I’m waiting for a signal of assistant coaching hires or a head coaching change. I don’t know what Tennessee will do, but either will signal our direction for next year. With assistant coaching jobs available, we don’t seem to be making moves and that’s weird. That makes me question what will happen at the top. The later timing and no movement either way is strange.

In my opinion, we are waiting on either news to break.
 
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There will be no head coaching hire. Pruitt is the coach for this year. As far as assistants, apparently there is some interest in a big time loser in the NFL for OL. DL might be Bo Davis of the Lions. One of the worst defenses in the NFL.

So I would expect those loser hires along with some other losers to jump aboard.
 
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I am not against Pruitt. I went from a supporter to now on the fence. I think he can succeed if we can find a good offense. But the wheels were falling off recently, so that might force our hand. Just commenting about the wait and no news is strange.
 
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I am not against Pruitt. I went from a supporter to now on the fence. I think he can succeed if we can find a good offense. But the wheels were falling off recently, so that might force our hand. Just commenting about the wait and no news is strange.
Don’t try and respond. ANYTHING that’s posted about the HC is deemed as an attack and hatred. I think there are a lot of us that agree with your statement regardless where we stand on keeping or relieving him. I got swarmed by a few for saying that the University needs to make a statement and every podcast I’ve heard have reciprocated the same belief. The Fulmer statement isn’t relevant since he stated it a day after the investigation was brought to light and is still on going. I’m neither in either camp now because if he’s retained I will still watch the games I just will give my own money to the power company and let the network fund Tennessee.
 
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The coaching staff is under investigation so no news until that's resolved most likely
This is the reason for the delay. UT has lawyered up, so now the game has begun. Could be something big and ugly, could be a giant nothingburger with extra cheese. Until we find out what's really going on behind closed doors, I wouldn't expect any hires.
 
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So this is somewhere between an internal university audit and a full-blown NCAA investigation. At the moment, it seems to be closer to the former than the latter, but with the ability to shift at any point depending on initial findings. So how long is the wait for these various kinds of investigations?

At the upper limit, the NCAA can take years to complete a major investigation. So there's one bookend.

At the lower limit, an audit could be done in just two or three weeks, even demonstrating due diligence.

Since this one involves a contracted outside law firm, it will be longer than the lower limit, but still (so far) much shorter than the upper limit.

So we're probably talking anywhere from a month to three months before any initial findings are made public.

Go have a sandwich. Repair the gutters. Get vaccinated when it's your turn. Follow the basketball season, including whatever passes for March Madness in 2021. Just about the time all that is ending, maybe some announcements will be made and Pruitt will be free to start hiring assistant coaches to backfill vacancies.

And maybe, as a happy surprise, it could even happen sooner than that., But I wouldn't be sitting around holding my breath.
 
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It’s pretty wild. 24/7 is reporting that Pruitt might be retained or he might not be. Literally, no ones knows anything.



The link so y’all can listen in.
 
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I am not against Pruitt. I went from a supporter to now on the fence. I think he can succeed if we can find a good offense. But the wheels were falling off recently, so that might force our hand. Just commenting about the wait and no news is strange.
I'm in same boat...I'm perfectly fine w/ Pruitt staying IF he can get things turned around next year, and probably the best path to follow. Decent signing class. I think more than the assistant coaches, the thing to watch is the type of portal transfers we bring in to balance out our signing class. If they're able to fortify the DL and maybe a burner WR, and certainly, the biggest fish, Gilbert, to me, that would signal that PLAYERS are still bought in, and helping recruit, and fill needed talent voids. Mays coming back is HUGE. Not throwing towel in, b/c I think if we change coaches, we're back on the hamster wheel, shuffling the roster and having another google coach take over....Pruitt on hottest of seats, for sure.
 
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I am not against Pruitt. I went from a supporter to now on the fence. I think he can succeed if we can find a good offense. But the wheels were falling off recently, so that might force our hand. Just commenting about the wait and no news is strange.

I think the powers are divided, and waiting till after signing day to make a decision. Perhaps the investigation will help direct that decision.

Regardless, I would advise to just make your peace with Pruitt staying for one more year. The team still has winter conditioning and then Spring Ball coming up.
 
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I think the powers are divided, and waiting till after signing day to make a decision. Perhaps the investigation will help direct that decision.

Regardless, I would advise to just make your peace with Pruitt staying for one more year. The team still has winter conditioning and then Spring Ball coming up.
I think you’re correct about the powers being divided. I imagine there is a power grab going on behind the scenes. I would imagine that some boosters are trying to decide what their next move is, and that if removing Fulmer is priority number one. He has been unusually quiet, which makes me think he’s trying like heck to stay off the radar.
 
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There will be no head coaching hire. Pruitt is the coach for this year. As far as assistants, apparently there is some interest in a big time loser in the NFL for OL. DL might be Bo Davis of the Lions. One of the worst defenses in the NFL.

So I would expect those loser hires along with some other losers to jump aboard.
I haven’t heard anyone talk poorly of Bo Davis at all. In fact, most seem to think that he would be a great get. The Bungals OL coach is a different story though.
 
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The wait is driving me crazy. I’m waiting for a signal of assistant coaching hires or a head coaching change. I don’t know what Tennessee will do, but either will signal our direction for next year. With assistant coaching jobs available, we don’t seem to be making moves and that’s weird. That makes me question what will happen at the top. The later timing and no movement either way is strange.

In my opinion, we are waiting on either news to break.
Pruitt can’t make any hires until the investigation is over that’s pretty obvious at this point.
 
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There will be no head coaching hire. Pruitt is the coach for this year. As far as assistants, apparently there is some interest in a big time loser in the NFL for OL. DL might be Bo Davis of the Lions. One of the worst defenses in the NFL.

So I would expect those loser hires along with some other losers to jump aboard.
Seriously, time to buck up.
 
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I am not against Pruitt. I went from a supporter to now on the fence. I think he can succeed if we can find a good offense. But the wheels were falling off recently, so that might force our hand. Just commenting about the wait and no news is strange.

Our oc knows how to get points scored, if Pruitt wants to remain hc, he better let the oc run the offense he wants to run. The offensive scheme that Pruitt wants to run will not succeed in the sec, meaning a predominately running game. Yes you can win 8 to 9 games a year now with this type of offensive scheme, but you can't compete for sec titles.
 
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Our oc knows how to get points scored, if Pruitt wants to remain hc, he better let the oc run the offense he wants to run. The offensive scheme that Pruitt wants to run will not succeed in the sec, meaning a predominately running game. Yes you can win 8 to 9 games a year now with this type of offensive scheme, but you can't compete for sec titles.
Hire Malzahn and Steele, retain Chaney and win 8-9 next year.

No it's not going to happen and no, this is not a combination that will ever win an NC but that's a pipe dream at this point. I'm just ready to work back to being competitive.
 
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I think you’re correct about the powers being divided. I imagine there is a power grab going on behind the scenes. I would imagine that some boosters are trying to decide what their next move is, and that if removing Fulmer is priority number one. He has been unusually quiet, which makes me think he’s trying like heck to stay off the radar.
Dave, brother, you're writing fiction.

I mean, you're just imagining things (you say that yourself) and then presenting it to the community here as if it might be reality.

Folks who actually add value, those are the folks who actually see bits of real evidence, and then come up with possibilities that can explain what they've found.

But this contribution of yours...I mean, what makes you think Fulmer is any quieter now than he normally is? Have you made a hobby of studying the frequency of his public statements and press releases, so that you might possibly be able to spot when the rate drops? Or is this more of a "I just feel like it's true" thing?

And then you go beyond that very unscientific quasi-observation, to form a conclusion: he's trying to stay off the radar because boosters have made removing him from office their number one priority.

Wow! Intriguing! And what evidence did that Machiavellian claim flow from? Do you know any boosters? Do they confide in you? Are they making public their goals?

And a "power grab"? REALLY, do tell! Who is trying to grab what specific power from whom?

Brother, this is entirely your imagination. You're making this all up. It seems like a pleasing possibility to you, an exciting tale of smoke-filled back rooms and plots, but is really nothing more than your neurons creating a story in your head.

At least, that's how it seems from out here. But if you do have any evidence of any of this, please. Share. I'll apologize if I've read you wrong.
 
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It’s pretty wild. 24/7 is reporting that Pruitt might be retained or he might not be. Literally, no ones knows anything.



The link so y’all can listen in.

He's dead on about that.
It's silent because they really don't know what to do. And I think they are going to end up being reactive opposed to Pro active about it.

Fulmer i believe has sympathy for Pruitt because he himself felt he deserved more time to fix the program that he let slip.

Boosters have probably wanted him gone since Ga St/BYU.

It seems like all the Schools except UT are making moves to try and get better, while UT is just watching and trying to jump on at the last minute possibly.
 
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I'm in same boat...I'm perfectly fine w/ Pruitt staying IF he can get things turned around next year, and probably the best path to follow. Decent signing class. I think more than the assistant coaches, the thing to watch is the type of portal transfers we bring in to balance out our signing class. If they're able to fortify the DL and maybe a burner WR, and certainly, the biggest fish, Gilbert, to me, that would signal that PLAYERS are still bought in, and helping recruit, and fill needed talent voids. Mays coming back is HUGE. Not throwing towel in, b/c I think if we change coaches, we're back on the hamster wheel, shuffling the roster and having another google coach take over....Pruitt on hottest of seats, for sure.

Pruitt's record certainly put his job in play. Economics does not make this a preferred time to go shopping for replacements. I am of the opinion that the power team of admin and money guys is about the same as it was three years ago. They were all involved in the decision to fill the hole created by Currie when no consensus fix had us as the preferred landing spot and they all agreed that Pruitt was the best way to stop the bleeding at the end of an embarrassing public search. I am betting they are hoping to not have to duplicate that process and firing is unlikely till they have a guy whose people have winked at our people. Whenever you have the NCAA snooping around you never know what will turn up and we are sitting tight till some level of ultimate exposure is defined. I am guessing the recent addition of outside counsel is to push for that definition. Hope CPF took notes on the Dickey plan for dealing with the NCAA. Bottom line I think the power team is wanting to deal with change in the post COVID world if possible, with increased revenues and a year without making payments to a previous coach. Nothing about the candidate list this year seems to have them excited and they would prefer to defer. I am guessing they have an emergency plan, but don't want to have to use it if it can be avoided. That is how we got to where we are today. Miracle or bust if we are allowed to stand pat.
 
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The wait is driving me crazy. I’m waiting for a signal of assistant coaching hires or a head coaching change. I don’t know what Tennessee will do, but either will signal our direction for next year. With assistant coaching jobs available, we don’t seem to be making moves and that’s weird. That makes me question what will happen at the top. The later timing and no movement either way is strange.

In my opinion, we are waiting on either news to break.
We are having to wait until the investigation is complete. If Pruitt knew about the impermissible benefits then there is reason to fire with cause I would assume but if not then he will be here next year. So until that is complete there will be no news on him and he can't hire assistants while in limbo.
 
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The coaching staff is under investigation so no news until that's resolved most likely

I swear I think some people keep forgetting this or choose to ignore it. As of right now, we don't know if Pruitt is back or not until this investigation has concluded. Those who are definitively saying he's back, you don't know. Nothing is definite as of right now and nothing is going to get announced until that happens. So as of right now, nobody on here knows what's going to happen. I would venture to guess that Pruitt cannot hire or even interview new assistants while this investigation is taking place so yeah, he's somewhat twisting in the wind just like we are until the information comes out.
 
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There will be no head coaching hire. Pruitt is the coach for this year. As far as assistants, apparently there is some interest in a big time loser in the NFL for OL. DL might be Bo Davis of the Lions. One of the worst defenses in the NFL.

So I would expect those loser hires along with some other losers to jump aboard.
Bo Davis would be a loser hire? So I guess you don’t actually pay attention to sports outside of UT. Davis would be a grand slam hire, but he’s likely headed somewhere else, be it Ole Miss, LSU, or Texas.
 
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He's dead on about that.
It's silent because they really don't know what to do. And I think they are going to end up being reactive opposed to Pro active about it.

Fulmer i believe has sympathy for Pruitt because he himself felt he deserved more time to fix the program that he let slip.

Boosters have probably wanted him gone since Ga St/BYU.

It seems like all the Schools except UT are making moves to try and get better, while UT is just watching and trying to jump on at the last minute possibly.
Exactly. I'm sure they hope there's damning/firable recruiting violations that will make the decision for them so they can avoid having to make the call. Doubt that's going to surface so I think they end up taking the easy and least expensive road in the short term. They'll let the gump change his staff for what....the third time?....and pray we play lights out next season. Somehow that square peg is gonna fit that round hole. Just needs some more time. It's UT and that's the way we operate.
 
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The wait is driving me crazy. I’m waiting for a signal of assistant coaching hires or a head coaching change. I don’t know what Tennessee will do, but either will signal our direction for next year. With assistant coaching jobs available, we don’t seem to be making moves and that’s weird. That makes me question what will happen at the top. The later timing and no movement either way is strange.

In my opinion, we are waiting on either news to break.

Until the results of the investigation into the UT football program finished and revealed, there will be no coaching changes period. Who were the coaches that were involved with possible indication of two? If Pruitt was involved, then there is a strong possibility that he may be relieved as coach and UT would not owe any separation money.
 
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Until the results of the investigation into the UT football program finished and revealed, there will be no coaching changes period. Who were the coaches that were involved with possible indication of two? If Pruitt was involved, then there is a strong possibility that he may be relieved as coach and UT would not owe any separation money.
The only plus to the NCAA Investigation is that it could possibly cancel out CJP buyout if the NCAA finds out bad stuff was done.
 
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