The Unlucky 13: Top Recruiting Classes That Fizzled

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The Unlucky 13: Top classes that fizzled

These are the schools, who had recruiting classes that killed their programs. Unfortunately, we are listed in this multiple times. They list us for the 2007 and 2009 Recruiting Classes. I think that they should have added our 2008 Recruiting Class as well.

As we know, those poor recruiting classes emptied the cupboard of talent at Tennessee and as a result Dooley inherited a program so devoid of talent, that he could not fill out the two deep without using walk-on players.

You have to give Dooley credit. He has signed three good classes and better yet, he has been able to keep them on campus and can fill out the two deep with some SEC caliber players.
 
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Notre Dame is only on there once??? lol Yeah right... Every class they have signed for the last 15 years has been a joke...
 
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Read that earlier. This is why I dont get all the Dooley hate. When you look at where we were in Fulmers last year and how Kiffins recruiting class turned out, Dooley came into a ****hole situation. IMO now that we have a full roster, experience and depth, this will really be the first year anyone can fairly grade Dooley on his coaching.
 
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VolMaster14 said:
Read that earlier. This is why I dont get all the Dooley hate. When you look at where we were in Fulmers last year and how Kiffins recruiting class turned out, Dooley came into a ****hole situation. IMO now that we have a full roster, experience and depth, this will really be the first year anyone can fairly grade Dooley on his coaching.
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You can grade Dooley on his coaching philosophy, game management, in game adjustments, and disclipline within the program. And recruiting (where
he has done very well). I don't buy into the free pass because we don't have the best players on the field.
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I guess FSU has also underachieved a lot lately. Like a crab, I'll pull another one back into the bucket.
 
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The legitimate (and there is a difference) Dooley hate comes from his lack of game management and inter-personal relations skills/decisions. You can't give JJ a year to get off drugs, D-Rogers more than a year to get over himself, more than two years for Bray to start studying and preparing for his position, make fun of players in the media, etc. - and expect team morale to be where it should to compete at a high level. His past game management incompetence speaks for itself.

The negatives now being said and they are as real as it gets - there are some really strong positives. First, all of the negatives can be fixed by Dooley himself. He is the master of his own fate, with Hart aiding his cause. if he wants to change it he can immediately. Second, I really like his recruiting of both players and this coaching staff. This last recruiting class is really special IMO. Several players that will make an immediate impact this fall. That is all it takes for this team to get back to the 9+ wins as the rest of them have gotten stronger, older, and now have many more accomplished position coaches to develop them. Third, the schedule will help them a bunch this year. That should enable Dooley to build some momentum and put the ugly past in the rear view mirror. Fourth, the VFL and academic support system is what will separate them from most of the competition. Building character and support for academics is a no-lose proposition. That not only sells the recruit, it sells the families of the recruit. Combined with top facilities that is what takes the brand nationally.

In summar, limit the BS, build the roster with quality recruits, learn to win again, develop the family/brand = Vol tradition of national prominence. I believe he can and will get it done now as long as he stays on task.
 
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We did have a tough run for several years.We all know the cupboard was bare but at what point should we hope for top ten classes .The reality is to compete with the best you must recruit with the best. And to this point i'm not sure we have totally shown the ability to really coach our kids up.
 
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VolMaster14 said:
Read that earlier. This is why I dont get all the Dooley hate. When you look at where we were in Fulmers last year and how Kiffins recruiting class turned out, Dooley came into a ****hole situation. IMO now that we have a full roster, experience and depth, this will really be the first year anyone can fairly grade Dooley on his coaching.
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Wait....did I just find a well-reasoned post on VN. Say it ain't so.
 
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PimpVol said:
You can grade Dooley on his coaching philosophy, game management, in game adjustments, and disclipline within the program. And recruiting (where
he has done very well). I don't buy into the free pass because we don't have the best players on the field.
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Never said he gets a free pass.
 
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Sure don't claim to be "in the know" as much as many here at VN, but I would have thought at least one, possibly more, classes from Texas would have been on this list. For the level of recruits they bring in their performance the past few years has been abismal. :sad:
 
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VolMaster14 said:
Read that earlier. This is why I dont get all the Dooley hate. When you look at where we were in Fulmers last year and how Kiffins recruiting class turned out, Dooley came into a ****hole situation. IMO now that we have a full roster, experience and depth, this will really be the first year anyone can fairly grade Dooley on his coaching.
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Totally agree.
 
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VolMaster14 said:
Read that earlier. This is why I dont get all the Dooley hate. When you look at where we were in Fulmers last year and how Kiffins recruiting class turned out, Dooley came into a ****hole situation. IMO now that we have a full roster, experience and depth, this will really be the first year anyone can fairly grade Dooley on his coaching.
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And grade we will.....
 
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Tux said:
The Unlucky 13: Top classes that fizzled

These are the schools, who had recruiting classes that killed their programs. Unfortunately, we are listed in this multiple times. They list us for the 2007 and 2009 Recruiting Classes. I think that they should have added our 2008 Recruiting Class as well.

As we know, those poor recruiting classes emptied the cupboard of talent at Tennessee and as a result Dooley inherited a program so devoid of talent, that he could not fill out the two deep without using walk-on players.

You have to give Dooley credit. He has signed three good classes and better yet, he has been able to keep them on campus and can fill out the two deep with some SEC caliber players.
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The 2008 class was not included because this was an article about HIGHLY RANKED classes that went bust. 2008 was a bust out of the gate. Reading comprehension is your friend.
 
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PimpVol said:
You can grade Dooley on his coaching philosophy, game management, in game adjustments, and disclipline within the program. And recruiting (where
he has done very well). I don't buy into the free pass because we don't have the best players on the field.
Coach 'em up! Posted via VolNation Mobile
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This only works to a certain degree. I will agree that CDD needs to make some serious improvements in himself.

It is only fair to acknowledge, however, that the talent level has been abysmally low. It has been on par with Vandy and Kentucky as proven by the number of close/overtime games with those schools over the past 5 seasons. You don't win much in the SEC with Vandy and Kentucky level talent--as history has proven.
 
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Well he kind of stepped into a no win situation. He was more set up for failure than success. If the man turns it around this year then you have to say he did a pretty good job of getting it on track again. If we"re all wondering by late october whether we'll make a bowl game or not then in my mind it's time to pull the plug on this experiment.
 
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The really sad part is that going down that list, half of our starters the past two years were three stars....yea coach up that talent Dooley.....Art Evans, Anthony Anderson, Daniel Hood, Daryl Vereen.....our number three WR last year was low 3 star Zach Rodgers man....
 
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Classes like the ones outlined in the article really didn’t happen very often until early draft was allowed. It really interrupts the development of these young men. Personally, I think freshmen should not play. Also, a player should not be permitted to declare until their Sr. Yr. The only exception to this should be early enrolment, even that is not enough time to really acclimate. These young men need a year to get their Academics and schedules under control. Not having this kind of early structure leads to being moved due to Academic reasons, it also leads to a higher injury rate. It is real easy to point at the Players and say they are just being childish, or to say the Coaches are not doing their job. The reality of the situation is NCAA rules are the cause of attrition like this. It is going to get much worse with the 25 signing limit across the board as well. Something has to give, I think it will end in a full restructure of NCAA, and BCS realignment. Maybe that will be a good thing, maybe that is exactly what is needed.
 
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LurtzVol109 said:
The really sad part is that going down that list, half of our starters the past two years were three stars....yea coach up that talent Dooley.....Art Evans, Anthony Anderson, Daniel Hood, Daryl Vereen.....our number three WR last year was low 3 star Zach Rodgers man....
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Yes, and it is not just the starters you have to look at, because backups get significant playing time. If the starters are there, I would hate to see where the backups are rated.
 
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Cartervol said:
Well he kind of stepped into a no win situation. He was more set up for failure than success. If the man turns it around this year then you have to say he did a pretty good job of getting it on track again. If we"re all wondering by late october whether we'll make a bowl game or not then in my mind it's time to pull the plug on this experiment.
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This I'll agree with. :good!:
 
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should of threw our 2010 class on there we lost so many kids after the coaching change

probably close to 10 4 stars but i guess the kids that are contributing kept them off
 
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PimpVol said:
You can grade Dooley on his coaching philosophy, game management, in game adjustments, and disclipline within the program. And recruiting (where
he has done very well). I don't buy into the free pass because we don't have the best players on the field.
Coach 'em up! Posted via VolNation Mobile
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Idiotic. :crazy:
 
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PimpVol said:
You can grade Dooley on his coaching philosophy, game management, in game adjustments, and disclipline within the program. And recruiting (where
he has done very well). I don't buy into the free pass because we don't have the best players on the field.
Coach 'em up! Posted via VolNation Mobile
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Sorry, but that is BS. You can't "coach up" poor talent in the SEC. Dooley inherited a bunch of crap- player talent, attitudes, possibility of major sanctions- that he had to deal with. After the transfers and the process of addition by subtractions, he was left with a team that would have been lucky to finish in the middle of the Big East or ACC. Dooley's clock starts now.
 
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PimpVol said:
You can grade Dooley on his coaching philosophy, game management, in game adjustments, and disclipline within the program. And recruiting (where
he has done very well). I don't buy into the free pass because we don't have the best players on the field.
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Right but its the amount of players that's not his fault. Therefore he can't really be held accountable for that.
 
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